Why should you take the 2016 Presidential election seriously?

UncleBuck

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Vote for Hillary or join the list of death.

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was togo public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruleda suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotelroom in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his WashingtonDC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD

35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds

37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley

38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel

39 – Major General William Robertson

40 – Col. William Densberger

41 – Col. Robert Kelly

42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes

43 – Steve Willis

44 – Robert Williams

45 – Conway LeBleu

46 – Todd McKeehan

06/26/2016 Updated:

47 - John Ashe - Ashe, 61, died of injuries while lifting a barbell on a bench, the Westchester, New York, medical examiner's office [said]. Earlier U.N. spokesman Dan Thomas told CNN that Ashe died of a heart attack. He now tells CNN that the information came from a newspaper report in Antiqua, as well as a former colleague of Ashe's. The medical examiner clarified Ashe died from traumatic asphyxia and suffered laryngeal fractures while lifting.

John Ashe was set to testify against Hillary Clinton.


https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4mes7q/here_is_a_list_of_all_the_clinton_associates_that/
pathetically desperate.

go monitor your hispanic neighbor's trash output.
 

GardenGnome83

Well-Known Member
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Lol, finally losing it. Well, the rest of it.
 

Fogdog

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I didn't say it was stolen, I said Clinton and the DNC cheated. If an investigation proved it didn't matter, I would accept it. If it proved it did, would you?
We both know that an investigation would happen only if there is evidence that some laws were broken. If laws were broken and Clinton is shown to be part of an unlawful conspiracy it wouldn't matter whether the act flipped the nomination by huge numbers toward Clinton. If she broke the law then she should be punished accordingly.

The election did not hinge on the DNC's collusion with the media. The numbers don't bear out any case for claiming Bernie actually should have won. Calling Hillary a cheater in this event is cringe-worthy.
 

Padawanbater2

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the media was far more negative against hillary than bernie.

you're normally a facts guy, i'd love to see you return.
Did anyone in the Sanders campaign direct members of the media to push pro-Sanders and anti-Clinton narratives, or have direct access to a major networks president?
We both know that an investigation would happen only if there is evidence that some laws were broken. If laws were broken and Clinton is shown to be part of an unlawful conspiracy it wouldn't matter whether the act flipped the nomination by huge numbers toward Clinton. If she broke the law then she should be punished accordingly.

The election did not hinge on the DNC's collusion with the media. The numbers don't bear out any case for claiming Bernie actually should have won. Calling Hillary a cheater in this event is cringe-worthy.
I've already cited the rules in the DNC Bylaws, both the DNC and the Clinton campaign broke the rules to give Clinton an advantage. That's the textbook definition of cheating. The Clinton campaign also colluded with members of the media, I was under the assumption that was illegal, but if charges haven't been brought about that at this point, I doubt it is since those emails are available, and in this fucked up country it wouldn't surprise me.

To claim she won fair and square is cringeworthy
 

Fogdog

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Did anyone in the Sanders campaign direct members of the media to push pro-Sanders and anti-Clinton narratives, or have direct access to a major networks president?

I've already cited the rules in the DNC Bylaws, both the DNC and the Clinton campaign broke the rules to give Clinton an advantage. That's the textbook definition of cheating. The Clinton campaign also colluded with members of the media, I was under the assumption that was illegal, but if charges haven't been brought about that at this point, I doubt it is since those emails are available, and in this fucked up country it wouldn't surprise me.

To claim she won fair and square is cringeworthy
Its right there in your whinge about "this fucked up country". Regret to inform you that reality doesn't live up to your expectations. People do awful things. They go past the rules in order to win. It really sucks. Bernie didn't run exactly a squeaky clean campaign himself.

What's really important is that 3.5 million more people voted for Hillary because they thought she was the best choice. If you had your way you would disenfranchise them.
 

Fogdog

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Btw, Hillary cheated, and she has a trail of bodies following her...
yeah and benghazi too.

What is is with you guys? Do you really think that the DNC's actions means Hillary cheated? Is there a clear connection of a conspiracy between Hillary and the DNC? Bernie lost. Whinge away but Bernie lost because 31% more people voted for Hillary. Are you so arrogant as to believe that you are immune to media manipulations and 16 million others aren't?

Oh dead bodies. The next big right wing slime campaign. Not immune to media drumming are you?
 

BustinScales510

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Did anyone in the Sanders campaign direct members of the media to push pro-Sanders and anti-Clinton narratives, or have direct access to a major networks president?
Im assuming that there are more incriminating emails than that,right? Because that one that you linked shows that Joe scarborough and Mika Brzezinski put DWS on blast and accused her of rigging the election and demanding she resign, to which her response was to tell chuck todd to have them stop. That shows that she is thin skinned but I didnt see her telling them what they should be saying.

I havent read the emails so Im not saying there arent worse but that one seemed thin for backing up your assertions
 

Padawanbater2

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Its right there in your whinge about "this fucked up country". Regret to inform you that reality doesn't live up to your expectations. People do awful things. They go past the rules in order to win. It really sucks. Bernie didn't run exactly a squeaky clean campaign himself.

What's really important is that 3.5 million more people voted for Hillary because they thought she was the best choice. If you had your way you would disenfranchise them.
You're supporting disenfranchising the ~13 million who voted for Sanders. I told you I want an investigation so that an independent party can decide whether or not what the DNC and Clinton campaign did affected the results of the election

 

Fogdog

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You're supporting disenfranchising the ~13 million who voted for Sanders. I told you I want an investigation so that an independent party can decide whether or not what the DNC and Clinton campaign did affected the results of the election

Bernie lost. By a lot. It happens sometimes that you vote for somebody and they lose. It happened to me too. It wasn't even close.
 

Padawanbater2

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What is is with you guys? Do you really think that the DNC's actions means Hillary cheated? Is there a clear connection of a conspiracy between Hillary and the DNC?
DWS worked for Clinton in 2008, was appointed chair of the DNC in 2011, cheated and manipulated the 2016 democratic primary to ensure Clinton won, resigned as chair in disgrace, then the same day, Clinton rehires her to her campaign..

You can't be this naive, it's simply not possible
 

Padawanbater2

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Bernie lost. By a lot. It happens sometimes that you vote for somebody and they lose. It happened to me too. It wasn't even close.
If he lost under fair conditions as mandated by the DNC Bylaws, I would agree with you

I bet if I had an 800m head start in our mile race, it wouldn't be very close either

And if the DNC pulled the same shit to get Sanders elected, I would have the same problem with it. I don't want an organization who believes it knows better than I do control my vote, that's not democracy, that's oligarchy and corruption
 

Padawanbater2

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Im assuming that there are more incriminating emails than that,right? Because that one that you linked shows that Joe scarborough and Mika Brzezinski put DWS on blast and accused her of rigging the election and demanding she resign, to which her response was to tell chuck todd to have them stop. That shows that she is thin skinned but I didnt see her telling them what they should be saying.

I havent read the emails so Im not saying there arent worse but that one seemed thin for backing up your assertions
I suppose you wouldn't take issue with members of the republican party directing the FOX News narrative, either, right?
 

GardenGnome83

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yeah and benghazi too.

What is is with you guys? Do you really think that the DNC's actions means Hillary cheated? Is there a clear connection of a conspiracy between Hillary and the DNC? Bernie lost. Whinge away but Bernie lost because 31% more people voted for Hillary. Are you so arrogant as to believe that you are immune to media manipulations and 16 million others aren't?

Oh dead bodies. The next big right wing slime campaign. Not immune to media drumming are you?
Lol, it's not just media. Quite the coincidence, all those people, that close to you...
And the more recent ones, what about those? About to testify, then they die.
 

BustinScales510

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I suppose you wouldn't take issue with members of the republican party directing the FOX News narrative, either, right?
I assume that they do, 10x more than anything in those DNC emails. I dont watch fox often but Ive never seen dissent towards the republican party on there. As far as taking issue with it, not really..I feel indifferently about it.
 

Padawanbater2

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I assume that they do, 10x more than anything in those DNC emails. I dont watch fox often but Ive never seen dissent towards the republican party on there. As far as taking issue with it, not really..I feel indifferently about it.
If you don't see any problem with it then there's no point in discussing this with you any further

A real progressive would never support government sponsored propaganda, or feel "indifferent" about it

Government sponsored propaganda got us into the Iraq war, something Hillary Clinton supported
 
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