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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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churchhaze said:
There's a reason you won't switch from HPS to T5 and it's not because I confused you. You know very well that HPS is a better light and that spending more money up front for a light with higher overhead costs would be foolish.

Don't get an attitude with me. It's very clear that you're just trying to argue in general because otherwise what you've been saying has mostly been in agreement with what I've been posting. (you're just argumentative in general and can't agree with anything)

There are people trying to confuse you... and it's not me. Again, quit listening to these T5 fools.[/QUOTE

You didn't confuse me. I meant back when I got started. My tone may be in response to the general tone around here but even though you are on a side that doesn't really apply to lighting application you gave me helpful info.

But the best lighting is chosen for each individual situation and there are always tons of variables that apply to the decision. And of course what we like comes into play too.

I love my dual HPS set up. Looks cool too.
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slapmehard

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And who said you can't be too smart?
there is NO one type of light that's good for everyone or place
damn I am sorry to even join this forum with all the bullshit fighting around here what is it a 19 year old or younger forum?
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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churchhaze said:
There's a reason you won't switch from HPS to T5 and it's not because I confused you. You know very well that HPS is a better light and that spending more money up front for a light with higher overhead costs would be foolish.

Don't get an attitude with me. It's very clear that you're just trying to argue in general because otherwise what you've been saying has mostly been in agreement with what I've been posting. (you're just argumentative in general and can't agree with anything)

There are people trying to confuse you... and it's not me. Again, quit listening to these T5 fools.
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Lol.

Care to post your buds up against some t5 bud? No? Why is that?
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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churchhaze said:
I don't care if pointing out your T5 nonsense makes me an asshat. Sell your cobs and grow with T5 if they're so good.
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No one is saying that. Fuck just go on somewhere.

I said mixed spectrum is better. I don't care how you get it.

The fact of the matter is that t5 can grow weed just fine. Grows a damn good product.

My t5 cost $20 a month to run. $100 to buy with bulbs included and I've only bought one set of bulb in a year. Not that expensive.

I think ttystick got it right. I think you are butt hurt that there are guys throwing down better product than you with a lesser light.
 
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churchhaze

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whitebb2727 said:
No one is saying that dummy. Fuck just go on somewhere.

I said mixed spectrum is better. I don't care how you get it.

The fact of the matter is that t5 can grow weed just fine. Grows a damn good product.

My t5 cost $20 a month to run. $100 to buy with bulbs included and I've only bought one set of bulb in a year. Not that expensive.

I think ttystick got it right. I think you are butt hurt that there are guys throwing down better product than you with a lesser light.
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There are people growing better weed than me obviously, but it's not you or ttystick. I'm not butthurt because some guys on the internet claim their weed is better than mine. Yeah right.

You should really consider upgrading to HPS. Your stubbornness is really causing you to miss out.
 
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churchhaze

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MichiganMedGrower said:
But the best lighting is chosen for each individual situation and there are always tons of variables that apply to the decision. And of course what we like comes into play too.
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Never T5.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/smashing-fluorescent-lamps.864130/

There's never a time when you want to spend more to buy a less efficient lamp. (~25%) What's going to be the big next fad? Are we going back to candles? Fireflies in a jar?

T5 calculations:
octron analysis.jpg

Gavita calculations:
Philips Master GreenPower analysis.jpg

That's the most efficient T5HO I've found so far up against Philips master greenpower..

27.4% vs 38.1% radiant efficiency? No contest unless your goal is to have the highest electricity bill and the largest impact on the environment.
 
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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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I'm not for or against any light system. I just started with HPS for flowering. So I scaled up from there. I had mentioned I use Hortilux Super HPS 600's so maybe some of what full spectrum lighting seems to have is in there but I have seen quality from both.

image.jpeg For this room I seem to be giving the plants what they need I think. It is as much about everything else.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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churchhaze said:
Never T5.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/smashing-fluorescent-lamps.864130/

There's never a time when you want to spend more to buy a less efficient lamp. (~25%) What's going to be the big next fad? Are we going back to candles? Fireflies in a jar?

T5 calculations:
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Gavita calculations:
View attachment 3745293

That's the most efficient T5HO I've found so far up against Philips master greenpower..
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thanks for finding that. Don't know what happened.

I didn't know we were only talking about electrical efficiency.

I wouldn't put my blockbuster hood in a 4x4 tent like when I was new again. Seemed like it would fit and I did pretty well with it for a couple of years.

But the huge heavy thing was anything but efficient for me to use crammed in there with the carbon filter and everything.

Always lots of things to think about in a growroom set up.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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churchhaze said:
Never T5.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/smashing-fluorescent-lamps.864130/

There's never a time when you want to spend more to buy a less efficient lamp. (~25%) What's going to be the big next fad? Are we going back to candles? Fireflies in a jar?

T5 calculations:
View attachment 3745289

Gavita calculations:
View attachment 3745293

That's the most efficient T5HO I've found so far up against Philips master greenpower..

27.4% vs 38.1% radiant efficiency? No contest unless your goal is to have the highest electricity bill and the largest impact on the environment.
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Charts aren't everything. Like I said, my t5 and the bulbs that came with it are about the same as a cheap hid 400 setup with open hood. Now I would have to pay extra for gavita bulbs.

Cost me $20 a month to run my t5. And one set of bulbs that cost me around $50 in a years time.

I don't see how I'm missing out. I have plenty to smoke.

Feel free to post your pics and shame us all in the t5 section.
 
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churchhaze

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whitebb2727 said:
Feel free to post your pics and shame us all in the t5 section.
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You've already seen pictures of me destroying your yield. You're gonna choke on your words when I do finally get to post more pictures publicly.

The reality is that you're just in denial about your T5 and don't want to grow as a grower. You're in so much denial that you think T5 has redeeming qualities.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Budgoro88 said:
Yea all reality I could prob eliminate the t5 but I use that more to correct the hps so I can see the natural colors more to look for pests and leave symptoms led and hps increased my yield probably 50 %
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I miss the natural light. I used to have a blue on one side.

And the argument will go on but I got more growth and more potency from the Super HPS as long as the watts were the same.
 
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