The common question gets to the bottom of some of the central problems in drug policy.

jafro daweedhound

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Is cannabis really getting stronger?
The common question gets to the bottom of some of the central problems in drug policy.

Cannabis continues to be the world’s favourite illicit drug with around 147m people using it annually. However, there are fears that the drug is becoming increasingly potent and that it could pose a public health risk. But how reliable is the evidence? And is it really getting stronger?

The debate about cannabis potency and harm is long running. In the UK, where there are 2m annual users, it predates the 2004 downgrading of cannabis classification from class B to class C. But this episode demonstrated some of the issues with estimating the harms of the drug. Research conducted at the time highlighted how the relative harms of cannabis compared with other class B substances was one of the factors behind the decision to reclassify. However, critics accused the government of ignoring emerging evidence that cannabis was becoming more potent and that it represented a serious public health problem.

Those more sympathetic to the change in classification questioned whether this interpretation of cannabis potency was accurate, highlighting how an alternative conclusion had been drawn from published research which suggested only modest changes in cannabis potency over the 20 to 30 years prior to 2004.

Others, meanwhile, questioned the relevance of potency evidence, pointing to a shortage of studies looking at the consumption of cannabis in a natural setting and how users may well be smoking higher strength strains, but that they could be “titrating” their doses as a consequence, for example, by taking smaller puffs.

The debate over potency is not helped by politicians referring to the “lethal quality” of today’s cannabis and although the evidence is inconclusive, there is widespread acceptance that strains of cannabis are stronger than in previous decades.

To date, most assessments of cannabis potency have focused on increasing levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). But this doesn’t provide the full story. Cannabis contains hundreds of compounds, some of which interact with each other. For example, THC helps the user get high, but another compound, cannabidiol (CBD), can counter this by reducing unpleasant feelings such as anxiety. So it is the balance between THC and CBD over time that is important.

It would seem that many cannabis producers have competed to incrementally increase THC levels while selectively breeding out the more protective cannabinoids. Seizures from the US Drug Enforcement Administration show how this ratio has changed in America over the last 20 years.


CBD / THC ratio over time. ElSohly et al 2016
This changing ratio was helped in the UK by the introduction of hydroponic techniques in the 1980s for cultivating cannabis.

Proxy problems
Proxy measures of cannabis potency such as those based on home seizures of cannabis are widely used and quoted. But we don’t know if the cannabis seized is a representative sample of the cannabis in circulation. Steve Rolles, senior policy analyst for Transform Drug Policy Foundation, describes it as “a massive data hole”.

Also, the quality and sophistication of the cannabis testing procedures, such as chromatography, used to analyse seizures has improved over recent decades. But this means seminal and widely quoted research is outdated and less relevant.

Another factor to consider is how much cannabis is consumed in the average joint. A recent analysis of over 10,000 cannabis transactions carried out in the US between 2000 and 2010, estimated that the average joint contains 0.3g. This is significantly lower than the previous estimates of 0.75 to 1g.

Other factors that influence the strength of the hit are how deeply you inhale and how long you hold the smoke in your lungs.

The method used to ingest the drug also influences a user’s experience, such as eating, vaping or smoking. Dose can be increased by using a bong whereby a greater quantity of the drug is inhaled in one go compared to a single hit on a joint. Higher potency concentrates known as “dabs” have the potential to alter the level of intoxication .

Research gathered from a subset of cannabis users creates ill informed policy, threatening the credibility of public health messages.

Why any of this matters
Without any quality assurance system such as the one recently introduced at a festival, it is likely that younger users – who haven’t been using cannabis for long – are the most vulnerable to variations in cannabis potency.

There are public health implications. Cannabis users have to rely on their own knowledge when deciding on the dosage to achieve the desired high. A regulated market such as the one in Colorado could mean users are able to make better decisions and, in turn, reduce the rate of people needing treatment services where cannabis is the primary problem .

The government should regulate cannabis products to make them safer, enabling consumers to make more informed choices. It should create opportunities for targeted education and harm reduction, and employ other evidence-based health interventions.

The science underpinning the cannabis potency story is problematic. With so many people using cannabis, it can’t be acceptable to continue with a system where basic information about this product’s strength and purity are obscure. It is time for a national survey of cannabis that not only provides information about the strength of cannabis but how exactly it is consumed, too.



Ian Hamilton, Lecturer in Mental Health, University of York and Mark Monaghan, Lecturer in Crimimology and Social Policy, Loughborough University

This article was originally published on The Conversation. Read the original article.
 

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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ok even some of this is hogwash..they use the scary and scientific word HYDROPONICS<--- to scare people..

hydroponics does not increase potency..its only a growing method..

normally they use the word CHEMICALSn to scare people....when fertilizer would be more accurate and illuminating

and remember that the UK loves to use the word SKUNK..as if its some sort of alien race of cannabis

...sheeesh
 

Drowning-Man

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Weeds gotten stronger through selective genetics. Weed from the seventys only had like 5-10% THC. But nutrition and climate can take a part.
 

gb123

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Its all becoming the same ole run of the mill actually. Finding strong good tasting strains is nearly impossible...and there are many who do not understand this as they just don't know any better....

The days of chemo, hash plant and good ole red haired sensi gum are far gone Im sorry to say!
 

jafro daweedhound

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Oh and one more thing INVADE CANADA!!! ;)
You say that now, but wait till it is -40 outside. We have to put fur coats on our plants or they wont last the winter - even inside. Fuel up here is over $1 a liter, with the exchange rate and converted to gallons that is about $285.oo US a gallon. But hey if you are coming hurry up cause I think Trump is planning on building a wall to keep all our snow from drifting down that way.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Why any of this matters
Without any quality assurance system such as the one recently introduced at a festival, it is likely that younger users – who haven’t been using cannabis for long – are the most vulnerable to variations in cannabis potency.
Which young festival goers are going to be sold cannabis and what is the ACTUAL HARM? They had a beer garden going on all weekend in Comox, any chance they can explain how selling a killer drug at a family event is somehow less harmful than a teenager getting wasted on some top-shelf?
 

Drowning-Man

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You say that now, but wait till it is -40 outside. We have to put fur coats on our plants or they wont last the winter - even inside. Fuel up here is over $1 a liter, with the exchange rate and converted to gallons that is about $285.oo US a gallon. But hey if you are coming hurry up cause I think Trump is planning on building a wall to keep all our snow from drifting down that way.
Gas here in Texas is $1.83 a gallon but were I live its between 95-103F with 50-90% humidity. It's fucking horrible. I use to live in Illinois in the dead of winter its between -20-0F. And summer was between 90-95 with 0% humidity I fucking loved it. I'd love to live somewhere like Canada. If it wasn't for the Brits sending my people to the swamps of Louisiana I probably woulda been born Canadian. You guys are awesome. Y'all know anything about hot sauce tho? ;)
 

TheRealDman

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Its all becoming the same ole run of the mill actually. Finding strong good tasting strains is nearly impossible...and there are many who do not understand this as they just don't know any better....

The days of chemo, hash plant and good ole red haired sensi gum are far gone Im sorry to say!
Yep, a whole generation raised on Kush (insert phenotype here) & Cookies (insert phenotype here)....is sad, but some folks have made it their passion to acquire/preserve some very fine heirloom genetics. They're out there if you know where to look. ;)
 

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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Weeds gotten stronger through selective genetics. Weed from the seventys only had like 5-10% THC. But nutrition and climate can take a part.
it may seem like that but i have several from origin afghanis that are as good as anything "selected"

plus the 70' thai and viets would eat these frosty hight] thc[it ain't everything]indicas for breakfast


its mood altering qualities of the thc that is potency

but yes selection has helped a pile
 

nobody important 666

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Not
it may seem like that but i have several from origin afghanis that are as good as anything "selected"

plus the 70' thai and viets would eat these frosty hight] thc[it ain't everything]indicas for breakfast


its mood altering qualities of the thc that is potency

but yes selection has helped a pile
To mention that we figured out sticks , seeds and leaves dont have the thc values and have removed them which increases the over all count.
 

jafro daweedhound

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They're out there if you know where to look
It is like many enjoyable things; old cars, antiques, vinyl records, ect. There are some true cognisors that know what they have and preserve them as heirlooms. Occasionally we get to enjoy them too. But sadly commercial sells - some names are "cooler" than others.
 

gb123

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Yep, a whole generation raised on Kush (insert phenotype here) & Cookies (insert phenotype here)....is sad, but some folks have made it their passion to acquire/preserve some very fine heirloom genetics. They're out there if you know where to look. ;)
We held onto the chemo and hash plant for 20 years only to see it die a miserable death... :(
I didnt say it was impossible, just not easy is all. Was just pointing out that not many strains remain. Even JA screwed themselves over by using seeds from around the globe..You can still find some old timers growing sweet sensi, although that's not easy either.
 

doingdishes

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i remember Thai stick from the mid 80's and 2 tokes you were wrecked. are they saying that got stronger??
first time i smoked purple indica-no kush back then-people stopped smoking but i didn't feel it so I kept on. i finished and then about 10 minutes later someone spoke...scared the shit out of me because i forgot there were other people in the room.
i haven't seen that quality in years so how again is it getting stronger?? or did my tolerance get that much more??
there was powerhouse stuff back then so are they only talking home grow stuff? i remember all that stuff being pretty crappy.
 

Gquebed

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Where are they getting this massive increase in potency from?

I remember smoking weed with seeds when i first started in the late 70s early 80s. Then came "sensi red hair". Thebonly difference was that it was grown indoor and had no seeds. Noticed a big jump in potency, but after that....???

I dunno... not really...

Have run accross the odd strain that has been outstanding, but for the most part the potency jas been pretty much the same or maybe a little better. But not much. And i have had periods over the decades where indidnt smoke for months or a couple years.

To me, not much has changed. Just a lot if new names...
 

TheRealDman

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Where are they getting this massive increase in potency from?

I remember smoking weed with seeds when i first started in the late 70s early 80s. Then came "sensi red hair". Thebonly difference was that it was grown indoor and had no seeds. Noticed a big jump in potency, but after that....???

I dunno... not really...

Have run accross the odd strain that has been outstanding, but for the most part the potency jas been pretty much the same or maybe a little better. But not much. And i have had periods over the decades where indidnt smoke for months or a couple years.

To me, not much has changed. Just a lot if new names...
The sensi red hair, aka....the first hydroponic growers. :)
 

torontoke

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The massive increase comes from the fact that they were testing the brown dirty stick weed that was 20%stick20%seed20%leaf20%bud and 20% smugglers ass lint.
Now they are getting it closer to the source and the numbers are easy to bump when the motives align.
Sort of like the 20%+ lp bud that grandma laughs at.
 
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