Defoliation question

Afgan King

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Remember next surgery you go pick that new kid who was head of his class over the guy whos been doing it for 10 years
 

Dumme

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Like I said, I'm not gonna measure dick size. Trust that I have plenty of experience.

Are you not willing to answer some questions?
 

Afgan King

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And what are your questions because if you want anecdotal evidence there won't be any. Cannabis has only been grown on such a large scale for less than a decade and with federal bans there is no true testing. But I can give you more field experience and commercial experience than a lot of people. Personal grows are cool but when you have a 5,000 plant count some real experimenting on how to grow comes into play
 

purplehays1

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QQuite a few lower buds are shaded from all these leaves should.I trim a few leaves to let more light down? And maybe tiee down the top 2 colas to be.more inline with the other two colas? Here is the girl in questionView attachment 3745811 View attachment 3745812
That plant doesnt need to be defoliated IMO. Defoliation is best used when you have a very very dense canopy and overlapping leaves. I would use a string or something and pull the top colas over to the sides (LST) away from each other. This will allow more light to the lower portions.
 

Dumme

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And what are your questions because if you want anecdotal evidence there won't be any. Cannabis has only been grown on such a large scale for less than a decade and with federal bans there is no true testing. But I can give you more field experience and commercial experience than a lot of people. Personal grows are cool but when you have a 5,000 plant count some real experimenting on how to grow comes into play
Sure sure...

Ok, Ill start off very basic and work up, ok? They'll get harder as I ask more. Agreed?
 

Lucky Luke

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Funny I've been growing plants in general since the 90's have a father who taught botany, horticulture, and biology. But your right I have no idea of shit cuz you say so lol funny tho I'm paid to teach people to grow what about you?
Me? semi retired at 40 years old. Small horticulture business (if you read what people wrote you would of caught on to that) and a Commercial cleaning business for beer money. Grew up on and around farms and live in a farming community. A community that has been legally growing Poppies and Cannabis (non THC) version for decades.
But you yell, holla and insult all you like. Everybody knows you cannot quote the SCIENCE because its not there. Your a preacher asking us to belive in a GOD with no proof he exists.

If you yell and insult enough we wont see you not posting science? Cmon.. Debate is great, its how we learn and find out new things. Insults just prove you lost the debate ages ago. Yelling is the last resort before punchers are thrown.
 

Afgan King

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Like I said, I'm not gonna measure dick size. Trust that I have plenty of experience.

Are you not willing to answer some questions?
Question how am I measuring dick size? You can read a book all you wanr you can grow whatever plant you want but if your aren't directly doing it with cannabis then your argument is null and void. I grow alot of poinsettias but that has jack to do with cannabis
 

Afgan King

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Me? semi retired at 40 years old. Small horticulture business (if you read what people wrote you would of caught on to that) and a Commercial cleaning business for beer money. Grew up on and around farms and live in a farming community. A community that has been legally growing Poppies and Cannabis (non THC) version for decades.
But you yell, holla and insult all you like. Everybody knows you cannot quote the SCIENCE because its not there. Your a preacher asking us to belive in a GOD with no proof he exists.

If you yell and insult enough we wont see you not posting science? Cmon.. Debate is great, its how we learn and find out new things. Insults just prove you lost the debate ages ago. Yelling is the last resort before punchers are thrown.
So your growing experience is outdoors? This argument isn't for u again we're indoors
 

Afgan King

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Me? semi retired at 40 years old. Small horticulture business (if you read what people wrote you would of caught on to that) and a Commercial cleaning business for beer money. Grew up on and around farms and live in a farming community. A community that has been legally growing Poppies and Cannabis (non THC) version for decades.
But you yell, holla and insult all you like. Everybody knows you cannot quote the SCIENCE because its not there. Your a preacher asking us to belive in a GOD with no proof he exists.

If you yell and insult enough we wont see you not posting science? Cmon.. Debate is great, its how we learn and find out new things. Insults just prove you lost the debate ages ago. Yelling is the last resort before punchers are thrown.
That's cool I was a main grower for craft concentrates till I left I took on my own business as well for agricultural consulting but good for u
 

Dumme

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Question how am I measuring dick size? You can read a book all you wanr you can grow whatever plant you want but if your aren't directly doing it with cannabis then your argument is null and void. I grow alot of poinsettias but that has jack to do with cannabis
Where do raw nutrients travel (in all plants), after entering the roots, and how do they get there?.

...very basic
 

In Shape Vet

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alright heres a new sample from the defoliated lady. this is from a lower branch but the whole plant was defoliated and then tied down flat so all the buds where more or less even in height so light could be lowered to " almost ground level " if the tote lid was the ground. sample 2 2.jpg sample 2 3.jpg sample 2 4.jpg sample 2 5.jpg sample 2 6.jpg sample 2 7.jpg sample 2.jpg
 

Afgan King

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Lmao again I guess age means you have to be right holy shit no way anyone younger could ever come up with something better than an old man your completely right no way
 

Afgan King

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Where do raw nutrients travel (in all plants), after entering the roots, and how do they get there?.

...very basic
Outside of the stem it's why there's the old technique of scraping the stem at the end towards harvest to stop nutrient uptake but keep water uptake
 

Afgan King

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alright heres a new sample from the defoliated lady. this is from a lower branch but the whole plant was defoliated and then tied down flat so all the buds where more or less even in height so light could be lowered to " almost ground level " if the tote lid was the ground. View attachment 3747912 View attachment 3747913 View attachment 3747914 View attachment 3747915 View attachment 3747916 View attachment 3747917 View attachment 3747918
Could of kept going lot of clear and cloudy trichs
 

purplehays1

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If you bought a house would you remove solar panels to look at the roof?
And then complain because your power bills went up?


Leaves are solar panels.
While this is a controversial opinion that many will refute i have found that bud sites produce better weed when they receive light. This is counter intuitive because as many will say photosynthesis relies on leaves to gather light, not buds, so why do bud sites need light? My opinion on the matter is that plants only give resources to the buds they feel are most viable, the ones getting light, thus they use the energy they have to make these sites produce. So while the leaves may be necessary to produce the energy for the plant as solar panels they are not the deciding factor as to bud development. We use high powered lights and nutrient plans that allow a plant a much easier life than it is naturally expecting, this changes its needs and makes a plant need these large fan leaves much less than they would in nature. I think that our plants receive adequate energy from the lights even when these leaves are removed they just use that energy to produce buds throughout the plant not just at the tops leading to a more consistent quality of yield.
 
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