EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Fogdog

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None of that is true about me.

Not a walmart shopper.

Don't get foodstamps or any government welfare anymore.

I don't defend racism.

You are a troll that is only here to provide conflict. That is why you threaten, bully, and slander.

Spawn of Hillary, Begone!
You are voting for a man who is racist and bigoted. Is it fair to judge a person by their actions?
 

Fogdog

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That's just like, your opinion man.
There is plenty of information out there documenting Trumps racist actions. It is verified, which makes the label of racism factual. And so, you must know that the person you vote for is racist. If you don't care, then that makes you one too.
 

Unclebaldrick

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There is plenty of information out there documenting Trumps racist actions. It is verified, which makes the label of racism factual. And so, you must know that the person you vote for is racist. If you don't care, then that makes you one too.
Racism is a relative term. Not everybody will see TRUMP! as one.:roll:
 

Fogdog

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Racism is a relative term. Not everybody will see TRUMP! as one.:roll:
You are right. However, Trump's racist actions are well documented. This isn't a case of some quiet bias. The man has been overt about it. In order to not see Trumps racism you'd have to overlook it. If that isn't racism, tell me what that is?
 

Unclebaldrick

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You are right. However, Trump's racist actions are well documented. This isn't a case of some quiet bias. The man has been overt about it. In order to not see Trumps racism you'd have to overlook it. If that isn't racism, tell me what that is?
Oh I know. But, like, David Duke would not see it that way. Nor apparently do some others.
 

Flaming Pie

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There is plenty of information out there documenting Trumps racist actions. It is verified, which makes the label of racism factual. And so, you must know that the person you vote for is racist. If you don't care, then that makes you one too.
I have said time and again that I believe hillary to be racist and an evil woman.

I will never cast a vote for hillary.
 

UncleBuck

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I have said time and again that I believe hillary to be racist and an evil woman.

I will never cast a vote for hillary.
yet you have no evidence for it, and no rebuttal to the mountain of evidence showing that trump is a racist demagogue and fascist.

for the record, "NUH UH!" does not count as a rebuttal.
 

Flaming Pie

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yet you have no evidence for it, and no rebuttal to the mountain of evidence showing that trump is a racist demagogue and fascist.

for the record, "NUH UH!" does not count as a rebuttal.
I have posted plenty in my thread. I know you would love for me to spend all night stroking your micro epenis by copying and pasting links on my phone for an hour.

Stroke your own e penis.

In other words...
 

UncleBuck

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I have posted plenty in my thread.
no you haven't.

if there were "plenty" of evidence, you could ratle off two or three things right away.

or, you could simply point to post numbers.

instead, you use some lame excuse about how hard it is for you to copy and paste stuff from your phone.

you are pathetic. go google about how the holocaust was fake now.
 

ttystikk

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Who put it there? We are humans. We do shit. The system is strong and strives to be great in spite of us. Call it what you will.

We are still on the same side.
The way our government has operated has fundamentally changed in my lifetime. Influence was always present, but it was outlawed, hidden- and when found, punished. This hostile atmosphere marginalized its influence on daily affairs.

Today, none of these things happen to the oligarchs. The donor class is free to anonymously dump unlimited sums into our political system, swamping grassroots efforts like Mr Sanders' famous $27 average.

@Unclebaldrick you've made a basic mistake in judgement about the consequences of such open vote tampering and suppression of citizen participation; what's going on now is the 'in your face' endgame, not the beginning.

We the People have been told to our noses that our say doesn't matter.

As this point, we cannot say the society we live in is a democracy if the will of the majority is openly- and this part is essential, "OPENLY"- ignored or manipulated in favor of a powerful minority.

So dither and split all the semantic hairs you like. The truth is plain enough.

Do the American People collectively have the balls to hold our government accountable, or are we for sale to the highest bidder- to include foreign nations with cash and access to law firms and lobbyists?

THAT is the question before us. Most aren't even asking it.
 
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SneekyNinja

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The way our government has operated has fundamentally changed in my lifetime. Influence was always present, but it was outlawed, hidden- and when found, punished. This hostile atmosphere marginalized its influence on daily affairs.

Today, none of these things happen to the oligarchs. The donor class is free to anonymously dump unlimited sums into our political system, swamping grassroots efforts like Mr Sanders' famous $27 average.

@Unclebaldrick you've made a basic mistake in judgement about the consequences of such open vote tampering and suppression of citizen participation; what's going on now is the 'in your face' endgame, not the beginning.

We the People have been told to our noses that our say doesn't matter.

As this point, we cannot say the society we live in is a democracy if the will of the majority is openly- and this part is essential, "OPENLY"- ignored or manipulated in favor of a powerful minority.

So dither and split all the semantic hairs you like. The truth is plain enough.

Do the American People collectively have the balls to hold our government accountable, or are we for sale to the highest bidder- to include foreign nations with cash and access to law firms and lobbyists?

THAT is the question before us. Most aren't even asking it.
Sanders lost, by alot.

Your voice was heard, it just wasn't loudest.
 

ttystikk

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Sanders lost, by alot.

Your voice was heard, it just wasn't loudest.
That is your opinion, which is not supported by the facts.

Further, that there is real doubt is itself corrosive to the entire process. If no one trusts the same authority, we have a fundamental breakdown in the system.
 

SneekyNinja

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That is your opinion, which is not supported by the facts.

Further, that there is real doubt is itself corrosive to the entire process. If no one trusts the same authority, we have a fundamental breakdown in the system.
3.5 million votes say otherwise.

Try to stick to facts, like actual results ;)
 

ttystikk

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3.5 million votes say otherwise.

Try to stick to facts, like actual results ;)
But they were in many cases demonstrably NOT actual vote totals. And in many more cases, suspicious divergences appeared between exit polling results and reported results, a classic sign of vote tampering- and rather than follow that scandal, the media instead elected to stop taking exit polls altogether.

So I think I have ample grounds for questioning the veracity of any numbers you may have heard from 'official' sources.

Furthermore, that media maneuver is a very scary rabbit hole to contemplate and scarier still to confront. But we must, if we are to preserve our rights to be heard in our own country.
 
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SneekyNinja

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But they were in many cases demonstrably NOT actual vote totals. And in many more cases, suspicious divergences aspirated between exit polling results and reported results, a classic sign of cheating- and rather than follow that scandal, the media instead elected to stop taking exit polls altogether.

So I think I have ample grounds for questioning the veracity of any numbers you may have heard from 'official' sources.

Furthermore, that media maneuver is a very scary rabbit hole to contemplate and scarier still to confront. But we must, if we are to preserve our rights to be heard in our own country.
He lost, it's not a conspiracy, please stop crying about it.

Hillary got more votes in spite of whatever fuckery the DNC undertook.
 

schuylaar

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The way our government has operated has fundamentally changed in my lifetime. Influence was always present, but it was outlawed, hidden- and when found, punished. This hostile atmosphere marginalized its influence on daily affairs.

Today, none of these things happen to the oligarchs. The donor class is free to anonymously dump unlimited sums into our political system, swamping grassroots efforts like Mr Sanders' famous $27 average.

@Unclebaldrick you've made a basic mistake in judgement about the consequences of such open vote tampering and suppression of citizen participation; what's going on now is the 'in your face' endgame, not the beginning.

We the People have been told to our noses that our say doesn't matter.

As this point, we cannot say the society we live in is a democracy if the will of the majority is openly- and this part is essential, "OPENLY"- ignored or manipulated in favor of a powerful minority.

So dither and split all the semantic hairs you like. The truth is plain enough.

Do the American People collectively have the balls to hold our government accountable, or are we for sale to the highest bidder- to include foreign nations with cash and access to law firms and lobbyists?

THAT is the question before us. Most aren't even asking it.
We (US) are doing what we do best, Tty..our political system has evolved into one BIG reality TV show. Where outrageous rules and you are only a villain until the next episode and then redemption.

Where is OUR government to protect us?
 
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