RolllingStone
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What do you need to succeed in aeroponic
How come clone aero wilting
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Michael Huntherz
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Uhhh...pH about 5.5-5.8 and patience? The question is not clear to me. Are you asking how to have success doing aeroponic cloning, or how to grow an established clone aeroponically? Neither question is specific enough for anyone to provide helpful answers. Details, friend, we need them.
You might as well ask "airplane is crashy, how do I fly airplane?"
You might as well ask "airplane is crashy, how do I fly airplane?"
RolllingStone
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My ph is never stable it be 5.5 then goes to 6.3 next day
Im trying to succeed in this aeroponic clone thru flower
Looking for step to steps
Im trying to succeed in this aeroponic clone thru flower
Looking for step to steps
b4ds33d
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check out youtube. it's what the kids are doing these days.
RolllingStone
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i think it the humidity in my tent it in 30-40s it probably the reason why my clone are wilting
Michael Huntherz
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That's low RH, but I don't know why that should cause it, my clones survive that with no dome all the time. pH swing is normal.
Cuttings do not need, nor will they tolerate, a lot of light, so since they are in your tent I am going to guess your problem is too much light, and secondarily maybe too much heat. I see LED colors in your pic, LEDs are hella intense, meaning literal intensitiy, directly lighting cuttings with them will destroy your babies pretty fast.
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Dumme
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Tap water? That's because of the yoyo effect when an acid is introduced.
-acid goes in, and pH goes down
-as carbonates disolve, pH goes up
It's normal in hard water.
Your need to keep checking you Res over time. If you keep adjusting, the more you do it, the less and less carbonates there will be to disolve, and the acid will seem to get stronger, so add less each time or it will drop pH too fast.
RolllingStone
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No led light on em just t5
Yes tap water hard warter I ph my res back to 5.8 every 2 days it climb up fast
Dumme
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RolllingStone
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I guess i gotta get a Ro filter in the future
In Ro water would it be stable ph ?
In Ro water would it be stable ph ?
Dumme
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Yes, and with no carbonates, you'll use much less Acid.
RolllingStone
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Time to go RO filter hunting any suggestion on what brand filter to buy or affordable ones?
Dumme
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It depends on your goals. Every RO system can handle different amounts of water flow. Craigslist has used ones. Ebay, amazon... google is easy to use.
I don't use one as I utilize the Calcium within mine.
Michael Huntherz
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I also use tap water, the calcium is welcome, but also because I like to keep it simple. In my case I have not had any problems cloning when the pH swings like that. I usually start at 5.5 or so, and it goes up past 6 without any ill effects that I have seen, but maybe 6.3 is too high. What are your thoughts, @Dumme?
I just haven't seen those symptoms myself, so I am curious why that pH makes the kids wilt for some and not others? Or perhaps I am suffering a perception defect, that's always possible.
Dumme
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Well, each municipality has its own method of cleaning waste water. Each well tap has its own geographical filters. It really depends on how much carbonates your starting with.
Michael Huntherz
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I see, I don't recall my exact numbers offhand but the tds is pretty low overall, <125ppm, usually so that does make sense. I wish the water company posted EC data, hard to trust ppm, they don't list their conversion formula, either.
That video is pretty great, if I am not careful I might learn something!
Dumme
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I think you misinterpret how EC works when relating to a specific mix.
If you call your city's water works, they will direct you to a free water report. It's public knowledge, and must be provided free of charge
Michael Huntherz
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I have their report, I even know where my local well is, right around the corner. New quarterly data was pushed a week ago or so. I am actually pretty hip to public access data, I build software that consumes a lot of government API sevices. And you are probably right about my understanding of EC, but what I have read is that TDS measurements can be calculated in different ways but that EC was a more or less absolute measurement. Is that inaccurate or irrelevant? Thanks!
Dumme
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Yes and no. Yes, in the fact it measures the "Electrical Continuity" of the "Total Dissolved Solids". But.
It's only accurate to the specific solids within. You can calculate the ppm's if to have a "Key" formula (i.e. foxfarm uses a scale to which you follow)
If you don't know the formula and/or mix formula, it changes the scale used. The more mixes, the farther off the ppm's are.
Let me break it down..
If you mix a two part nutrient setup, and flow theor instructions perfectly, you'll know what you have accurately.
But..
Part "A" might have iron and no Calcium and Part "B" might have Calcium and no Iron. Iron has a higher EC than Calcium.
So it's only accurate if you follow their directions, so you don't throw off the numbers.
If you add Tap Water to the mix, you'll be doing quite a bit of math to figure out you ppms.
EC is easy to check and so better for most grower, but not more accurate.
PPM's are definitely better over all, just harder to measure accurately. Most growers can't afford, or don't know how to measure individual salts.
Michael Huntherz
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My instincts tend to follow your explanation, but I was too unsure to trust my gut understanding until now. Thanks a million.
really appreciate having the specifics, thank you for your efforts in explaining to a layperson.
My instincts tend to follow your explanation, but I was too unsure to trust my gut understanding until now. Thanks a million.