Need Help Coping with I.C. (Interstitial Cystitis)

[Olive Drab Green]

I do, but that's just it. I'm tired of being high literally all day long haha. Bad enough the condition makes it impossible to have much of an active lifestyle let alone being even buzzed all the time seems it's taking it's toll in the way of daily things. Like the usual, forgetful a lot. Don't get the munchies or none of that all too often no matter the strain. An I don't get a whole lot done being high without constantly being reminded all the time. My biggest worry or fear is like with any drug you'll have to take increasing amounts of it to get considerable relief which wouldn't be too much of a bother if I wasn't going to be getting a buzz from it all the time. I guess it would be nice to feel "normal" if possible without the high everyime. I just don't think THC alone is going to help is all, in a way too much, like sativa's make me feel anxious and worsen that feeling so I stick with indica and indica dominants mainly. Of course I could always go to a store to try more medical products before plunging in the time for medical strains. But that defeats the purpose really to me due to limited income and whether or not a certain strain or cannabinoid is the holy grail here per say, still doesn't mean I would have steady access to it. Anything medical is as much if not more then regular shelf and top shelf bud? I do see where your going though, I've got a handful or two of strains to trial and play with so that's not a problem for THC wise.

Then just keep smoking and let your tolerance build. That's what you'd do if you were taking medication for it.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

I do, but that's just it. I'm tired of being high literally all day long haha. Bad enough the condition makes it impossible to have much of an active lifestyle let alone being even buzzed all the time seems it's taking it's toll in the way of daily things.

Canna-Tsu has a neutral terpene profile. When chopped at 5-15% amber there is zero high/stone/inebriation, only positive effects. No sleepy.

After 30+ years of being high, it's like suddenly having a windshield at 85mph. Soooo nice. I'm medicated, pain and head in the right spot, zero issues getting in my way from the cannabis. Whole new world.

I have no idea what the CBG content is but I hear it's around 14:12 CBD:THC.

 

[pass the pipe]

Then just keep smoking and let your tolerance build. That's what you'd do if you were taking medication for it.

Just as the medication didn't work or worked to well in that case, same here, too much trial and error while trying to find an even balance. I do see where your pointing though as all cannabis is gonna get a slight different feeling in that regard at the least due to it's properties, I'd just rather not feel so affected by it immediately then maybe go for higher concentrations when/if needed.

Canna-Tsu has a neutral terpene profile. When chopped at 5-15% amber there is zero high/stone/inebriation, only positive effects. No sleepy.

After 30+ years of being high, it's like suddenly having a windshield at 85mph. Soooo nice. I'm medicated, pain and head in the right spot, zero issues getting in my way from the cannabis. Whole new world.

I have no idea what the CBG content is but I hear it's around 14:12 CBD:THC.

Sounds close in ratio to the painkiller xl I got going to try out. It's 1:1 I believe. Any recommendations when to harvest CBD strains at their prime and not necessarily for max thc output?

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Just as the medication didn't work or worked to well in that case, same here, too much trial and error while trying to find an even balance. I do see where your pointing though as all cannabis is gonna get a slight different feeling in that regard at the least due to it's properties, I'd just rather not feel so affected by it immediately then maybe go for higher concentrations when/if needed.

Sounds close in ratio to the painkiller xl I got going to try out. It's 1:1 I believe. Any recommendations when to harvest CBD strains at their prime and not necessarily for max thc output?

Harvest when ripe, 5-15% amber. Cut at 5, 10 and 15 percent with any new clone, so you know the exact time the next run.

Too early and you'll gyp yourself out of a full cannabinoid profile (including CBD). This leads to a short efficacy time, meaning you'll have to medicate more often, meaning you'll have to grow more.

Too late and you'll have the THC breaking down to CBN and causing a sleepy effect. Unless you want to sleep through life, avoid this.

Use a different strain, when 5,10 or 15% amber doesn't work for you with your current strain. You'll thank yourself in the long run.

Douglas

 

[Sir Stanky]

My wife does the botox injections, works well for her symptoms but lasts about six months before the symptoms show up again. We also do the edibles and she will eat before bedtime and that helps get her through the night without getting up to pee all the time.

Already done so on food choices, as it's a must. IC can and usually invlolves frequent urination sometimes up to 40 to 60 times a day. Such as in my case... Just got out the hospital Thursday and got given a choice to think about and hard..., Tibial Nerve Stimulation, "Medtronic" Bladder PaceMaker, Botox Injections directly into the bladder muscle, or complete bladder reconstruction/augmentation with part of my intestine as suggested by one doctor and two others recommended I try Botox first. Given the rather invasive and seriousness of my condition and that it's only worsened with time. Which has to me not surprisingly, stumped even quite a few of the doctors. I guess I forgot to mention in my original post, I have been diagnosed more then once now with a rather small max bladder capacity of only 150ml (4OZ) compared to a normal bladder holding average 16 ounces. No scar tissue though as far as I know. Almost four years later now and I still have yet to find a treatment option outside these options and given current studies on IC being limited compared to other diseases and conditions. Interstitial Cystitis is incurable and can only be treated with a treatment plan that may or may not work... An I've exhausted a lot of my options already.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/interstitial-cystitis/basics/symptoms/con-20022439

 

[pass the pipe]

Harvest when ripe, 5-15% amber. Cut at 5, 10 and 15 percent with any new clone, so you know the exact time the next run.

Too early and you'll gyp yourself out of a full cannabinoid profile (including CBD). This leads to a short efficacy time, meaning you'll have to medicate more often, meaning you'll have to grow more.

Too late and you'll have the THC breaking down to CBN and causing a sleepy effect. Unless you want to sleep through life, avoid this.

Use a different strain, when 5,10 or 15% amber doesn't work for you with your current strain. You'll thank yourself in the long run.

Douglas

Sounds like a plan, going to have to try some of these few strains out next round and play around with it.

My wife does the botox injections, works well for her symptoms but lasts about six months before the symptoms show up again. We also do the edibles and she will eat before bedtime and that helps get her through the night without getting up to pee all the time.

That's good to hear for her, I've noticed edibles are better for me to an extent pending on harvest window / strain similliar to what Douglas was stating that got turned into ghee/oil. Is it something that takes affect say a day later or more like a week to notice improvement?

 

[Sir Stanky]

Her botox treatment helped right away. She went from needing to go every 15-20 minutes or so to an hour or more pretty much as soon as the procedure was done. I believe she is on her second treatment.

 

[Blue brother]

I know for a fact that cannabutter made from barneys farm blue cheese works for this. Not sure what compounds are responisble but this strain works for this. Smoking it only sees a small effect and you'll probably fall asleep before it fully goes away but eating the butter works wonders.

I had a duplex kidney which had to be removed leaving me with one normal kidney, if I get dehydrated I get the worst cystitis ever, this cannabutter sorts it out. But the main thing is to stay hydrated all the time. Keep pissing, keep it clear, like vodka

 

[Aschutz]

I've had suffered a constant bladder pain along with the urge to go constantly for three going on four years now and have been on and off various medications for it. While none have even touched it for good, at first if they do work, the medications have caused me to go into retention or just a real struggle to go among other unpleasant side effects. Cannabis, I've noticed does help to a point, more for pain so and that's where I'm a bit stumped. Seeing how various studies have shown THC and CBD to possibly be of therapeutic value, and recently so has Cannabigerol (CBG) for MS symptoms including incontinence and frequency. My question is this, is there anyone here on the forums that has this or knows what strain or even consumption method would be ideal for IC sufferers? Also what I should be on the lookout for ratio wise, like 1:1 THC:CBD? Thanks.

I was misdiagnosed with IC for 8 years by my Urologist, when he retired Iwas finally told it was a nerve problem in my back and had a MRI which showed the problem. I went through many Dr Parson coctail instillations where you are Catheterized and force the Coctail into your bladder. I know what you mean about not feeling pain without being high. For what it's worth I found if you buy a vape where you can dial in the temperature (I have a Davinci Ascent) and start it at 340f or 350f and you get the vape you can't see but feel that relaxed my neither regions, yet does not get you too buzzed, even with gorilla glue which is supposed to be potent but the really high CBD strains didn't help much in pain dept. For some reason this did it for me, your results may be different. There are also charts you can find on the net that tell you what temp each Terpenoid boils off at and you can target (somewhat) the temp with your vape. You might want to investigate alternative routes of application, such as an innuendo. (Suppository) Sorry to hear you have that scourge.