Trump Nailed it!!!

SneekyNinja

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I find it totally preposterous. Trump is all about Trump. He is trying to win.

And BTW, 17 other candidates got rejected in the Republican party so it was not as if he snuck in...
Yeah but they couldve done the math that obviously a majority of Republicans are massive racists; so if Trump appealed to them exclusively he could essentially take the Republicans out of the race and have even important Republicans running to Hillary.

Why else would he say the retarded shit he says?
 

NLXSK1

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Yeah but they couldve done the math that obviously a majority of Republicans are massive racists; so if Trump appealed to them exclusively he could essentially take the Republicans out of the race and have even important Republicans running to Hillary.

Why else would he say the retarded shit he says?
80% of the retarded shit he says, he didnt say. It is stuff taken out of context, etc. The other 20% because he is misinformed. Hillary is out there lying her ass off, why does she tell blatant lies?

It is a literal 'he said' 'she said'

I dont focus on all that much. I dont want a continuation of Obama's failed economic policies and the only way to change that is to vote for Trump. No other choice unfortunately.
 

Fogdog

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I am not supporting Trump, and if you have been watching at Trumps Rally's there is plenty of hate there, as for your name calling it is very childish. Where did you see I support the hateful man? " I don't "
I liked your post, thought it appropriate and accurate. I should have been more clear in my post in that I was quoting you to a dunce and not calling you the dunce. Calling @NLXSK1 a dunce is not "name calling" it is an accurate description.

I didn't mean to say that you supported hateful Trump. This communication thing eludes me sometimes. :peace:
 

Fogdog

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80% of the retarded shit he says, he didnt say. It is stuff taken out of context, etc. The other 20% because he is misinformed. Hillary is out there lying her ass off, why does she tell blatant lies?

It is a literal 'he said' 'she said'

I dont focus on all that much. I dont want a continuation of Obama's failed economic policies and the only way to change that is to vote for Trump. No other choice unfortunately.
I know, you don't pay attention to anything other than the voices in your head. If you did pay attention to facts, you might actually say something factual. The fact is that Trump is by far the big liar and Hillary is by far the truth teller. And it's not literally a "he said, she said". The race has been one sided for Hillary because Trump is a poor leader and he demonstrates this fact ever day. Hillary has been running a formidable and well executed campaign. She's proving to be a good leader and her team has been very effective. Unlike the dumpster fire taking place in Trump's organization.



Trump's "floats all boats" economic theory is proven to be a failed experiment. Trump's economic ideology has produced nothing but ballooning debt and a continuation of erosion of economic status of the working class. Hillary is not a revolutionary leader in any way most definitely not so in terms of managing the economy. Still, leagues better than a dyed in the wool tax cut, spend more, run up the deficit type of philosophy espoused by The Donald.

The country is leagues better off from when Obama took office.
 

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NLXSK1

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I know, you don't pay attention to anything other than the voices in your head. If you did pay attention to facts, you might actually say something factual. The fact is that Trump is by far the big liar and Hillary is by far the truth teller. And it's not literally a "he said, she said". The race has been one sided for Hillary because Trump is a poor leader and he demonstrates this fact ever day. Hillary has been running a formidable and well executed campaign. She's proving to be a good leader and her team has been very effective. Unlike the dumpster fire taking place in Trump's organization.



Trump's "floats all boats" economic theory is proven to be a failed experiment. Trump's economic ideology has produced nothing but ballooning debt and a continuation of erosion of economic status of the working class. Hillary is not a revolutionary leader in any way most definitely not so in terms of managing the economy. Still, leagues better than a dyed in the wool tax cut, spend more, run up the deficit type of philosophy espoused by The Donald.

The country is leagues better off from when Obama took office.

All this proves technically is that Hillary is a better liar. So you are voting for the better liar for the white house... GG!!
 

UncleBuck

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All this proves technically is that Hillary is a better liar. So you are voting for the better liar for the white house... GG!!
no, that is not what it shows at all.

once again, you are wrong. but this is not surprising, since you are literally always wrong about everything.

for example, see the title of this thread. trump nailed it so hard, that it was the first time ever that more people became less likely to vote for him because of his convention than more likely to vote for him, and by a massive margin. 36-51. first time in history.

this is why i continue to call you an unremitting failure, and you never disappoint.
 

Fogdog

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All this proves technically is that Hillary is a better liar. So you are voting for the better liar for the white house... GG!!
Again, facts are verifiable. They aren't truthy-sort-of-sound-like facts that you issue in broad statement. Facts are verifiable as such and won't change from day to day like a lie can.

Which the Donald does as well. He lies then changes his lie depending on the day. Lies are much more convenient for the inept than facts. Because facts prove Donald has failed many times and left other people holding the bag to the tune of Billions of dollars. Why do you trust somebody that lies so much?

Why does The Donald need to lie so much? Maybe because he can't win if he tells the truth.

A different day, a different Donald.
 

NLXSK1

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Again, facts are verifiable. They aren't truthy-sort-of-sound-like facts that you issue in broad statement. Facts are verifiable as such and won't change from day to day like a lie can.

Which the Donald does as well. He lies then changes his lie depending on the day. Lies are much more convenient for the inept than facts. Because facts prove Donald has failed many times and left other people holding the bag to the tune of Billions of dollars. Why do you trust somebody that lies so much?

Why does The Donald need to lie so much? Maybe because he can't win if he tells the truth.

A different day, a different Donald.
In my opinion, Hillary has fundmentally lied to the public in a lawyerly way to avoid the truth. She has flat out lied about the findings of the FBI, etc. She is corrupt and using her charity organization to enrich herself and it is funded from foreign donors. The list just continues to go on.

Trump is a businessman, not a politician and not a lawyer. He says things that are off the cuff and sometimes just plain wrong. However, I do not believe he is trying to fundamentally lie to me.

Therefore, the difference is crystal clear to me.

You have said repeatedly you are not going to vote for Hillary so I am not sure why you keep stirring up shit.
 

bundee1

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In my opinion, Hillary has fundmentally lied to the public in a lawyerly way to avoid the truth. She has flat out lied about the findings of the FBI, etc. She is corrupt and using her charity organization to enrich herself and it is funded from foreign donors. The list just continues to go on.

Trump is a businessman, not a politician and not a lawyer. He says things that are off the cuff and sometimes just plain wrong. However, I do not believe he is trying to fundamentally lie to me.

Therefore, the difference is crystal clear to me.

You have said repeatedly you are not going to vote for Hillary so I am not sure why you keep stirring up shit.
That's your tenuous connection to trump, that you're both businessmen? He screws little turds like you everyday.
 

NLXSK1

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That's your tenuous connection to trump, that you're both businessmen? He screws little turds like you everyday.
He has had a number of bankruptcies but he has created over 500 companies. Business is business. You go out and offer your product or service and if people accept then you become profitable. I dont see businesses as screwing one another over rather simply competition.

Trump will be better for the business environment because he understands it. Hillary attacks it while receiving donations under the table.

We are 20 trillion dollars in debt. If there are 300 million people living in America that means that the government has taken out a credit card on every one of them and run it up to 67,000 dollars. If you want to just include the producers then the amount is much higher.

Do you have 67,000 dollars to pay the government back? How many members in your household? Can you pony up a cool quarter of a million dollars for a family of 4?

We are in serious financial trouble and Bush + Obama made it far far worse.

Hillary just wants to continue the Obama legacy which is rampant spending, higher taxes, more regulation, and a more hostile business environment.

I would like to see growth and jobs and economic activity. The government cannot create that, they can only encourage it by getting out of the way.
 

Unclebaldrick

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He has had a number of bankruptcies but he has created over 500 companies. Business is business. You go out and offer your product or service and if people accept then you become profitable. I dont see businesses as screwing one another over rather simply competition.

Trump will be better for the business environment because he understands it. Hillary attacks it while receiving donations under the table.

We are 20 trillion dollars in debt. If there are 300 million people living in America that means that the government has taken out a credit card on every one of them and run it up to 67,000 dollars. If you want to just include the producers then the amount is much higher.

Do you have 67,000 dollars to pay the government back? How many members in your household? Can you pony up a cool quarter of a million dollars for a family of 4?

We are in serious financial trouble and Bush + Obama made it far far worse.

Hillary just wants to continue the Obama legacy which is rampant spending, higher taxes, more regulation, and a more hostile business environment.

I would like to see growth and jobs and economic activity. The government cannot create that, they can only encourage it by getting out of the way.
You say "he understands it" like there is some uniform manner in which business is done - but there isn't. There are businesses that make the world better and businesses who leach off the system. Businesses are made up of humans, some are bad and some are good. And there is not a positive correlation between good and successful business.

TRUMP!'s style of business is one of bullying, fraud, narcissism and just plain greed. The fact that you see something in him that makes you say "yeah, this guy would make a good President - this is what America is about to me." suggests to me that you hate society and look at government as a tool to enforce your sociopathic tendencies.
 

NLXSK1

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@bundee1

I have some respect for you because you can put up a good argument when you take the time. So I want you to understand what comes next is not a put down. I dont think you have ever owned a business before so I think that like all of us you are missing a valuable perspective.

Lets take yesterday for example. I had 4-6 calls come in for jobs. Some of them come from referral services where we compete for a customer calling in. On one call yesterday a client asked about a new home inspection and I told him I would do it for $400.00 which based on the square footage was about 90% of my retail price so I offered a 10% discount. He informed me that another company had already bid the job for $320.00. Did that company screw me over? I congratulated the customer on getting a really good deal and we ended the call. It wasnt worth dropping $100.00 off my fee to get the job.

Another call comes in from a client. He wants to know if he can save money on a home inspection. He tells me the size of the home and I quote him $350.00 and throw in a free termite inspection. My retail price would have been about $440 so I took $90 off this job or about a 20% discount. He is really happy because the other company wanted $425 for both inspections. If I had known the other bid I might have come up a little on my offer but the price is fair. Did I screw over the other company?

Your previous post seems to indicate that businesses are trying to hurt each other in some evil way. I simply view it as competition between service providers. Your attitude indicates some sort of emotional investment in winning or losing. My point of view does not include emotion. If I want more jobs I can lower my prices, it is simply a business decision without any feelings involved whatsoever.

So when you say that trump is screwing business owners like me every day I simply do not see it that way. He is engaging in competition. If I have a good product at a competitive price then I have just as good a shot as the next guy. When the tables become unfair is when government gets involved and creates crony capitalism. Hillary Clinton is a champion of that. Donate to her foundation and she will be much more receptive to your suggestions if you are a big business or foreign nation.
 

NLXSK1

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You say "he understands it" like there is some uniform manner in which business is done - but there isn't. There are businesses that make the world better and businesses who leach off the system. Businesses are made up of humans, some are bad and some are good. And there is not a positive correlation between good and successful business.

TRUMP!'s style of business is one of bullying, fraud, narcissism and just plain greed. The fact that you see something in him that makes you say "yeah, this guy would make a good President - this is what America is about to me." suggests to me that you hate society and look at government as a tool to enforce your sociopathic tendencies.
Is your argument that Hillary Clinton understands business better than Trump?

I reject the bullying, fraud and greed allegations. Narcissim? Maybe... But it isnt a crime. Plenty of people are narcissistic including me.

I want less government. Hillary Clinton wont give us that. You look at things and apply emotion rather than logic and get erratic results.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Is your argument that Hillary Clinton understands business better than Trump?
No dimwit. It is that she would make a better President than TRUMP! The same way I would make a better doctor than would a 3 month old infant.

As far as what you reject? I do not give a fuck. 70% of voters see it. You lose.

Next.
 

bundee1

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@bundee1

I have some respect for you because you can put up a good argument when you take the time. So I want you to understand what comes next is not a put down. I dont think you have ever owned a business before so I think that like all of us you are missing a valuable perspective.

Lets take yesterday for example. I had 4-6 calls come in for jobs. Some of them come from referral services where we compete for a customer calling in. On one call yesterday a client asked about a new home inspection and I told him I would do it for $400.00 which based on the square footage was about 90% of my retail price so I offered a 10% discount. He informed me that another company had already bid the job for $320.00. Did that company screw me over? I congratulated the customer on getting a really good deal and we ended the call. It wasnt worth dropping $100.00 off my fee to get the job.

Another call comes in from a client. He wants to know if he can save money on a home inspection. He tells me the size of the home and I quote him $350.00 and throw in a free termite inspection. My retail price would have been about $440 so I took $90 off this job or about a 20% discount. He is really happy because the other company wanted $425 for both inspections. If I had known the other bid I might have come up a little on my offer but the price is fair. Did I screw over the other company?

Your previous post seems to indicate that businesses are trying to hurt each other in some evil way. I simply view it as competition between service providers. Your attitude indicates some sort of emotional investment in winning or losing. My point of view does not include emotion. If I want more jobs I can lower my prices, it is simply a business decision without any feelings involved whatsoever.

So when you say that trump is screwing business owners like me every day I simply do not see it that way. He is engaging in competition. If I have a good product at a competitive price then I have just as good a shot as the next guy. When the tables become unfair is when government gets involved and creates crony capitalism. Hillary Clinton is a champion of that. Donate to her foundation and she will be much more receptive to your suggestions if you are a big business or foreign nation.
I appreciate your hustle and determination in getting your small business to succeed but I think you get so laser focused on your small business owner pov that it dictates the rest of your actions. Every decision is success or fail for you.

Trump StiffING vendors and services isn't cool.
 

NLXSK1

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I appreciate your hustle and determination in getting your small business to succeed but I think you get so laser focused on your small business owner pov that it dictates the rest of your actions. Every decision is success or fail for you.

Trump StiffING vendors and services isn't cool.
How did he stiff vendors? I am still not seeing this part of it.

It is not like I get to pick who I want for president. I have 2 false choices and I would never vote for Hillary... We dont need to keep going round and round. No matter what comes out about Donald Trump I am more than certain Hillary is a crooked criminal out only for herself and seriously bad for the business environment in the country.

Every business persons decisions are success or fail. I have owned a manufacturing plant as well and had vendors and employees, etc. If you dont pay a vendor you are not going to get services from them again and your credit and reputation in the industry is going to take a hit.
 

londonfog

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How did he stiff vendors? I am still not seeing this part of it.

It is not like I get to pick who I want for president. I have 2 false choices and I would never vote for Hillary... We dont need to keep going round and round. No matter what comes out about Donald Trump I am more than certain Hillary is a crooked criminal out only for herself and seriously bad for the business environment in the country.

Every business persons decisions are success or fail. I have owned a manufacturing plant as well and had vendors and employees, etc. If you dont pay a vendor you are not going to get services from them again and your credit and reputation in the industry is going to take a hit.
and this is why you are a failure at operating a small business.
 
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