Hillary can't be trusted

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Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Fogdog said:
What you posted is laughably beyond truthy in content.

Remember please that facts are verifiable. I'll list my reply. Everything I call a fact in my response below can be backed up by main stream press such as the Washington Post, New York Times or other major news outlet, including CNN. I'm not quoting left leaning sources such as Huffpo and Politico. Politifacts and Factcheck are also reputable sources get over it. The reason you don't like them is because Trump can't go five minutes without telling a lie or at best, something that is not true and they factually report it. The "lies every five minutes" statistic came out of his speech at the convention.

I don't think any politician should be completely trusted. Hillary doesn't get a free pass from me. Trump on the other hand can be trusted to be the authoritarian bigoted lawless person that he very honestly represents himself to be. Which is why my vote will go to Hillary.

  • She's the most experienced person running for office in this election and compared to previous presidents, you'd have to go back to Truman to find one with equivalent years of experience
  • She shows the ability to listen to public opinion and learn and alter her policies with the times.
  • She will protect and extend the affordable care act.
  • She will not back down from the gun lobby and will push forward legislation that ends loopholes that mass murderers have used to obtain guns.
  • Her economic policy does not include tax cuts for the wealthy and wild spending increases. She identifies tax increases on the wealthy as one way to increase tax revenues.
  • Her foreign policy is supportive of national defense treaties like NATO
  • She supports providing legal status to illegal immigrants who are already here and contributing to its prosperity.
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Your sources are garbage. Poltifact is an opinion site sorely lacking in citations.
 
UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
The information I have discovered has led me to believe/feel/think that hillary is the worst candidate for president.
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the information you have discovered has also led you to believe that the charleston church shooting was a false flag attack by the united states government to start a race war though.

in other words, you are not very good at at discerning good information from wild conspiracy theories that only a fried chicken with an IQ of 1.5 would believe.
 
Unclebaldrick

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Flaming Pie said:
FBI director said she lied under oath.
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Big fucking deal.

OK, I will indulge you


Do you think it is ok that her foundation recieved millions from foreign governments that she was in negotiations with as secretary of state?

Nope.

Do you think it is ok that she lies and misleads the public at every opportunity?

I don't believe that at all. She frequently lies to suit herself. Most of what she says is truthful. Aren't you missing the log in TRUMP!'s eye? He lies all the time for reasons nobody can fathom. Most of the lies are ugly and hateful. I can only assume his supporters souls are too.

Do you think it is ok that CNN does not give her the same scrutiny as they give trump and other candidates?

If I accept your premise, I would say that it is CNNs problem, not mine. But I don't accept the premise in the least. Hillary has been under a microscope for 40 or more years and the Republicans have attacked her for ridiculous and inconsistent things - like BENGHAZI. You want CNN to follow these allegations despite them being overblown by the breathless dirt-machine of the Republican party. And you want them to gloss over the very obvious warning labels that Donald TRUMP! has plastered over his past. Sorry, you lose this one too.

BTW, this bullshit premise of Hillary escaping scrutiny comes from a guy who wanted to know why nobody was doing any reporting on the picture of Ted Cruz's dad and Lee Harvey Oswald on the National Inquirer. "Why is nobody talking about this?" You are very easily fooled Pie.

Do you think it is ok to ban all semiautomatic guns?

It doesn't really matter as neither candidate wants to do that. Do you support the Republican NRA-Puppet party in resisting any and all restrictions on any type of gun? I used to be a member of both organizations. Is this the first election you have ever really looked at?

Do you think it is ok to push for the removal of foreign government leaders?

Yes, depending what you mean by "push". It has been our policy for the entire history of the country in one way or the other. I think that the way it was done with Allende was very wrong, however I would like to see Assad 'pushed' out and believe it is worthy of consideration as far as policy goes - but the issue is far more complicated than you might think. Perhaps you should be more specific in your criticism. You seriously think TRUMP! won't run his mouth off tearing down world leaders - friends and foe - alike? Ha. You truly have scales over your eyes. TRUMP! in international affairs would make a bull in a china shop seem like archiving.

Fun fact: I used to be a TA for the guy who wrote the original position paper used by the CIA to justify Allende's coup. It was sort of taken out of context but sort of not. The Professor was a good guy. Not sure I liked all his work on the NSA but he was a lot of fun.

Do you think we should have completely open borders and let people into our country that do not have proof of identity?

I think this question shows your ignorance of the issue. Massive, stinking ignorance. Yes, I do believe that we should take people into our country without identity and keep them under guard until we establish who they are. But I don't think this is what you are really asking. I think you want to stop all Muslim immigration which I consider brutally racist and patently evil. Which group of immigrants were your people in? Or were you one of those from the Colonial era that whined about papal influence and dirty Italians while you beat them?

There are vetting procedures but there can never be a guarantee of safety - which is the bar the Republicans are currently holding. Well guess what, I can't guarantee Sunni isn't going to go mental - nobody can! So this dodge is exposed as the same type of racist bullshit that brought you the racist immigration laws of the 20s and put tens of thousands of American citizens in fucking camps. You should be ashamed - but your're not. 'Merica. Fuck yeah.

The FBI said her private server as Secretary of State was less secure than a Gmail account. What if she decides to do that again?

What is it with you and these half-baked questions? I do not doubt what Director Comey said in the least. Just use Google and you can see the things I have said about it in this very forum.

But I don't think it is likely she will try to set up her own server as President. On the other hand, if you brought up the more thoughtful question of "what is she likely to do in order to circumvent oversight as President?" - I might have given you a point. Until comparing her to TRUMP!. Then I would have taken your point away and looked at you sadly.




The truth is, your questions are largely garbage since Hillary is not running in a vacuum. She is running against the least suitable choice for President I have ever seen and for it to escape you tells me a lot. It just kind of shows that you have bought the alternative reality narrative that the right-wing toils over when normal people are hugging their children. I would literally do a better job as President than Donald TRUMP!. I think Hillary would blow my doors off though. And yes, she will make billions in the process. So would TRUMP! but he would rip off the little guys directly as is his wont.

Don't worry. A lot of my family and my wife's family will be voting for TRUMP!. I have similar contempt for them.

Please don't leave the word "arrogant" out of your reply. I probably deserve it.
 
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Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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UncleBuck said:
the information you have discovered has also led you to believe that the charleston church shooting was a false flag attack by the united states government to start a race war though.

in other words, you are not very good at at discerning good information from wild conspiracy theories that only a fried chicken with an IQ of 1.5 would believe.
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Not sure what you are referring too. I have never said anything about trying to incite a race war.
 
UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
How so? Because I don't believe I have commented on that?

You're the dumbass who keeps putting words in my mouth and pretending like that makes it real.
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simply pathetic. you literally cited this guy, i asked you about him, you ignored. a realtime demonstration of how ignorance works (or doesn't work).

just go back to guzzling cum in order to avoid getting a job. then complain about the labor participation rate for good measure.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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UncleBuck said:
simply pathetic. you literally cited this guy, i asked you about him, you ignored. a realtime demonstration of how ignorance works (or doesn't work).

just go back to guzzling cum in order to avoid getting a job. then complain about the labor participation rate for good measure.
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See above post. I have never said what you claim I said.

False flag race war. Search the terms people. Uncle buck is a fucking liar.
 
UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
See above post. I have never said what you claim I said.

False flag race war. Search the terms people. Uncle buck is a fucking liar.
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yeah, see above post.

that is the guy who you are saying has it all figured out.

you so smart.

better go google it.
 
UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
Your search results did not match mine. So i was like, "hmmm thats not right, you should of had this site at the top of the list."
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ummm, OK?

does not change how much credibility you give to the "charleston was a false flag attack by the government to start a race war" guy.

do you also think gay rights will bring the end of time?
 
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