Obama Founded Isis

GroDank101

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Because he allowed them to form by withdrawing our troops from Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
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UncleBuck

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Because he allowed them to form by withdrawing our troops from Afghanistan and Iraq.
flashback to 2008 for the hopelessly stupid racist morons:

WOLF BLITZER: How does the United States get out of this situation? Is there a way out?

DONALD TRUMP: You know how they get out? They get out. That's how they get out. Declare victory and leave. Because I'll tell you, this country is just going to get further bogged down. They’re in a civil war over there, Wolf. There's nothing we're going to be able to do with a civil war. They are in a major civil war.
 

Rizlared

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Because he allowed them to form by withdrawing our troops from Afghanistan and Iraq.
Isis exist due to the instability in Syria and the funding and support they have had from the USA (amongst others)

A project that started in 2006

Obama wasn't a factor (and I am not from your country, I am unbiased with regards your domestic politics)
 

Morbid Angel

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How did ISIS get USA weapons ?

A Pakistani friend of mine posted a video a year or two ago of a US Ammo/Weapons parachute drop behind ISIL lines. The package was intercepted by the Peshmerga (sp?) who saw the drop to ISIL and made the charge, defeating ISIL and gaining the dropped cache. They video taped the contents, and tried to show what the US was doing, but of course it would be hard to prove with 100% certainty for obvious reasons. I also dont speak the kurdish language.

Either way, a very suspect video in any case.
 

SneekyNinja

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A Pakistani friend of mine posted a video a year or two ago of a US Ammo/Weapons parachute drop behind ISIL lines. The package was intercepted by the Peshmerga (sp?) who saw the drop to ISIL and made the charge, defeating ISIL and gaining the dropped cache. They video taped the contents, and tried to show what the US was doing, but of course it would be hard to prove with 100% certainty for obvious reasons. I also dont speak the kurdish language.

Either way, a very suspect video in any case.
They haven't sold any American made weapons to ISIS, they have sold obsolete Russian made hardware to "Syrian Rebels" though.

The case you're referring to was in the news (some cover up) and it was a result of mistaken coordinates, not some nefarious plot.

Conspiracy theory idiots are idiots.
 

Rizlared

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Conspiracy theories exist for a reason.

The idiots are those who label everything a conspiracy theory and then dismiss it all.

Every claim should be researched independently on its own merit.

Hillsborough was a conspiracy theory, by your rationale, those who faught for the truth for 25 years are idiots? Yet the British prime minister stood in parliament and apologised for it.

So, for 25 years the victims families are idiots and then it's no longer a conspiracy theory and they are no longer idiots for saying the same thing.

Also, you accept a TV news story as the truth (which it may be) with no other info to support that claim as though news outlets wouldn't lie. Naive. Again, the media were complicit in covering up Hillsborough.

And in case that is too English a reference...there is no physical way JFK gets shot by LHO.

Think Watergate also, if those reporters hadn't have been able to prove the truth, would that have changed what the truth was?

It would have remained a conspiracy theory.

Finally, the definition of a conspiracy is two or more people acting in secrecy to bring about a pre determined outcome. So, anyone believing that two or more people may do this is an idiot?

Easy to label, insult and dismiss... doesn't make it any more or less true.

It appears more a case of cognitive dissonance than anything else
 
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