EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

[Padawanbater2]

We don't live in a democracy when the results of voting are treated with such disregard.

With the DNC email leak, apparently many are completely aware that we don't live in a democracy and, to my surprise, many are content with it, so long as their choice wins.. I suspect if the same thing were happening where the establishment chose Trump over Clinton, and he were currently ahead in the polls and seen to be the next presumptive president of the United States they'd feel much differently about the subversion of democracy..

 

[ttystikk]

With the DNC email leak, apparently many are completely aware that we don't live in a democracy and, to my surprise, many are content with it, so long as their choice wins.. I suspect if the same thing were happening where the establishment chose Trump over Clinton, and he were currently ahead in the polls and seen to be the next presumptive president of the United States they'd feel much differently about the subversion of democracy..

Quite so, to the point where many are asking me what I'm complaining about.

I find it shocking that so many have blinders on to the implications of the disintegration of our founding principles.

 

[ttystikk]

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/16/490103767/npr-battleground-map-hillary-clinton-solidifies-lead-against-donald-trump

 

[Padawanbater2]

Quite so, to the point where many are asking me what I'm complaining about.

I find it shocking that so many have blinders on to the implications of the disintegration of our founding principles.

No way! What are you talking about?! No way the establishment could ever switch and choose a guy like George W. Bush to be president and get us into some shit that would take decades to fix..

Oh, wait..

 

[ttystikk]

No way! What are you talking about?! No way the establishment could ever switch and choose a guy like George W. Bush to be president and get us into some shit that would take decades to fix..

Oh, wait..

LMFAO-

If only it was funny.

Our country is slipping over the precipice. I hear lots of pushback from people about how things aren't 'that bad', these are people I collectively refer to as the frog in the pot of water crowd; because the heat has been turned up slowly, over decades, they simply don't understand how dire our situation has become.

 

[Fogdog]

With the DNC email leak, apparently many are completely aware that we don't live in a democracy and, to my surprise, many are content with it, so long as their choice wins.. I suspect if the same thing were happening where the establishment chose Trump over Clinton, and he were currently ahead in the polls and seen to be the next presumptive president of the United States they'd feel much differently about the subversion of democracy..

LMFAO-

If only it was funny.

Our country is slipping over the precipice. I hear lots of pushback from people about how things aren't 'that bad', these are people I collectively refer to as the frog in the pot of water crowd; because the heat has been turned up slowly, over decades, they simply don't understand how dire our situation has become.

Bernie lost, Hillary won. I won't say get over it. I will say you are wrong.

 

[Padawanbater2]

LMFAO-

If only it was funny.

Our country is slipping over the precipice. I hear lots of pushback from people about how things aren't 'that bad', these are people I collectively refer to as the frog in the pot of water crowd; because the heat has been turned up slowly, over decades, they simply don't understand how dire our situation has become.

Yeah, I wish it was that easy..

If that's what it was, all it would take is the correct information to remedy the problem

These are people that already have the correct information and still choose otherwise. To them, beating the opposition is more important than the will of the people. Their view is what's correct, ironic isn't it? They've accused us of being the ones above criticism, of believing we're the ones who know's what's best, and even going so far as to call us 'elitists' for supporting Sanders and democracy. Their claim of "Oh, so you think you know what's best for 15 million Clinton voters?" seeps of irony when obviously they think they know what's best for 14 million Trump voters..

 

[Padawanbater2]

Bernie lost, Hillary won.

Which is irrelevant since the election was rigged

 

[ttystikk]

Money is corrosive to democracy. It must be excised from the political process, under pain of long term imprisonment and the loss of assets.

Democracy is what preserves the country. Subverting it leads to disaster.

This is NOT a 'liberal' or 'conservative' idea, it goes right to basic rules of play. If money counts, only the rich get to be heard.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Money is corrosive to democracy. It must be excised from the political process, under pain of long term imprisonment and the loss of assets.

Democracy is what preserves the country. Subverting it leads to disaster.

This is NOT a 'liberal' or 'conservative' idea, it goes right to basic rules of play. If money counts, only the rich get to be heard.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Primaries are not equal to the election, primaries are run by the parties to their own rules.

It was never a Democracy when it came to the primaries.

 

[schuylaar]

Primaries are not equal to the election, primaries are run by the parties to their own rules.

It was never a Democracy when it came to the primaries.

Nice talking point.

Is that how they're justifying it now?

Rules are in place for a reason, except for the Clintons, of course.

Taking a left turn here..I heard about someone accused of treason by having a classified photo of submarine he worked on, in his possession..they're now citing the FBI on 'intent' ala Clinton to get the guy off.. So what do we think? good or bad for the U.S.:

http://zionica.com/2016/08/16/citing-clinton-sailor-seeks-leniency-in-submarine-photos-case/

 

[SneekyNinja]

Nice talking point.

Is that how they're justifying it now?

Rules are in place for a reason, except for the Clintons.

Taking a left turn here..I heard about someone accused of treason by having a classified photo of submarine he worked on, in his possession..they're now citing the FBI on 'intent' ala Clinton to get the guy off.

And yet Bernie knew this before running and still ran as a Democrat...

And got 3 million less votes.

Are you saying voters "stole the primaries"?

No, the person with more votes won...it's really just that simple.

 

[schuylaar]

And yet Bernie knew this before running and still ran as a Democrat...

And got 3 million less votes.

Are you saying voters "stole the primaries"?

No, the person with more votes won...it's really just that simple.

1. You are kidding, right?
2. If it were the Sanders campaign that pulled that shit? DWS was gunning for Sanders, his pleas did NOT go unanswered..the board gathered collectively and asked for her resignation when she pulled Sanders access to his campaign database. That's why it only took about a day for her to release it. You just won't hear it in the news. Someone carried the story and it DIED..wonder why? Could it be DWS is...SATAN? Of course not, she was feeding the media what she wanted reported and PROOFREAD stories before they published. All along media and DWS/DNC were in collusion to throw the primary.
3. Don't you have to go to one of your 3 jobs so you can afford a side hobby to enjoy what's left of your life after working all those jobs, CR?

 

[londonfog]

Bernie is an Independent. He tried to switch and run Democratic. He was rejected soundly by party. If he was so sure in his believes and himself he should have just run as an Independent. Why are people surprise that he lost, trying to fake Dem.

 

[schuylaar]

Bernie is an Independent. He tried to switch and run Democratic. He was rejected soundly by party. If he was so sure in his believes and himself he should have just run as an Independent. Why are people surprise that he lost, trying to fake Dem.

He certainly didn't fake his Dem-ness and was welcomed by the party when it came time to caucus in the House/Senate for the last 40 years..Dems LOVE that Bernie caucuses Dem. His voting so admired..a perfect record..almost visionary-like.

<cough, voted against Iraq war, cough>

 

[londonfog]

He certainly didn't fake his Dem-ness and was welcomed by the party when it came time to caucus in the House/Senate for the last 40 years..Dems LOVE that Bernie caucuses Dem. His voting so admired..a perfect record..almost visionary-like.

<cough, voted against Iraq war, cough>

How else will he vote ? With the Repukes ? Bernie should have kept it honest and ran as an Independent.
He tried to fake it and did not make it

 

[SneekyNinja]

How else will he vote ? With the Repukes ? Bernie should have kept it honest and ran as an Independent.
He tried to fake it and did not make it

They won't accept Hillary simply got more votes.

Even if there were some "hiccups in the system", 3 million people didn't change over to Clinton as a result.

 

[Fogdog]

Which is irrelevant since the election was rigged

This is the next big lie that is to be repeated again and again.. Like Obama wasn't born in this country, that kind of thing. The primary wasn't even close. The kind of rigging that you claim -- media and hacking polling machines -- works for close elections. Bernie wasn't even close. It sucks to say but Bernie lost. The primary wasn't stolen. Hillary won it. .

 

[Fogdog]

1. You are kidding, right?
2. If it were the Sanders campaign that pulled that shit? DWS was gunning for Sanders, his pleas did NOT go unanswered..the board gathered collectively and asked for her resignation when she pulled Sanders access to his campaign database. That's why it only took about a day for her to release it. You just won't hear it in the news. Someone carried the story and it DIED..wonder why? Could it be DWS is...SATAN? Of course not, she was feeding the media what she wanted reported and PROOFREAD stories before they published. All along media and DWS/DNC were in collusion to throw the primary.
3. Don't you have to go to one of your 3 jobs so you can afford a side hobby to enjoy what's left of your life after working all those jobs, CR?

If the primary results had been closer, I would say you have a point. But it wasn't close. You are just a liberal form of a birther.