Cloning with Honey: What's your success rate?

[Newby Greenthumb]

Whats up everybody. I took some of the tiniest clones I could, as I defoliate throughout growth and didn't have any larger branches I wanted to give up in case it didn't work. I cut at a 45° and stripped one side about a 1/2" up, dipped in honey and straight into honey water drenched soil. I am 4 days from application and they both seem to be doing well with the exception of one of the two that has one of the leaves starting to droop and turn slightly lime green. One thing, the soil is swelling and very "airy", which I can only assume is going to be good for the roots. Let me know what kind of success rate you have had cloning with Honey and if the occurence with the swelling soil is normal, please. Thanks everybody.
(Day After Taking Clones)

(Day 4 After Taking Clones)

(Day 4 After Taking Clones, Small Leaf Discoloration)

 

[potpimp]

Sittin in on this one.

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

Day 5

 

[vostok]

honey is my number one go get tool for any and all plant issues cloning too

just be aware only in USA and China antibiotics have got to be feed to the bees

hence honey.... to stay clean and healthy

always go organic

good luck

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

honey is my number one go get tool for any and all plant issues cloning too

just be aware only in USA and China antibiotics have got to be feed to the bees

hence honey.... to stay clean and healthy

always go organic

good luck

Yes sir! I agree! After researching on my own I found that honey is extremely underutilized in cannabis growing. I have fed my outdoor plant raw unfiltered wildflower honey from a local store since it was a seedling and she is gorgeous and it has been an effortless grow. Mother of the clones. Popped the seed on June 16th.

 

[vostok]

I'd advise you to remove that 'Newby' from your username

but it would only incite a riot with admin .....lol

time will tell

good luck

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

I'd advise you to remove that 'Newby' from your username

but it would only incite a riot with admin .....lol

time will tell

good luck

Ha ha! But I am, bro. And I am humble in regards to any knowledge I have. I spent a lot of time reading and learning the science of cannabis before I ever had the opportunity to grow. I wouldn't have grown this year if I didn't find a seed in my favorite strain. Ha ha! These forums are a great assistant and I really do appreciate the guidance, brotha.

 

[Rasta Roy]

I've never seen honey being used as anything but a carb substitute for molasses. Yall mind sharing your experience on the plant benefits?

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

I've never seen honey being used as anything but a carb substitute for molasses. Yall mind sharing your experience on the plant benefits?

I would say they both are extremely helpful in their own ways but honey contains an amount of folate that molasses doesn't. Folate is used in many ways as a vitamin in human context for establishing more oxygen carrying proteins through the blood system, thus allowing for better cell repair in infected areas. By establishing those proteins it creates an efficient transport for oxygen within the roots and leads to better source sink relations between root and canopy. Honey is also a natural repellent of bacteria, which molasses is as well, but to a stronger degree. Honey could literally sustain life. Its incredible what microbes will form in honey ridden soil over the course of time. This is why I suggest it for cloning over a $30 bottle of something...all day. But, then again, this is my first time...so. Lol!

 

[Rasta Roy]

I would say they both are extremely helpful in their own ways but honey contains an amount of folate that molasses doesn't. Folate is used in many ways as a vitamin in human context for establishing more oxygen carrying proteins through the blood system, thus allowing for better cell repair in infected areas. Honey is also a natural repellent of bacteria, which molasses is as well, but to a stronger degree. Honey could literally sustain life. Its incredible what microbes will form in honey ridden soil over the course of time. This is why I suggest it for cloning over a $30 bottle of something...all day.

Do you mix it in the water? Dip the cuttings in honey like you would with aloe or clone gel?

There's a lot of urban honey producers in my area I'd be interested to give it a shot!

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

Do you mix it in the water? Dip the cuttings in honey like you would with aloe or clone gel?

There's a lot of urban honey producers in my area I'd be interested to give it a shot!

I drenched my soil with honey water, cut my clones, shaved the side a touch and dipped them straight into the raw unfiltered honey and into the soil. Boom!

 

[Rasta Roy]

I drenched my soil with honey water, cut my clones, shaved the side a touch and dipped them straight into the raw unfiltered honey and into the soil. Boom!

What's your ratio? Teaspoon or Tablespoon per gallon?

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

What's your ratio? Teaspoon or Tablespoon per gallon?

I'm not particular with it. The only thing it offers is benefit, imo. I would have to say I use about 2 tablespoons per gallon when watering my plant. I used closer to probably 4 tablespoons/gallon in the cloning additive.

 

[Bacala]

just be aware only in USA and China antibiotics have got to be feed to the bees.

Don't understand this one. What do you mean?

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

Don't understand this one. What do you mean?

He means as far as using honey from bees within the US as opposed to other countries. Other countries and some made in the US use pasteurization, sterilization and antibiotics when bottling theirs. It is best to use the most local to where you are growing and be sure it's raw and unfiltered. If you have a Natural Grocers or something to that effect you should be able to find some pretty easily.

 

[Bacala]

I've never seen honey being used as anything but a carb substitute for molasses. Yall mind sharing your experience on the plant benefits?

I think the carbs are the main benefit, both for the plant, and more importantly for the soil. Feed the bugs. It does contain minerals and lots of vitamins, but in very small amounts so you'd need a lot of honey to really do anything. For cloning, honey has anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-microbial properties so it fights the bad guys.

I wish honey was a miracle plant food. I'm a beekeeper with lots of honey to get rid of every year so I'd love to label it as natural fertilizer for weed and sell it for crazy high prices

 

[Bacala]

He means as far as using honey from bees within the US as opposed to other countries. Other countries and some made in the US use pasteurization, sterilization and antibiotics when bottling theirs. It is best to use the most local to where you are growing and be sure it's raw and unfiltered. If you have a Natural Grocers or something to that effect you should be able to find some pretty easily.

Thanks. I was thrown by, "have got to be feed to the bees".

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

I think the carbs are the main benefit, both for the plant, and more importantly for the soil. Feed the bugs. It does contain minerals and lots of vitamins, but in very small amounts so you'd need a lot of honey to really do anything. For cloning, honey has anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-microbial properties so it fights the bad guys.

I wish honey was a miracle plant food. I'm a beekeeper with lots of honey to get rid of every year so I'd love to label it as natural fertilizer for weed and sell it for crazy high prices

You are absolutely right about the carbs for the soil and plant, but more importantly, the significant role that sugar plays in the growth process. Sugar metabolism is the second most important thing to photosynthesis. Sugar will absolutely increase cell production, and in some plants, in a significant fashion. I still give my lady fish ferts, kelp, and just starting into her P and K nutes now. I wish we could get away with just using honey as well! Ha ha! I'd certainly invest with you!

 

[Newby Greenthumb]

This link is a nice, in depth read as a reference.
m.jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/65/3/799.full
"Sugars serve as key components reflecting the plant’s energy status and, therefore, the ability to continuously sense sugar levels and control energy status is key to survival."

 

[tyke1973]

All my clones root within 7/14 days ,but I only ever keep the first to root,the others I either give away,or if there strains I have done my self,and I don't want them getting out to everyone I bin.