Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..

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Unclebaldrick

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An extreme way to prove his point, but commendable the way he's committed to his theory.

He Thelma & Louise'd it. Fair play to the lad. Shame he didn't Periscope it too.

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This is what happens when you are easily swayed by a nice presentation. I had not realized how many of yhese people yhere are. It sort of puts the politics section into perspective. Maybe TRUMP! will convert to flat earthism after the election. He can have his fsce painted on the dome.

Can you imagine nazis with youtube?
 

SunnyJim

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This is what happens when you are easily swayed by a nice presentation. I had not realized how many of yhese people yhere are. It sort of puts the politics section into perspective. Maybe TRUMP! will convert to flat earthism after the election. He can have his fsce painted on the dome.

Can you imagine nazis with youtube?
Mellowman loves youtube - as close to a Nazi as one can get without actually being one because, you know, he's gay. He might be fabulous in person, but his sexual orientation doesn't fly with them.

I would wager that a significant proportion of Trump! supporters are indeed fundy flat-earthers. Scary stuff.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Mellowman loves youtube - as close to a Nazi as one can get without actually being one because, you know, he's gay. He might be fabulous in person, but his sexual orientation doesn't fly with them.

I would wager that a significant proportion of Trump! supporters are indeed fundy flat-earthers. Scary stuff.
From where I sit, mostly it looks like the combination of dumbing education down mixed with access to unlimited information has raised a generation of people who are very poor at processing information and who have little knowledge of logic - but think that they do.

Here in the States we have a number of people (Rush Limbaugh in particular) who keep telling their followers that everybody else is a "low information" voter. The tags lines for Fox News are "fair and balanced" and "we do the reporting and let you decide". As you might imagine, both are completely false but - if you say it enough times...

I recently mentioned that I listen to a lot of Fox News and one of the users here called bullshit on me because 'there is no way I do that much research just to talk with five people here'. Research!? Limbaugh? Fox News? The only sort of 'research' it is is in the field of abnormal psychology. Now Pie is running around saying that the fact that guns are involved in most cases of gun violence is merely coincidental. The mind boggles.

I feel as if most people outside the country have a hard time realizing the drumbeat of stupidity here. All you see is that a large chunk of Americans are whackadoodle. They are, but there are some reasons for it. But radical anti-science fucktards are a global problem that we all need to work together on.

Roger Ailes is a genius at manipulating people. It will be interesting to see the results in the debates. My guess is that they are going to put the throttle on the "election is rigged" butthurt. This is going to have a bad effect on the country in the future. It will fuck up the legislation for a long, long time. We will continue to have this strange, bifurcated world where abortion is allowed but local pols keep restricting it. Guns are allowed but only in order to keep us all safe - from guns. The voting franchise will be locally attacked to keep voting honest and federally defended to not exclude minorities which is clearly the real goal. Ailes doesn't give a fuck what happens in 20 years - he'll be dead.

The courts. That is where it is all going to be happening here for the next decade. It is all about the courts. Demographics are a huge problem for these folks. Their numbers just aren't growing. It will all be over before too long and they will fade away to nothingness.


Fuck your flat earth bullshit @reddan1981 and @Mellowman2112 , ain't nobody got time for that shit.
 

Unclebaldrick

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There are many more of these nutjobs than one would think. It's scary
But are there more than there were decades ago? Or are they just taking part in the process on a global scale? We used to keep people who were crazy in institutions or in the basement. There are no more institutions and the first thing you give them when you shove them into the basement is internet. In my opinion, that is where most of them come from.

There will always be a percentage of people who deviate wildly from 'normal' brain functions. I would wager that 90% of terror acts by Americans (mass shootings and such) are being done by these types of people. I think that part of ISIS's sick genius is that they turn these people into suicide bombers. But at least they have found a way for them to make a contribution to their mode of 'society'. Plus, since the mental illnesses that might make you susceptible to this sort of thing seem to show up more often if people are put under extreme stress during their formative years - like a war zone - there is a steady supply of crazy people to draw from.
 

reddan1981

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Let's start with this one

No they don't. You made the positive claim that they do, so let's see the evidence
Ok you are correct per se. But look at the question you've used "whydo ships disappear before horizons before their masts do?" What you actually mean is; why does a ships hull disappear, as it sails into the distance. I said "Ships supposedly sailing over the edge reappear when viewed with a telescope".
(Laws of perspective.) What I failed to add was, when using eyesight alone. How ever there are a few reasons why, when talking about greater distances objects dissapear behind the horizon line.
1. Atmospheric conditions can affect clarity of an object and can cause various visual distortions.
Aerial perspective or atmospheric perspective refers to the effect the atmosphere has on the appearance of an object as it is viewed from a distance. As the distance between an object and a viewer increases, the contrast between the object and its background decreases, and the contrast of any markings or details within the object also decreases. The colours of the object also become less saturated and shift towards the background color, which is usually blue, but under some conditions may be some other color (for example, at sunrise or sunset distant colors may shift towards red). Wikipedia
2.Horizon line
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reddan1981

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"... gee. These flat earth guys have some compelling points."

No. No they do not. What the Flat Earth movement has is scientifically illiterate members. That is all. And we are both surprised and depressed at their sheer numbers
Evolution of consciousness. Prove it.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Evolution of consciousness. Prove it.
Sorry, we did. Many times. Even went outside of Earth so we could see it ourselves. But you don't believe that. The pictures are obviously photoshopped and a guy worked in Hollywood, etc.

Somehow it is much easier to believe that every astronaut or person who has ever flown a plane or taken a ship around the world is lying to you. People can't leave Earth because there is a fucking dome over it? Really?

Fuck you. You prove it. Show me that the door of the lunar lander is "too flimsy".

Your dumb-as-fuck ideas have been disproven dozens of times in this thread alone. But you just keep on keeping on and denying the obvious. We could literally take you to a physics lab and prove every law to you in order to show you that the moon's orbit is a perfectly acceptable orbit and you would find some way to deny the whole thing.

Jesus fucking Christ. Laws of perspective my ass. Take your fucking meds. Right now! Or no supper and I will turn the hose on you again.

Get back in the basement!

 

SunnyJim

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The sky did not look like that when i was a kid. Who is doing this? Why? Who is paying for it?
The Jews, man. The Jews.

Ok you are correct per se. But look at the question you've used "whydo ships disappear before horizons before their masts do?" What you actually mean is; why does a ships hull disappear, as it sails into the distance. I said "Ships supposedly sailing over the edge reappear when viewed with a telescope".
(Laws of perspective.) What I failed to add was, when using eyesight alone. How ever there are a few reasons why, when talking about greater distances objects dissapear behind the horizon line.
1. Atmospheric conditions can affect clarity of an object and can cause various visual distortions.
Aerial perspective or atmospheric perspective refers to the effect the atmosphere has on the appearance of an object as it is viewed from a distance. As the distance between an object and a viewer increases, the contrast between the object and its background decreases, and the contrast of any markings or details within the object also decreases. The colours of the object also become less saturated and shift towards the background color, which is usually blue, but under some conditions may be some other color (for example, at sunrise or sunset distant colors may shift towards red). Wikipedia
2.Horizon line
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So aerial and atmospheric perspective can be precisely measured, right? Can we have the numbers?

This one makes no sense:

"As the distance between an object and a viewer increases, the contrast between the object and its background decreases, and the contrast of any markings or details within the object also decreases"

So the further the object is from your line of sight, the harder it is to see due to aerial and/or atmospheric perspective? Could you please explain why an object at sea level when viewed at eye level (from sea level) disappears at around 2.9 miles, but if you were to climb to the top of a 40ft ladder, that object could still be viewed until it disappeared around 7.7 miles from your position?

The distance between you and the object has more than doubled but can still be seen, despite the 'atmosphere' getting in the way. This test can easily be performed if you have the inclination, so report back with the results.
 
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