Waiting for Amber Trichomes . . . and waiting . . . and waiting

Nonagronomist

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I have grown few Jack Herer Autos. I have harvested @day 88,with mostly cloudy triches. I have harvested @ 99days with 30% amber. My opinion, It wasn't worth waiting for amber. In fact, I prefered the earlier harvest.
I would chop.

As for smoking spiders, look up "bud washing".

Peace
When you initially posted the note about bud washing, I was very dubious. Then my wife tilled (had me till) and area next to the grow zone with our electric tiller which covered the plants in an even coat of dust like the fallout from a distant nuclear exchange. And so I started washing. I'm now a convert, primarily because I've seen what you wash off a plant that's been outdoors continuously for 90 days, and it's not stuff you want to be smoking.
 

whitebb2727

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Water won't knock off the good stuff. I would chop and throw a new batch out. You might start getting nanner if you try to ride it out...
Yea but you can save the pollen from it. I did and waiting for an outdoor auto to flower and I'm going to seed it out.
 

RoneGrown

Member
When you initially posted the note about bud washing, I was very dubious. Then my wife tilled (had me till) and area next to the grow zone with our electric tiller which covered the plants in an even coat of dust like the fallout from a distant nuclear exchange. And so I started washing. I'm now a convert, primarily because I've seen what you wash off a plant that's been outdoors continuously for 90 days, and it's not stuff you want to be smoking.
I thought....... This guy doesn't wash his outdoor bud!!!! Yuck! Bug poop! Yuck! Bugs! Yuck........ Its great to read down a tread and actually see someone accept that we are all still learning no matter noob or guru! Cheers bro.
 

tk9119

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I thought....... This guy doesn't wash his outdoor bud!!!! Yuck! Bug poop! Yuck! Bugs! Yuck........ Its great to read down a tread and actually see someone accept that we are all still learning no matter noob or guru! Cheers bro.
That's nature baby!!! You've smoked worst in bag weed I promise you.
 

THE KONASSURE

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you do know that true amber is genetic right ?

a lot of strains don`t make amber trichs

They do clear, cloudy then they shift to brown

Real amber means its amber or go`s clear then amber no milky stage

If the trich go`s milky then the next step is brown and its not the same as early amber trichs

brown gives you couch lock and amber gives a balance to the high, probably has more CBD or some other such cannabinoids or terps

With autos I go by the heath of the plant and the buds, is the plant healthy enough to grow longer ? do them buds look worth trimming yet ?

Looking at trics is all well and good but you have to also look at the plant and asses if you can run it longer or not if your going to lose yield or just be wasting time going longer

then your feed with autos should control how they ripen just as much if not more than the day lengths do


extra potassium sulphate and watering loads will normally make for darker hairs and browner trichs, some amber ones too if your lucky
 

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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I thought....... This guy doesn't wash his outdoor bud!!!! Yuck! Bug poop! Yuck! Bugs! Yuck........ Its great to read down a tread and actually see someone accept that we are all still learning no matter noob or guru! Cheers bro.
You know there's bugs, spiders, insects in food that we eat from the grocery store, man up
 

RoneGrown

Member
You know there's bugs, spiders, insects in food that we eat from the grocery store, man up
The point of cultivating your own is too avoid the bullshit. That's a no brainier buddy. What's funny to me is people will take out off their day to pick ARGUEMENTS on forums. I don't think eating or smoking bugs and bug fecal means your Manning up! Lol
 

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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The point of cultivating your own is too avoid the bullshit. That's a no brainier buddy. What's funny to me is people will take out off their day to pick ARGUEMENTS on forums. I don't think eating or smoking bugs and bug fecal means your Manning up! Lol
Would you rather smoke pesticides
 

Nonagronomist

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you do know that true amber is genetic right ?

a lot of strains don`t make amber trichs

They do clear, cloudy then they shift to brown

Real amber means its amber or go`s clear then amber no milky stage

If the trich go`s milky then the next step is brown and its not the same as early amber trichs

brown gives you couch lock and amber gives a balance to the high, probably has more CBD or some other such cannabinoids or terps

With autos I go by the heath of the plant and the buds, is the plant healthy enough to grow longer ? do them buds look worth trimming yet ?

Looking at trics is all well and good but you have to also look at the plant and asses if you can run it longer or not if your going to lose yield or just be wasting time going longer

then your feed with autos should control how they ripen just as much if not more than the day lengths do


extra potassium sulphate and watering loads will normally make for darker hairs and browner trichs, some amber ones too if your lucky
This is my first season, and I've learned a lot. First off, not all strains are created equal! Pretty obvious, no? But my experience is mostly from the bad old days when you had to know a guy who knew a guy and what you got was what you got. Most of it was never identified as to strain. "Tasty bud" was about as specific as you got, or maybe "from Garberville." I've have smoked in coffee houses and cannabis clubs in Europe, but on those occasions I was so generally amazed that such a thing as a cannabis club could exist that my eye for detail got set aside pretty early in those evenings.

So the profusion of strains is a bit of a wonderland for me. Add to that the fact that autos aren't very popular with my local grower/dispensaries (they hate autos because you can't profitably clone them) and so I don't have auto strains specifically adapted to my northern California climate. I've germinated about 15 different varieties this season (25 seeds in all and all but one auto) and 12 have or are expected to survive to adulthood. I've had one standout in terms of potency — a Fastbuds Pineapple Express, and another in terms of yield — Ultra Lemon Haze at about 3 oz.

As for how long to hold them, I do think I've wasted some time this season and probably degraded the quality of a couple of my earlier plants by leaving them unharvested for so long — waiting for amber trikes. So I'm refining how I interpret the state of the trikes.

So far, it's been well worth it — and I still have 8 plants in various stages of growth out back, and just about enough summer left to finish them off.
 

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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This is my first season, and I've learned a lot. First off, not all strains are created equal! Pretty obvious, no? But my experience is mostly from the bad old days when you had to know a guy who knew a guy and what you got was what you got. Most of it was never identified as to strain. "Tasty bud" was about as specific as you got, or maybe "from Garberville." I've have smoked in coffee houses and cannabis clubs in Europe, but on those occasions I was so generally amazed that such a thing as a cannabis club could exist that my eye for detail got set aside pretty early in those evenings.

So the profusion of strains is a bit of a wonderland for me. Add to that the fact that autos aren't very popular with my local grower/dispensaries (they hate autos because you can't profitably clone them) and so I don't have auto strains specifically adapted to my northern California climate. I've germinated about 15 different varieties this season (25 seeds in all and all but one auto) and 12 have or are expected to survive to adulthood. I've had one standout in terms of potency — a Fastbuds Pineapple Express, and another in terms of yield — Ultra Lemon Haze at about 3 oz.

As for how long to hold them, I do think I've wasted some time this season and probably degraded the quality of a couple of my earlier plants by leaving them unharvested for so long — waiting for amber trikes. So I'm refining how I interpret the state of the trikes.

So far, it's been well worth it — and I still have 8 plants in various stages of growth out back, and just about enough summer left to finish them off.
those 2 plants i posted are auto #1's, fastbuds are the bomb seeds, my auto's started flower at day 40, im expecting 90 days =)
 

THE KONASSURE

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This is my first season, and I've learned a lot. First off, not all strains are created equal! Pretty obvious, no? But my experience is mostly from the bad old days when you had to know a guy who knew a guy and what you got was what you got. Most of it was never identified as to strain. "Tasty bud" was about as specific as you got, or maybe "from Garberville." I've have smoked in coffee houses and cannabis clubs in Europe, but on those occasions I was so generally amazed that such a thing as a cannabis club could exist that my eye for detail got set aside pretty early in those evenings.

So the profusion of strains is a bit of a wonderland for me. Add to that the fact that autos aren't very popular with my local grower/dispensaries (they hate autos because you can't profitably clone them) and so I don't have auto strains specifically adapted to my northern California climate. I've germinated about 15 different varieties this season (25 seeds in all and all but one auto) and 12 have or are expected to survive to adulthood. I've had one standout in terms of potency — a Fastbuds Pineapple Express, and another in terms of yield — Ultra Lemon Haze at about 3 oz.

As for how long to hold them, I do think I've wasted some time this season and probably degraded the quality of a couple of my earlier plants by leaving them unharvested for so long — waiting for amber trikes. So I'm refining how I interpret the state of the trikes.

So far, it's been well worth it — and I still have 8 plants in various stages of growth out back, and just about enough summer left to finish them off.
If you get a green tent for outside as long as you can keep the heat and mold away you should be able to flower outside into the winter if your vegging them inside

With autos you can`t clone them easy but you can cut off all the buds then ga3 them most of the time they veg up some them start flowering again, sometimes they go male but then again sometimes clones die I guess and lose vigour or hemi and such

Plus if you have had a good auto and you get it to hermi you can collect the pollen off it and then whack it on a branch of a good regular plant and you`ll make some seeds that you know will flower all year round outside :)
 

Nonagronomist

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If you get a green tent for outside as long as you can keep the heat and mold away you should be able to flower outside into the winter if your vegging them inside

With autos you can`t clone them easy but you can cut off all the buds then ga3 them most of the time they veg up some them start flowering again, sometimes they go male but then again sometimes clones die I guess and lose vigour or hemi and such

Plus if you have had a good auto and you get it to hermi you can collect the pollen off it and then whack it on a branch of a good regular plant and you`ll make some seeds that you know will flower all year round outside :)
I have a harvested Ultra Lemon Haze auto that has a few subsidiary buds on it and a few leaves. Maybe if I just let it go, it'll produce pollen?
 

THE KONASSURE

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I have a harvested Ultra Lemon Haze auto that has a few subsidiary buds on it and a few leaves. Maybe if I just let it go, it'll produce pollen?
Maybe, do what you can to keep it alive

I find ga3 works well to induce vegging or as a pre cloning treatment

then I find triacontanol is better for inducing flowering it can also be used in veg or early flower to make a plant bush out more

I use a few other boosters and seaweed and bennies for for getting a flowered plant to veg, long days over 16 hours or over 14 hours at least and ga3 seem to work best

but if you leave the pop corn on it long enough it may even make some seeds no way to know if the seeds will be any good but still

maybe you can light stress it or something to get it to make some male pollen
 
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