Canadian doctors divided over details of legal marijuana

gb123

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As Canada prepares to legalize marijuana, the country’s doctors have a lot of concerns about the nitty-gritty of the law and how it will impact their practice, and patients.

Jeff Blackmer, vice-president of medical professionalism for the Canadian Medical Association, said it doesn’t matter whether physicians support legalization because that horse has left the barn, but “we need to figure out what we do when it is.”

To that end, the CMA surveyed physicians on a broad range of practical issues, the results of which were presented at a meeting of the group’s general council on Wednesday in Vancouver.

Currently in Canada, marijuana can be prescribed and used for medicinal purposes, but possession for recreational use is still a criminal act (at least in theory.)

Physicians are divided on how pot should be regulated: 43 per cent believe there should be a single regulatory regime (meaning no distinction between medicinal and non-medicinal use), while 39 per cent back a dual regime.

“Will the new law mean we won’t have to prescribe any more?” Dr. Blackmer asked. “That depends.” Physicians were also asked where marijuana should be sold once it is legal: 56 per cent said in “existing non-health-care structure,” meaning liquor stores; 47 per cent said in “legal storefronts” like dispensaries; 29 per cent in pharmacies ; and 16 per cent by mail. (The total exceeds 100 per cent because more than one choice was allowed.) Physicians were almost evenly divided on whether marijuana users should be able to grow their own.

Dr. Blackmer said the message in those choices is that “marijuana is recreational in nature.”

The survey also asked at what age Canadians should be able to purchase legal marijuana: 45 per cent of physicians said over the age of 21, compared with 35 per cent who said age 18 or 19.

Dr. Blackmer said there is a scientific basis for having a higher legal age than cigarettes and alcohol because of marijuana’s effect on the developing brain.

Where there was little disagreement was whether government should regulate THC levels in non-medicinal marijuana, with 72 per cent saying “yes.”

In a brief discussion of what the CMA should do next, conference delegates expressed a variety of concerns about legalization, ranging from the impacts of marijuana smoking on pregnancy through the need for more addiction treatment.

“Marijuana is here to stay,” said Janice Wong, a Vancouver physician. “But we as the CMA must ensure government is aware of the ramifications of use of this psychoactive substance.”

Pam Mansfield, a physician from Moncton, N.B., said one of the most concerning things is the levels of psychoactive substances like THC and CBD in marijuana are unregulated and unknown, so people don’t know what’s in their weed. Chris Milburn, a physician from Sydney, N.S., said doctors are too complacent about marijuana use by their patients.

“The more I learned about marijuana, the less I liked it,” he said. “This is not a legitimate medical treatment.”

But Ashley Miller of St. John’s said she is not convinced that marijuana is as harmful as other recreational drugs, such as alcohol.

She said the role of physicians is to give patients the best information possible to reduce harm, and pleaded with the CMA to provide practical evidence that will aid in daily practice.

Dr. Miller said a lot of her patients use marijuana and they have practical questions like: “What’s safer: Vaporization vs. smoking vs. edibles.”

Atul Kapur of Physicians for a Smoke-Free Canada said the reality is that “more high-school students toke than smoke” so, despite the fact that marijuana is being legalized, the CMA should advocate for strong public health campaigns, as they have done with tobacco.

“The goal of legislation is not to increase prevalence and use, it’s to decrease harm,” Dr. Kapur said.
 

PKHydro

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ChrisMilburn, a physician from Sydney, N.S., said doctors are too complacent about marijuana use by their patients.

“The more I learned about marijuana, the less I liked it,” he said. “This is not a legitimate medical treatment.”



How much learning did he actually do? It sounds more like "the more propaganda I listened to, the less I liked it"
 

CalyxCrusher

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Id say. I came across two articles yesterday about how Doctors want a THC cap on the rec program and an age limit of 25. The latter of the two because, get this, its easy for kids to fake 19 but a teenager cant pass for 25.

Why isnt this logic applied to alcohol or tobacco? More importantly, why are people who are uneducated on the matter chiming in? What fact based scientific evidence is being used for the THC cap?

They cant claim its harm reduction, since they prescribe poison in the form of opiods daily across the country. They also seem to want to discredit Cannabis since its not a man made synthetic. For people with 7years of University under their belts, they seem to be either willfully ignorant or forgetfull of the fact that most medicines are derived or a synthesized version of an already occuring NATURAL substance

So, all this really shows is their giant hard on for the need to be in control and perpetuate the stereotype about the god complex most of them have
 
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VIANARCHRIS

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Pam Mansfield, a physician from Moncton, N.B., said one of the most concerning things is the levels of psychoactive substances like THC and CBD in marijuana are unregulated and unknown, so people don’t know what’s in their weed.
Much like the fresh fruit and vegetables you buy. How do I know how much of a particular nutrient or vitamin I'm getting from those potatoes or apples? I grow my own weed so I know exactly what's in it.
 

CannaReview

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Id say. I came across two articles yesterday about how Doctors want a THC cap on the rec program and an age limit of 25. The latter of the two because, get this, its easy for kids to fake 19 but a teenager cant pass for 25.

Why isnt this logic applied to alcohol or tobacco? More importantly, why are people who are uneducated on the matter chiming in? What fact based scientific evidence is being used for the THC cap?

They cant claim its harm reduction, since they prescribe poison in the form of opiods daily across the country. They also seem to want to discredit Cannabis since its not a man made synthetic. For people with 7years of University under their belts, they seem to be either willfully ignorant or forgetfull of the fact that most medicines are derived or a synthesized version of an already occuring NATURAL substance

So, all this really shows is their giant hard on for the need to be in control and perpetuate the stereotype about the god complex most of them have
But they won't have any issues in a 17/18/19 year old's going to fight a war and possibly dying while they sit at home and joy freedom...
 

gb123

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Its only a matter of time until the truth is seen by all..

these money mongers will fail..and this is the industry to do that too
Its' ALWAYS BEEN THE WAY.. ;)
anyone who has been in it.knows this to be true!
 

n3fta

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This country let kids drive at 16 and drink as much liquor as they want at 19. Now they wan't a Canadian to be 25 to smoke some herb? I know people in there very early 20's that have children, and own their own home. I really hope that's just a silly number being thrown around.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Make them justify it by showing us all the facts proving alcohol does not have a negative effect on a developing brain. If 19 is considered the age of majority and you are recognized as an adult in all aspects of life, than restricting cannabis use to a legal consenting adult based on age is discriminatory.
 

CannaReview

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booze is more harmful than cannabis and we can have that at 18 (Alberta) 19 or 21 in other provinces so why 25 for it? i want to see the justifications on why booze is OK at these ages. lets see the research for that and then let's talk cannabis age restrictions.
BUT have you ever seen any news organization actually ask this question directly to HC or the doctors in charge?
 

nobody important 666

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that's why I would love to ask them myself!
I have 2 questions-why was cannabis made illegal and what was the rationale behind the various age limits for alcohol? i would love to ask in a public forum so they HAVE to answer
Not only that but why different levels of intoxicating. Ontario has the lowest level, for some reason .5 is over the limit. Just we can't handle our liquor as well as any other province.
 

Growdict

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""Dr. Barb Blumenauer of Kamloops said children have required intensive care unit admissions, and mechanical breathing support for comas and seizures from using marijuana. She called for the establishment of a national database to measure hospitalizations.

“It is a misnomer that marijuana is a harmless substance. That is certainly not the case with children,” she said, adding that B.C. has seen pediatric poisoning cases, seizures and comas.

Ottawa obstetrician/gynecologist Jennifer Blake said she can’t recall another drug that has been licensed and legalized with “such little evidence.” She said when the CMA makes its submission to the federal government it should stress the need for quality research and long-term post-market monitoring.""


Cant recall another drug legalized with such little evidence? - Ok, caffeine? All that shit they put in energy drinks I see kids drinking? All the athlete "supplements". Anything negative they say about cannabis has dozens of substances that are more harmful that i can buy off the shelf. Alcohol and tobacco are obvious, but also everyday otc drugs like aspirin, acetaminophen, ibuprofen, naproxen, codeine, caffeine. I am no pharmacist, but I bet one could walk thru the isles of Shoppers Drugs and point to many, many things that could kill you by taking the whole package at once, also long term use will typically harm the kidneys/liver/stomach. Shit, 8 litres of water taken at once will throw off your brain chemistry and kill you.
 

gb123

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Listen to this MORON...who paid for this idiot to go to school and who let him CHEAT to where he got... LMAOROTFF Guys a well..listen to him..

http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2694100894/

Ask yourself one question ...either it works..or it doesnt.
You CANT DIE USING IT!!!

THE GUY IS SELLING CONTROL where NO CONTROL is needed!!!

Adverse reactions hahahaha LMAO..YOU MEANS DEATH MOFO!!!! SAY IT HOW IT IS and quit selling green shwag like the other morons try to convince even on this site.
yeah

even babies and infants WONT DIE eating this shit..but they could die taking your booze.. or opido pills or just reg parma meds.
psychosis ? lmao idiot!

This guy is paid to read this sack of lying bullshit!!
thats obvious.. he is funny to listen to...the first doctor :lol:
 
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