Organic Miner
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Every time I read posts like this, I breathe easier about my investment.Well, anybody who happened to order 1212s, 1812s, or 1825s can sleep a little easier at night.
Every time I read posts like this, I breathe easier about my investment.Well, anybody who happened to order 1212s, 1812s, or 1825s can sleep a little easier at night.
Where are people purchasing Citizens? The only source I've seen is Digikey and it seems expensive.Well, anybody who happened to order 1212s, 1812s, or 1825s can sleep a little easier at night.
in US you can buy them at:Where are people purchasing Citizens? The only source I've seen is Digikey and it seems expensive.
They're basically all "call for availability". Are those sport lights anything worth checking out? 36,000 lm?in US you can buy them at:
https://www.cdiweb.com/Manufacturers/citizen/CatSum/LED-COB/?type=11131&manf=3039&NavType=1
I bet you will even breath more when the price of the gen 7 comes outEvery time I read posts like this, I breathe easier about my investment.
[email protected] ampsprice seems to be out... not sure DK is right though
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/bridgelux/BXRC-50C10K1-C-74/976-1479-ND/6152489
Do you feel the new gen Vero 29's are worth almost double what they want compared to the previous gen?[email protected] amps
162 lumens /watt
Test Current = 116 watts [about 50% efficient, can't quite remember the exact LER for 5k Vero 325-330? thats about 50% @162 lumens/watt....
Priced to Compare with new Cree's and 058's?
To the rest of the thread and not necessarily just speedy......
I have used Bridgelux 5k for about 3 years in Veg. Accept no substitutes lol
It's worth pointing out that this is not a previous generation analog. It's the 70V forward voltage version, which outputs quite a bit more light. Having said that, the 36 and 50V versions are the same price, which would make the 50V a no-brainer according to their data sheets. I'd take it all with a grain of salt for now, especially considering the historically awful prices of digikey.Do you feel the new gen Vero 29's are worth almost double what they want compared to the previous gen?
It's been a chore sorting through all the stuff on digikey's website lol. Thanks for the help in clearing some of this up. I want to build a 4 COB light for my 3x3 and wanted to run a 320W driver with (4) vero 29's in 4000K 80 CRI. Do you recommend then the 50V version listed hereIt's worth pointing out that this is not a previous generation analog. It's the 70V forward voltage version, which outputs quite a bit more light. Having said that, the 36 and 50V versions are the same price, which would make the 50V a no-brainer according to their data sheets. I'd take it all with a grain of salt for now, especially considering the historically awful prices of digikey.
Here is all of the gen 7 they currently list:
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?FV=ffecd511
I don't recommend anything, especially before they have even shipped. They seem to be even with Citizen for efficiency, which makes sense from a generational standpoint, Bridgelux is just taking longer to get to market. There's nothing magical about the output of any of these COBs, although I will say the 4000K Crees are much cooler colorwise than the 4000K Citizen and Bridgeluxes gen6s.It's been a chore sorting through all the stuff on digikey's website lol. Thanks for the help in clearing some of this up. I want to build a 4 COB light for my 3x3 and wanted to run a 320W driver with (4) vero 29's in 4000K 80 CRI. Do you recommend then the 50V version listed here
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?mpart=BXRC-40E10K0-B-73&vendor=976
Yes after talking to Robin from Northern grow lights after my last post I think I am leaning to the Cree 3590 in 4000K for this particular build. Although there are some Citi 1812's sitting here that will be put in action in other areas of the grow.I don't recommend anything, especially before they have even shipped. They seem to be even with Citizen for efficiency, which makes sense from a generational standpoint, Bridgelux is just taking longer to get to market. There's nothing magical about the output of any of these COBs, although I will say the 4000K Crees are much cooler colorwise than the 4000K Citizen and Bridgeluxes gen6s.
If you like the results you've seen with the old Veros, remember this will be new phosphors, so not exactly the same.
Is this for vegging? Those Crees are a bit of an outlier, like I said, skewed quite a bit more blue:Yes after talking to Robin from Northern grow lights after my last post I think I am leaning to the Cree 3590 in 4000K for this particular build. Although there are some Citi 1812's sitting here that will be put in action in other areas of the grow.
Thanks for your input here.
No not for veg, shit according to that graph the 4000K citi looks like the winner is that the 1812 in the graph?Is this for vegging? Those Crees are a bit of an outlier, like I said, skewed quite a bit more blue:
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...from my naked eye i woud say the cree curve is above 4700 KThose Crees are a bit of an outlier, like I said, skewed quite a bit more blue:
All the current gen 80 CRI Citizens use the same phosphor recipe, 1212 to 3618. I think that's how everybody does it. Same dies, same phosphors, different number of dies, different sized chips.No not for veg, shit according to that graph the 4000K citi looks like the winner is that the 1812 in the graph?
Thanks for your input here gives me much to considerAll the current gen 80 CRI Citizens use the same phosphor recipe, 1212 to 3618. I think that's how everybody does it. Same dies, same phosphors, different number of dies, different sized chips.