Botanicares Calmag plus? How much is too much?

[cindywhite]

To start off I am using ffof soil, an entire line of botanicare, and tap water that I don't know the Ppm of. I'm in northern ca growing outdoors so I'm just over 3 weeks in flowering. They've been healthy this whole time besides some copper spotting in the leaves so i bought some cal mag plus from botanicare (2-0-0) I figured with the extra nitrogen, I would buy some hydroplex (0-10-6) to get more PK. My question is how should I be using this cal mag? I've heard to be very careful with it but I also don't want to lose anymore leaves than I already have. The directions say to "use every watering as needed" I'm not really sure what that means. I've fed them twice so far at 5ml (1tsp) per gallon. The directions say 3-5ml per gallon. I don't know how to tell if they've had enough basically. I'm trying to prevent any build ups and possible lockouts.

I'm currently using
Botanicare cns17 ripe 1-5-4
Botanicare hydroplex 0-10-6
Botanicare calmag plus 2-0-0
Botanicare sweet raw supplement with magnesium sulfate 1.5% magnesium 2% sulfur
I'm also throwing in a teaspoon per gallon of molasses once every week. Are the molasses and sweet raw bad to use together? If so, which one should I stop using?

 

[purplehays1]

To start off I am using ffof soil, an entire line of botanicare, and tap water that I don't know the Ppm of. I'm in northern ca growing outdoors so I'm just over 3 weeks in flowering. They've been healthy this whole time besides some copper spotting in the leaves so i bought some cal mag plus from botanicare (2-0-0) I figured with the extra nitrogen, I would buy some hydroplex (0-10-6) to get more PK. My question is how should I be using this cal mag? I've heard to be very careful with it but I also don't want to lose anymore leaves than I already have. The directions say to "use every watering as needed" I'm not really sure what that means. I've fed them twice so far at 5ml (1tsp) per gallon. The directions say 3-5ml per gallon. I don't know how to tell if they've had enough basically. I'm trying to prevent any build ups and possible lockouts.

I'm currently using
Botanicare cns17 ripe 1-5-4
Botanicare hydroplex 0-10-6
Botanicare calmag plus 2-0-0
Botanicare sweet raw supplement with magnesium sulfate 1.5% magnesium 2% sulfur
I'm also throwing in a teaspoon per gallon of molasses once every week. Are the molasses and sweet raw bad to use together? If so, which one should I stop using?

How big of a pot of soil are the plants in? How big are the plants? How ong did they veg? Depending on these factors it is probably time to start hitting them with more nutrients, not just Cal/mg. If the plants have eaten all the mag (rust spots) then it is likely they have eaten more than just all the MG. I feel like you shouldn't need the hydroplex, the 1-5-4 product in combination with the cal/mg should be perfect. Plants in soil very rarely lockout.

Here is a good picture of most common deficiencies.

 

[jarvild]

Shouldn't need the cal-mag using CNS-17 in soil. Next time try using the 2-2-3 cns-17 formula. Not enough nitrogen in the 1-4-5 to keep a outdoor plant from dropping leaves.

 

[cindywhite]

How big of a pot of soil are the plants in? How big are the plants? How ong did they veg? Depending on these factors it is probably time to start hitting them with more nutrients, not just Cal/mg. If the plants have eaten all the mag (rust spots) then it is likely they have eaten more than just all the MG. I feel like you shouldn't need the hydroplex, the 1-5-4 product in combination with the cal/mg should be perfect. Plants in soil very rarely lockout.

Here is a good picture of most common deficiencies.

I put clones in the soil on June 27th so they didn't veg long. I only used nutrients for about a month in veg because the ffof was hot enough to last 4 weeks with just water. They're in 10 gallon pots. I posted everything I'm using on the bottom. Do you have an opinion on the molasses and sweet raw ? The largest plant is 42 inches tall. The others are just a few inches behind.

 

[purplehays1]

ya just add the cal-mag to what u are feeding, should be fine. I dont think using both of the sugar products is harmful but may be redundant.