'Why we hate you': ISIS reveal 6 reasons why they despise Westerners

[OddBall1st]

Leviticus 19 (the same passage they cite when they say homosexuality is an abomination) also says:
"Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.
Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.
...
When you enter the land and plant any kind of fruit tree, regard its fruit as forbidden. For three years you are to consider it forbidden; it must not be eaten.24 In the fourth year all its fruit will be holy an offering of praise to the Lord. But in the fifth year you may eat its fruit. In this way your harvest will be increased. I am the Lord your God.
...
Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord.
...
Keep all my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord."
There are a lot more. But basically, the people who think Gays are going to hell should also know they they will be joining them in hell if they have ever planted multiple plants in one field, worn clothing with more than one kind of fabric, cut their hair or shaved their beards, gotten a tattoo, or eaten fruit from a tree they planted less than 5 years ago (or forgotten to give all of year 4's fruit as an offering to God).
Hell is gonna be PACKED.

Jesus changed much of What the Holy Spirit said to Mosses. After the birth of Christ, Man was no longer God`s creation,...man became his family.

Jesus laid down the family rules.

God only spoke to his creation from Heaven, After Christ, he spoke face to face.

 

[OddBall1st]

You tell people "This book is the word of God". You tell it to children, who have no capacity to know their parents are lying or wrong, you tell people who are at their lowest points, who are the most vulnerable. Some people are too mentally unsound, or too young, or too stupid to realize how ridiculous that notion is, and they believe you. Then they read the book, which you have told them is written by an infallible God, and they find this:
"If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again."

And you think that this doesn't have an affect on people? Are you really that stupid? (Probably because you buy into the religion, but that's beside the point).

You need to start quoting New Testament. The family rules are different than those rules for the created.

 

[londonfog]

Jesus changed much of What the Holy Spirit said to Mosses. After the birth of Christ, Man was no longer God`s creation,...man became his family.

Jesus laid down the family rules.

God only spoke to his creation from Heaven, After Christ, he spoke face to face.

 

[Ace Yonder]

Jesus changed much of What the Holy Spirit said to Mosses. After the birth of Christ, Man was no longer God`s creation,...man became his family.

Jesus laid down the family rules.

God only spoke to his creation from Heaven, After Christ, he spoke face to face.

You need to start quoting New Testament. The family rules are different than those rules for the created.

I already covered this. Jesus IS God, the Old Testament is ALSO the word of Jesus, and the New Testament states over and over that the Old Testament is Law and is not changed. I will quote again.

"Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

"Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void."

"2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

3:17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

 

[Padawanbater2]

So are atheists killers as bad?

Just wondering as you seem to suggest that it is the teachings that have caused these people to do this. When it really isnt.

All people have freedom of choice. You can put me in a room with Quran for 20 years and then release me. I will still not follow the book. Nobody is forcing these people to take on these fucked up interpretations.

These people were fucked before opening the book you just seem to actually believe a book has controlled a persons actions.

Anybody who kills an innocent person is bad, including atheists

It is the interpretation of the teachings that cause people to commit horrible things based on their religion

 

[OddBall1st]

I already covered this. Jesus IS God, the Old Testament is ALSO the word of Jesus, and the New Testament states over and over that the Old Testament is Law and is not changed. I will quote again.

"Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

"Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void."

"2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

3:17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Then you covered it all wrong.

5:17 He did just that with his life and death.

5:18 You will not change him. You will not change the lords word. The pen is not needed, there are no letters.

5:19 Least in the Kingdom, is in the Kingdom. (forgiveness)

Luke

6:17 Easier. Jesus will not be changed. But Jesus can make change. That`s why it is not difficult. Difficult will be to try and change Jesus.

Austin 3:16. Oh hell yea.......

3:17 God tells Jesus the man, what to teach. Not man of the flesh. He will no longer speak to the flesh.

 

[OddBall1st]

You gonna pass that or what ?

 

[ttystikk]

So are atheists killers as bad?

Just wondering as you seem to suggest that it is the teachings that have caused these people to do this. When it really isnt.

All people have freedom of choice. You can put me in a room with Quran for 20 years and then release me. I will still not follow the book. Nobody is forcing these people to take on these fucked up interpretations.

These people were fucked before opening the book you just seem to actually believe a book has controlled a persons actions.

Sine people have such a bad sense of morality that they will adopt theirs from a book without thinking about it.

 

[Ace Yonder]

Then you covered it all wrong.

5:17 He did just that with his life and death.

5:18 You will not change him. You will not change the lords word. The pen is not needed, there are no letters.

5:19 Least in the Kingdom, is in the Kingdom. (forgiveness)

Luke

6:17 Easier. Jesus will not be changed. But Jesus can make change. That`s why it is not difficult. Difficult will be to try and change Jesus.

Austin 3:16. Oh hell yea.......

3:17 God tells Jesus the man, what to teach. Not man of the flesh. He will no longer speak to the flesh.

That is your interpretation, I find no evidence to support your assertions (and you clearly misunderstand what 5:18 means because it is saying that the strokes of the pen already exist, i.e. nothing written in the Old Testament will be changed until heaven and earth disappear and everything is accomplished after the events of Revelation)

 

[The-Budster]

Anybody who kills an innocent person is bad, including atheists

It is the interpretation of the teachings that cause people to commit horrible things based on their religion

Thank you. Now can you see that anything is up to interpretation?

This includes EVERYTHING including the meaning of life and how we should live it.

There could be an advert on TV that some American dude interprets as suggesting he should go out and kill someone. He is a fucking idiot for thinking that but that for some reason this is his understanding.

The Advertisements are not to blame for this outrageous behaviour and should not have to be linked in anyway regardless of what news channels pump out.

 

[The-Budster]

You tell people "This book is the word of God". You tell it to children, who have no capacity to know their parents are lying or wrong, you tell people who are at their lowest points, who are the most vulnerable. Some people are too mentally unsound, or too young, or too stupid to realize how ridiculous that notion is, and they believe you. Then they read the book, which you have told them is written by an infallible God, and they find this:
"If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again."

And you think that this doesn't have an affect on people? Are you really that stupid? (Probably because you buy into the religion, but that's beside the point).

You keep quoting Old Testament to try discredit the New Testament.

Different rules mate. Maybe you should go and say this to Jews. Hate on them for their beliefs as its theirs you keeping posting and feel so strong about .

Don't tell me what my beliefs are as you struggle to grasp imprecise Christian understanding for a start never mind specifically my interpretation of the message of the Book

 

[The-Budster]

[QUOTE="Ace Yonder, post: 12925051, member: 772195"
There are a lot more. But basically, the people who think Gays are going to hell should also know they they will be joining them.[/QUOTE]

Same as your previous post.

You keep posting Old Testament to try and Shame the New Testament.

If you had read the New Testament and understood it you would see that nobody should be judging anyone and that only God can judge. For anyone that does judge man then it will be remembered when his judgememt comes.

If you keep googling "text that shows Bible hates xxxxxx" then you'll find it. However you'll just find people posting the same shit you are copying with no true understanding. These people really hate the Jewish way of life and views yet don't have the balls to speak out against their beliefs so pick the Christian faith; The faith that has completely different views than Jews. Hence the new Testament.

It seems your problem is with Jews not Christians.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Thank you. Now can you see that anything is up to interpretation?

This includes EVERYTHING including the meaning of life and how we should live it.

There could be an advert on TV that some American dude interprets as suggesting he should go out and kill someone. He is a fucking idiot for thinking that but that for some reason this is his understanding.

The Advertisements are not to blame for this outrageous behaviour and should not have to be linked in anyway regardless of what news channels pump out.

The advertisements also aren't telling him that if he doesn't do it he'll burn for eternity

You're making a false equivalency

Religion commands it, the cost if you don't is eternal torment. Advertisements try to sell you things, they even add the warnings that say (closed course, do not attempt!) on car commercials to ensure that YOU DON'T do what they show you

 

[Padawanbater2]

You keep quoting Old Testament to try discredit the New Testament.

Different rules mate.

Same as your previous post.

You keep posting Old Testament to try and Shame the New Testament.

If you had read the New Testament and understood it you would see that nobody should be judging anyone and that only God can judge. For anyone that does judge man then it will be remembered when his judgememt comes.

He already responded to that criticism here;

I already covered this. Jesus IS God, the Old Testament is ALSO the word of Jesus, and the New Testament states over and over that the Old Testament is Law and is not changed. I will quote again.

"Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

"Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void."

"2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

3:17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

 

[The-Budster]

The advertisements also aren't telling him that if he doesn't do it he'll burn for eternity

You're making a false equivalency

Religion commands it, the cost if you don't is eternal torment. Advertisements try to sell you things, they even add the warnings that say (closed course, do not attempt!) on car commercials to ensure that YOU DON'T do what they show you

Saying DON'T DO IT doesn't stop shit!

DON'T OVERDOSE ON THIS MEDICATION. happens every year......

It is not a false equivalency. These people have interpreted their book as saying if you dont kill then you will be punished etc.

Many people do not see that understanding as in the book at all just like the guy watching the advert.

It wasn't there to me or you but it was to him.

 

[The-Budster]

He already responded to that criticism here;

And I responded showing how he doesn't understand that the 10 commandments state do not kill.

These stated by God , so if Jesus says I am not here to change the Law which is the 10 Commandments then Jesus is saying do not kill.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Saying DON'T DO IT doesn't stop shit!

DON'T OVERDOSE ON THIS MEDICATION. happens every year......

It is not a false equivalency. These people have interpreted their book as saying if you dont kill then you will be punished etc.

Many people do not see that understanding as in the book at all just like the guy watching the advert.

It wasn't there to me or you but it was to him.

A command from God is not the same as a warning against something. It is a false equivalency whether you want to admit it or not

Fanatics commit atrocities in the name of God because they believe their God has commanded it. They don't believe it because they're crazy, they believe it because they were indoctrinated into it. This is why generally speaking, atheists don't commit mass atrocities

 

[Padawanbater2]

And I responded showing how he doesn't understand that the 10 commandments state do not kill.

These stated by God , so if Jesus says I am not here to change the Law which is the 10 Commandments then Jesus is saying do not kill.

Do you believe that anyone who has ever killed anyone and claimed to be a Christian is not a real Christian because it says not to 'kill' in the 10 commandments?

Was Ronald Reagan a Christian?

 

[Ace Yonder]

And I responded showing how he doesn't understand that the 10 commandments state do not kill.

These stated by God , so if Jesus says I am not here to change the Law which is the 10 Commandments then Jesus is saying do not kill.

And you ignore the distinction between MURDER and KILL. The commandment is thou shalt not unlawfully kill, not thou shalt not kill at all. It only disallows MURDER, when the killing is not sanctioned by God. However it specifically states that there are times when killing IS sanctioned by God and is therefore not considered MURDER. You either refuse to understand this or you are unable to comprehend the difference. Either way, you are wrong.

 

[Ace Yonder]

There are a lot more. But basically, the people who think Gays are going to hell should also know they they will be joining them.

Same as your previous post.

You keep posting Old Testament to try and Shame the New Testament.

If you had read the New Testament and understood it you would see that nobody should be judging anyone and that only God can judge. For anyone that does judge man then it will be remembered when his judgememt comes.

If you keep googling "text that shows Bible hates xxxxxx" then you'll find it. However you'll just find people posting the same shit you are copying with no true understanding. These people really hate the Jewish way of life and views yet don't have the balls to speak out against their beliefs so pick the Christian faith; The faith that has completely different views than Jews. Hence the new Testament.

It seems your problem is with Jews not Christians.

You keep talking about the Old Testament like it isn't part of The Bible, and like Jesus didn't specifically say, multiple times, that the Old Testament is the Law and the Law will not change until after the second coming foretold in Revelation. You can pretend that that isn't the case, but the only person you are deceiving is yourself.