'Why we hate you': ISIS reveal 6 reasons why they despise Westerners

ttystikk

ttystikk

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The-Budster said:
Yeah and my point is they have no place adding to the book as they spent years before persecuting those people for the faith in the book.
It wasn't their faith that made them add to the book, it was their greed.

You deny numbers and facts.

Atheists have killed more than believers.

You seem to be denying a hell of a lot of murder to try and be the winner here....
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Once again, you fail at logic. An atheist doesn't seek out an affiliation, they just are. Trying to say that atheists kill more than religious people ignores causes- sectarian causes.

Derp.
 
The-Budster

The-Budster

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ttystikk said:
Once again, you fail at logic. An atheist doesn't seek out an affiliation, they just are. Trying to say that atheists kill more than religious people ignores causes- sectarian causes.

Derp.
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Regardless of causes if you want to ignore the FACT that Stalin and Mao killed many many more people BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEF (Atheism & Communist views) then go right ahead.
They killed because of their cause....how can you not see that?

However it looks ridiculous when you try and say they killed less than religious fueled murder when it's numbers show otherwise.

Religious murder numbers are not anyway near the hatred murders AGAINST religious people just because they victims have religion ;)
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Padawanbater2 said:
"Communist ideology could not coexist with the continued influence of religion even as an independent institutional entity"

Just like I said. They purged religion for total control

Revisionist history aside, organized religion is still the number one killer since 1AD
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oh, so that's when religion was invented!
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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ttystikk said:
'Heavily inflated' number? Jews didn't count their victims, THE NAZIS THEMSELVES DID.

You're pretty stupid if you think you can cherry pick history for 'facts' and ignore the rest.

Racist.
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>thinking 6,000,000 is historically accurate.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Lord Kanti said:
>thinking 6,000,000 is historically accurate.
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The Nazis were borderline obsessive record keepers and documented their crimes against humanity with excruciating detail. Many Jewish people have reconstructed their own family histories with the help of this very documentation.

Being a holocaust denier is just more proof that you're a morally bankrupt individual.
 
The-Budster

The-Budster

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ttystikk said:
The Nazis were borderline obsessive record keepers and documented their crimes against humanity with excruciating detail. Many Jewish people have reconstructed their own family histories with the help of this very documentation.

Being a holocaust denier is just more proof that you're a morally bankrupt individual.
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Why do you feel the need to feel so strong about jews being murdered but when christians are murdered in higher numbers you shrug it off?

I'm really interested in this one.

Are christians less important in your opinion?
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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ttystikk said:
The Nazis were borderline obsessive record keepers and documented their crimes against humanity with excruciating detail. Many Jewish people have reconstructed their own family histories with the help of this very documentation.

Being a holocaust denier is just more proof that you're a morally bankrupt individual.
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You seriously didn't know that over 6000000 is one of the oldest memes in the book?



Originally Posted by Encyclopaedia Britannica, 10th Edition, 1902, page 482

While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded...

1903

Originally Posted by The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), September 18th, 1903, page 6

[...] six million downtrodden brethren.

1904

Originally Posted by The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), February 19th, 1904, page 2

[...] where five or six million people existed under persecution.

1904

Originally Posted by The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), October 7th, 1904

[...] the final and definite deliverance of the six millions of Russian, Roumanian and Galician Jews [...] transporting five or six millionpeople over the sea.

1905

Originally Posted by New York Times, January 29th, 1905

He declared that a free and a happy Russia, with its 6,000,000 Jews, would possibly mean the end of Zionism, since the abolition of the autocracy would practically eliminate the causes that brought Zionism into existence.


There's plenty more, shall I continue? Perhaps I ought to post pre, and post war census data, or are statistics racist too now?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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The-Budster said:
Why do you feel the need to feel so strong about jews being murdered but when christians are murdered in higher numbers you shrug it off?

I'm really interested in this one.

Are christians less important in your opinion?
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I'm against anyone being killed without adequate justification, their religious preferences are irrelevant to me.

By the way, my standards for adequate justification are likely a lot higher/more restrictive than yours.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Lord Kanti said:
You seriously didn't know that over 6000000 is one of the oldest memes in the book?



Originally Posted by Encyclopaedia Britannica, 10th Edition, 1902, page 482

While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded...

1903

Originally Posted by The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), September 18th, 1903, page 6

[...] six million downtrodden brethren.

1904

Originally Posted by The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), February 19th, 1904, page 2

[...] where five or six million people existed under persecution.

1904

Originally Posted by The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), October 7th, 1904

[...] the final and definite deliverance of the six millions of Russian, Roumanian and Galician Jews [...] transporting five or six millionpeople over the sea.

1905

Originally Posted by New York Times, January 29th, 1905

He declared that a free and a happy Russia, with its 6,000,000 Jews, would possibly mean the end of Zionism, since the abolition of the autocracy would practically eliminate the causes that brought Zionism into existence.


There's plenty more, shall I continue? Perhaps I ought to post pre, and post war census data, or are statistics racist too now?
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That's cute; the Nazi genocide didn't get underway until the 1940s.

Derp.
 
ginjawarrior

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Padawanbater2 said:
1. Because you are disbelievers

"We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers; you reject the oneness of Allah – whether you realize it or not – by making partners for Him in worship, you blaspheme against Him, claiming that He has a son, you fabricate lies against His prophets and messengers, and you indulge in all manner of devilish practices."

2. Because you are liberal

"We hate you because your secular, liberal societies permit the very things that Allah has prohibited while banning many of the things He has permitted, a matter that doesn’t concern you because you Christian disbelief and paganism separate between religion and state, thereby granting supreme authority to your whims and desires via the legislators you vote into power."

3. Because some of you are atheist

"In the case of the atheist fringe, we hate you and wage war against you because you disbelieve in the existence of your Lord and Creator."

4. For your crimes against Islam

"We hate you for your crimes against Islam and wage war against you to punish you for your transgressions against our religion."

5. For your crimes against Muslims

"We hate you for your crimes against the Muslims; your drones and fighter jets bomb, kill, and maim our people around the world, and your puppets in the usurped lands of the Muslims oppress, torture, and wage war against anyone who calls to the truth."

6. For invading our lands

"We hate you for invading our lands and fight you to repel you and drive you out. As long as there is an inch of territory left for us to reclaim, jihad will continue to be a personal obligation on every single Muslim."

The article concludes that while foreign policy is an issue, the main reason they are hell bent on destruction is because they don't like the West very much.

It reads: "What’s important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular reason for hating you is secondary, hence the reason we addressed it at the end of the above list.

"The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/why-hate-you-isis-reveal-8533563
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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

that is by and far away the best rundown of isis that I have read yet

anyone and everyone here should read it to understand what drives isis ideology
 
The-Budster

The-Budster

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Lucky Luke said:
umm..wow.......just wow...

Thats all I have to say......



*mutters to myself about brown shirts and brainwashing and White supremacy advocates*
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You've been shown that this 6 million number and jews were tied waaay before the "Holocaust". Why do you not want to see the possibility that the number is incorrect when used to describe jewish death toll in WW2?
 
The-Budster

The-Budster

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Lucky Luke said:
Im not going to ague with a white supremacist. Your the scum of society. Have a great day,
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You would struggle to quote anything that would see me posting hatred or supremacy....

I have questioned the legitimacy of a number but hey you keep using your buzz words to win arguments ;)
 
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