Tittytwister69
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Smelled pretty good while growing then slow dried the whole plant for about 2 weeks and now been curing for 1 week in jars at proper RH. The color got lighter but it still has like a hayish/tea smell. I want the sweet smell!
My bud smells like hay, will it get better?
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cat of curiosity
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burp your jars for longer periods of time.
Tittytwister69
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but the RH is 60% why would I burp the jars?
cat of curiosity
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so it doesn't smell like hay, so it cures, so it continues to (slowly) dry, and so it doesn't smell like hay.
Tittytwister69
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I'm sorry but I'm just confused. I thought the purpose of burping was to bring the RH down to the right level (55%-65%). If my RH is in that range then I don't understand why I should continue burping and allow more RH to escape? Thanks.
cat of curiosity
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your bud will have latent moisture in the stems that will wick out into the bud/leaf of your product, making it feel 'wet'. that means it isn't dry/cured. humidity climbs in the jars.
there are chemical changes taking place while still not completely dry, some gaseous. replacing the air in the jar helps to speed past the 'grass smell'.
a good practice is to open once a day and feel a few buds. if they are spongy and wet, leave the jar open for an hour or few, then close and check the next day.
do this daily until bud maintains a dry but not brittle texture. smell will be strain dependent, but it will smell like pot, not hay.
Tittytwister69
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So even if my bud reads 60%, it'll eventually reach over 65% when stabilized but degradation is occurring even though it hasn't reached that number yet? A proper, stabilized RH should be reached as soon as possible?
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So I have a quick question. I'm curing my crop in jars with boveda packets (49%). Will this work? Also, if RH is 45-55 should I still burp the jars?
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I don't use Bovida packs yet so I have no advice to offer regarding that. Personally though, I'd still burp em. The first few times you do it, your releasing small portions of chlorophyll (veggie greeny smells) from the jar until the minute traces of moisture from within the buds can permiate the dried bud material releasing the good smells and lining you up for a proper cure in the jars.
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HydroRed said: ↑
I don't use Bovida packs yet so I have no advice to offer regarding that. Personally though, I'd still burp em. The first few times you do it, your releasing small portions of chlorophyll (veggie greeny smells) from the jar until the minute traces of moisture from within the buds can permiate the dried bud material releasing the good smells and lining you up for a proper cure in the jars.
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Indacouch
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When you first start curing like he mentioned above you can literally feel the warmth/moisture in your buds and regardless what your meter says you need to either open the jars and air that excess moisture out or I like to dump them into a table covered in paper for a while until they feel dry again ....then back into your cure container......once you get most of the moisture wicked out from the center your buds will feel dry but not crispy .....that's when you want to watch your meter and do your simple burps ....or that's how I do it ..........but I myself dry then I go into paper grocery bags with the tops folded over before jars it makes it easier to dump the buds to relieve excess moisture ....then I go to jars ...that's just me GL
Nyan Rapier
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They'll start to smell less with longer cure. Just open your jar or container everyday to let out moisture. It sucks ass once you finally harvest and have to dry and cure for 4 or 5 weeks, but it'll be worth it.
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Indacouch
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Yeah most new growers are so excited for harvest day until they realize trimming actually sucks ass and that half the battle is still to come ....I've seen people grow great smoke just to lose or mess it up at the dry cure stage ......welcome to growing lol
Tittytwister69
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I've read endless threads on this topic, believe me. It's just that it's so confusing, as there are a 1,001 explanations; as I'm sure you're already aware, there are many people on cannabis forums who tend to speak out their ass. This is the purpose of asking here, in the hope that someone with real insight might finally provide a clear explanation as to what is at the root of this all too common hay smell.
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cat of curiosity
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if it smells like hay, it's too wet. i promise
unless it was harvested a month or more too early...
Indacouch
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Not the best example but this may help you understand .....walk out in your lawn take a big whiff of air .....then mow your lawn take another big whiff of air ......by cutting the grass you've released all the wetness and smell out of it ......now take that same grass you just cut put it in your big plastic garbage can after a few days when you open the lid you literally get hit with a hot moist air that smells like nasty cut grass ...........k so putting your freshly dried buds that still have moisture in them will do the same thing you have to release/control that excess moisture in the beginning and you can literally feel the buds are soft and feel the warm moist air in the jars ....that's when you need to set them out until they feel dry to the touch again .......
Tittytwister69
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I appreciate the example and do understand that it has legitimacy but you have you understand that I've read hours on this issue and what I'm trying to get at is the fine details, like does drying the outside of the bud too much and then rehydrating with moisture within stem (even to proper curing RH) cause hay smell? What about drying at uneven RH (say 3 days of 40% and then a few days of 60%)? I've always understood that too much moisture causes bud to spoil but I need to know exact procedure, as the devil is in the details. Broad suggestion hasn't been cutting it for me, and not for many other people, apparently. Regardless, I do appreciate you guy's input.
What I gather from Cat Of Curiosity is that bud spoilage occurs if bud is too wet, regardless if the RH within the jar is currently sub-65%. I find this rather profound, as my strategy up to this point had been to remove buds only once they creep up to 65%, ie they remained in jar for extended periods. What he seems to be suggesting is that reaching proper cure RH should be done as fast as possible.
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cat of curiosity
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yes
40-60, still need to burp daily for a couple weeks for an hour or few or until 'dry feeling' again, and every other day for a few months after that. if you don't burp jars of fresh wet pot, it will indeed rot.
you still need to get excess moisture out. a jar closed for a day of fresh dry pot will sweat out moisture, raising humidity, and making product soggy feeling. the hay smell goes away after you get most of this moisture out and start getting a fully dried product (where internal moisture is evenly distributed).
if it smells like hay, let it air out until it feels dry again. bet it smells different once it has that crisp feel... good luck
714steadyeddie
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My bud smelt like hay / grass. But I think I harvested way to early, then dried in too hot conditions.
If you think you had the perfect conditions and harvested at the right time, then just wait another 2 weeks.
You're only 3 weeks since chop,
Just wait it out trust !. Keep Burping the jars. I rushed everything way to quickly
Tittytwister69
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So your buds never recovered their smell?
714steadyeddie
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No they didn't.
I would listen to this guys. Curing is really the most important part