ttystikk
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Lots of makers of dry nutrient salts, just gotta look around your area.
Jacks (JR Peters) nutrients
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GroErr
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None that I've found, it's available direct on their web site or the odd listing on e-Bay.
Flowki
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Any alternatives of same quality?. Can only find organic solids or synthetic liquid.
the jacks palm is an option so can use a liquid cal nitrate along side it?.
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GroErr
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Not sure, haven't spent a lot of time looking though. I use very little indoor like 500 ppm feeds every 3rd watering and use AN A&B but their 4L jugs last me months and I can buy it locally so no shipping. I'd read that there were several people using Jack's Citrus with good results so wanted to try it. Using it start to finish for my outdoor plants and they're liking it so far. I'm just giving them low feeds 1/4 tspn. per gallon every watering (tap water) in veg (nothing else, no cal-mag or the like), no signs of defs, good colouring and fast/lush growth so it seems to work well, at least in veg. Just wish they had some retailers up here, would be really cheap without the shipping.
boostedhonda
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1 gram per gallon gives u about 120 ppm, order online directly from jr peters
Woyaboy
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Damn, wish I'd read this sooner. I burned the ever living FUCK outta my plant using full strength for not ONE but TWO waterings....I'm surprised she's still going, thing looks crispy like fried chicken, but the buds are still nice looking so I am hunkering in. Yea, I only use 1/4 jacks for watering now, seems to be doing ok. I also add 1 tsp of Cal/Mag to each watering.
Pat666
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I'm looking to switch to new nutrients brand and I'm curious about jacks I've browsed thru this thread but haven't found what I'm looking for. I'm wondering what to use of jacks products for hydro grow? Also will I need additional additives or is there a line that's complete for veg and then for bloom? Thanks for any help
Morbid Angel
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jacks has a 5-11-26 that your looking for.
Pat666
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Ok cool does it have a specific name and would that be used for Veg or Flower. Thanks for letting me know
Morbid Angel
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Pat666
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My dumbasss didn't realiE that was a link so I had to edit this post after I realized Anyway thanks again I'm gonna have to do some Redding on it. Does the package explain ratio per gal to use? I'm ignorant when it comes to Nutes. I currently just follow instructions on bottle trying to learn more but find it confusing and overwhelming to many smoke sessions during science class
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MisterBlah
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/adding-cal-to-jacks.911476/#post-12675437My dumbasss didn't realiE that was a link so I had to edit this post after I realized Anyway thanks again I'm gonna have to do some Redding on it. Does the package explain ratio per gal to use? I'm ignorant when it comes to Nutes. I currently just follow instructions on bottle trying to learn more but find it confusing and overwhelming to many smoke sessions during science class
Pat666
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Awesome that's super Helpful thank you
ttystikk
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No idea, but you should be looking at calcium nitrate anyway.
So calnit is ok to use with regular soil mix? I've been looking into international ag labs high brix growing. I think their philosophy can really be tailored to any style of growing the key thing is they break the type of nutrients down into "growth"and "reproductive" periods.
Nitrate, calcium and potassium are primarily growth oriented.
Ammonium, urea, sulfates, phosphates, and organic nutrients are primarily reproductive oriented.
So during veg growth you want higher calcium and nitrate and during flower set you want higher ammonium/urea and sulfates. Once flowers are set you switch back to growth to add bulk. So for example the initiation of flowering hit em with ammonium/urea based nitrogen and epsom salt (sulfate), then switch back to nitrate/calcium once flowers are set.
They have 2 different calcium oriented foliars they use with kelp depending on the period.
But anyway I'm trying to mentally put together a couple of soil based formulas based on those principles not sure how feasible it is though.
Uberknot
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I use these 3 mixed atm and adjust to get the ratio I want also have some cal/mag, fish/kelp, and silica
Jacks Acid
Total Nitrogen (N)......................17%
10.58% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
6.42% Urea Nitrogen
Available Phosphate (P2O5) .........6%
Soluble Potash (K2O) ...................6%
Sulfur (S) ....................................14% 14.0% Combined Sulphur (S)
Boron (B).................................0.02%
Copper (Cu)............................0.05% 0.05% Chelated Copper (Cu)
Iron (Fe) ..................................0.30% 0.30% Chelated Iron (Fe)
Manganese (Mn).....................0.05% 0.05% Chelated Manganese (Mn)
Molybdenum (Mo)..............0.0009%
Zinc (Zn)..................................0.05% 0.05% Chelated Zinc (Zn)
Jacks Bloom
Total Nitrogen (N)................................. 10%
5% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
5% Nitrate Nitrogen
Available Phosphate (P2O5) .................. 30%
Soluble Potash (K2O) ............................ 20%
Magnesium (Mg) ............................... 0.50% 0.50% Water Soluble Magnesium (Mg)
Boron (B)............................................ 0.02%
Copper (Cu)....................................... 0.05% 0.05% Chelated Copper (Cu)
Iron (Fe) ............................................. 0.10% 0.10% Chelated Iron (Fe)
Manganese (Mn)................................ 0.05% 0.05% Chelated Manganese (Mn)
Molybdenum (Mo)......................... 0.0009%
Zinc (Zn)............................................. 0.05% 0.05% Chelated Zinc (Zn)
Jacks Palm
Total Nitrogen (N) ..................... 16%
4% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
5.4% Nitrate Nitrogen
6.6% Urea Nitrogen
Available Phosphate (P2O5) ......... 5%
Soluble Potash (K2O) ................. 25%
Magnesium (Mg) ......................... 1% 1% Water Soluble Magnesium (Mg)
Sulfur (S) ...................................... 7% 7% Combined Sulfur (S)
Boron (B)................................. 0.02%
Copper (Cu)............................ 0.05% 0.05% Chelated Copper (Cu)
Iron (Fe) .................................. 0.10% 0.10% Chelated Iron (Fe)
Manganese (Mn)..................... 0.05% 0.05% Chelated Manganese (Mn)
Molybdenum (Mo).............. 0.0009%
Zinc (Zn).................................. 0.05% 0.05% Chelated Zinc (Zn)
All Mixed
N (17+10+16)/3 = 14.3
Ammoniacal Nitrogen 6.53%
Nitrate Nitrogen 3.47%
Urea Nitrogen 4.34%
P (6+30+5)/3 = 13.7
K (6+20+25)/3 = 17
Mg (1+.5+.5)/3 = .67
S (14+7)/3 = 7
B .02
Cu .05
Fe (.3+.1+.1)/3 = .17
Mn .05
Mo .0009
Zn .05
LamontCranston
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Super Lemon Haze day 25, Sweet Tangerine day 30, Fruity Pebble OG day 30. Grown under 315 CMHs with Jack's Citrus. =) Thanks Rollitup for all the info, I figured at the very least I owe you guys some photos.
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Woyaboy
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If you don't mind me asking when do you start feeding them to Jack's? And how much do you feed initially? I've been wanting to do a Jacks run from seed to flower but I'm just unsure of when to start actually nuting them.
LamontCranston
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Depends on your medium. I use Fox Farms Ocean Forest throughout my veg cycle, and begin applying Jacks during flowering. I only apply 1 tablespoon of Jack's Citrus per 5 g of water maybe once every third watering, every other if a girl seems hungry. I use a couple other additives that I am having trouble letting go of, I know they are probably useless. =p I don't know how much you would apply to a seed, probably not more than 200 ppm and only if your medium doesn't have a lot of nutrients in it to begin with.