Flushing water?

[A.K.A. Overgrowem]

You don't need to flush at all man. You're problem is that you are over fertilizing and not curing long enough. Thats why your weed burns like rice crispies

snap crackle and pop

Only an early crop. Not in the last 12 years.

 

[Gary Goodson]

That's what I'm asking. Is there a method, trick, product,etc,?

That was my point. You're already feeding water only. What are ya gonna do, pour more water on it? You won't be able to rid the soil of anything that is in it.

So it is pointless to flush

 

[Resinhound]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_additives_in_cigarettes
I would not smoke tobacco, with what I know. I do not want my flowers to be just like tobacco. The same is happening with cannabis in legal states, big grows using anything to try and get a little more weight, and it show in the testing of the dried plant material.

As usual, this is the usual counter argument to this. And it doesn't have anything to do with the question at hand of course. Yes all kinds of crap is put on commercial fields, and not just tobacco. The point is wether flushing creates a smoother smoke or not, not how many carcinogens are used on the fields. I'm sure there are fields of tobacco grown somewhere in the world that don't use these chemicals and the fact is those aren't flushed either.

Bottom line, no one can provide any evidence of any other crop being flushed, it's a Bullshit cannabis only process meant to get the product into plastic baggies for sale as fast as possible.

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

I have heard a lot about it being a myth. Its so crazy how much info there is about flushing out there. That makes things easier.

try finding a single shred of info about flushing pre 1974 & you'll fall off google lol

the concept of flushing was introduced to check mailing nit wits about 1974 in high times magazine,in an article written by nutrient company idiots,they used lots of big buzz words & showed lots of high rez pics(0.000.000 megapixs ) explaining why "they discovered" plants must be flushed,an it just so happened the same swelled brains that discovered flushing also created the magic sauce needed to " properly " flush,and could be yours for a 1 time low introductory price of #":°€¥£©®,COD add 90% for processing & handling

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

as an added blast from the past ordering mj gear in the 1970's was the same as buying porno,you'd send your $9.99 check made out to " Fast Bobs Marijuana supply INC " ,then wait 6 months for your shit to show up in the usual "plain brown rapper" the mailmen all knew was porno or dope gear,then either jerked off to your porn,or said fuk it & stole your weed gear.

Nobody,and I mean nobody went to their bank & complained bobs weed emporium ripped them off,so most the shit in the back of high times ripped everybody off.

 

[testiclees]

How is it not a related Test? Taste? End product taste testing would apply perfectly to this science factoid!

Are you saying that because the plant changes in differing environs will skew the test?

Like I said. It's end product taste testing! Flushed vs NOT........It's been done with tobacco products for years and it's found to be the same (Brain response to given task) No correlation there?

Its not related because we know that there is a known variable you thick headed motherfucker. In the food example people are given the exact same item.

 

[testiclees]

try finding a single shred of info about flushing pre 1974 & you'll fall off google lol

the concept of flushing was introduced to check mailing nit wits about 1974 in high times magazine,in an article written by nutrient company idiots,they used lots of big buzz words & showed lots of high rez pics(0.000.000 megapixs ) explaining why "they discovered" plants must be flushed,an it just so hiappened the same swelled brains that discovered flushing also created the magic sauce needed to " properly " flush,and could be yours for a 1 time low introductory price of #":°€¥£©®,COD add 90% for processing & handling

You sound like a fucking hystetical lout aping some asshole stoner knowledge.

 

[testiclees]

You don't need to flush at all man. You're problem is that you are over fertilizing and not curing long enough. Thats why your weed burns like rice crispies

snap crackle and pop

By flushing do you mean the practice of innudating the pots with some formula of so many gallons of water in relation to the size of the pot? Or would you consider withholding nutrients a form of flushing?

 

[Gary Goodson]

By flushing do you mean the practice of innudating the pots with some formula of so many gallons of water in relation to the size of the pot? Or would you consider withholding nutrients a form of flushing?

If I'm feeding synthetic ferts in soil I do like to water as normal at the end, but at 1/4 strength. Never do I pour 3 times the amount on my plants.

If I'm running water only organics, I just water as normal.

 

[testiclees]

If I'm feeding synthetic ferts in soil I do like to water as normal at the end, but at 1/4 strength. Never do I pour 3 times the amount on my plants.

If I'm running water only organics, I just water as normal.

Ya, i would't flood my pots. On these last few plants i withheld the light doses of ferts that i would normally give up until the last week. I think it made a difference and i am gonna repeat this round. My soil holds some available nutrition but its nothing like water only.

 

[Gary Goodson]

Ya, i would't flood my pots. On these last few plants i withheld the light doses of ferts that i would normally give up until the last week. I think it made a difference and i am gonna repeat this round. My soil holds some available nutrition but its nothing like water only.

When I hear the term "flushing" I do automatically think 15 gallons of water being poured in a 5 gallon pot. Maybe we should try to separate the 2 because I have no issues with folks lowering the ferts or even going water only.

Same with defoliating, I always think of some poor plant with no fan leaves on it. When the person could just be talking about selective pruning(which I also don't have a problem with)

I guess it's the 2 extremes that get me.

 

[KryptoBud]

Aw, I missed all the fun and name calling,,,DAMN!



Some years ago, it was observed by a food maker in testing that people would find a difference in testing their new products. Even if the product was the same in all testing! They asked several well know Universities why this maybe happening. Several of the Universities Physc dept's took up the question.

It was found that given the task to find a difference. The brain would find one, even if none existed!

Now look at applying that finding, to how many would to smoking flushed or unflushed. Beginning to understand my point?
To even challenge that idea of a difference. It would have to be a dbl blind study. You could not know what was what and that all your question would be was "What do you think" of each one. There would have to be at least 2 of each, and you could never know which one your testing, or for what your testing it for. They would have to each be presented at least 6 times and in various orders/combinations

Finding a difference is easy - the brain is hardwired TO find one! Even if it's not there!

BTW.......In the HT cups, they have a rating for "flush" in the judging. Unflushed, but well cured has won cups! The presenters, or growers - don't tell them it's not when submitted !!

I'm not saying "your wrong" ! Only supplying you with actual science on the subject. With that in hand, you maybe able to reach a more informed understanding.

As always, please do what makes YOU happy when you grow !

Placebo effect: Also called the placebo response. A remarkable phenomenon in which a placebo -- a fake treatment, an inactive substance like sugar, distilled water, or saline solution -- can sometimes improve a patient's condition simply because the person has the expectation that it will be helpful. Expectation to plays a potent role in the placebo effect. The more a person believes they are going to benefit from a treatment, the more likely it is that they will experience a benefit.

 

[Indacouch]

I've never had anybody tell me ......hey Man U didn't flush when they smoke my medicine ....never ever ......and flushing falls into the placebo category for me .....big named companies telling you it works and they have just the stuff to sell you .......look at a fox farms feeding chart there trying to sell you there flush for the end ...it's a marketing gimmick..........I myself towards the end am using just molasses in my water to feed the soil and then plain water the last few times .....but not any large amounts of water ...and what I do isn't considered flushing ......IMO ......when you want to flush it's the little chrome handle on the left after your done wiping your ass .....that's if you wipe your ass but that's a whole other issue/topic

 

[Indacouch]

Placebo effect: Also called the placebo response. A remarkable phenomenon in which a placebo -- a fake treatment, an inactive substance like sugar, distilled water, or saline solution -- can sometimes improve a patient's condition simply because the person has the expectation that it will be helpful. Expectation to plays a potent role in the placebo effect. The more a person believes they are going to benefit from a treatment, the more likely it is that they will experience a benefit.

Really placebo also Lol. wtf I can't catch a brake today with posting shit

 

[Bbcchance]

Just catch some rain water, Never seen it above 8 pmm. takes the uncertainty out of it. Tap water here runs around 370 ppm. good for nothing.

The rain water here has low ppm but tests acidic, joys of city life!

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

You sound like a fucking hystetical lout aping some asshole stoner knowledge.

please add another 6 pages to your SIG you post twice & that wall of gibberish fills an entire page

you called me a " lout " lmfao

 

[bgmike8]

Dude. All you have to do is run your plants through the carwash. This will remove all the toxins in the flesh of the plants.

I see people who swear by flushing but none of them can tell you how it works biologically.

I sprayed 1200 ppm nutes right on the fucking roots of my plants. I turned the pump off aprox. 1 minute before I started chopping.

I dried for 7 days. I cured for 3 weeks. I have compliments. I have repeat business. I smoke some in a hitter. It doesn't crackle. It tastes good.

So why the hell would I flush? There certainly isn't any science to it.

Because Billy says to do it? Because Jimmy has been flushing for ten years and his shit tastes good? My shit tastes good.

 

[bgmike8]

Seriously. I over nuted. I over lighted. I ran low on cal mag. Why isn't my shit crackling? . Why does it taste good? Why do people say it's good and want more? There's plenty of dope around.

 

[testiclees]

Placebo effect: Also called the placebo response. A remarkable phenomenon in which a placebo -- a fake treatment, an inactive substance like sugar, distilled water, or saline solution -- can sometimes improve a patient's condition simply because the person has the expectation that it will be helpful. Expectation to plays a potent role in the placebo effect. The more a person believes they are going to benefit from a treatment, the more likely it is that they will experience a benefit.

Hey youre regular fucking research scientist except when a variable is changed placebo cant be the explanation dr dolt.

 

[testiclees]

Seriously. I over nuted. I over lighted. I ran low on cal mag. Why isn't my shit crackling? . Why does it taste good? Why do people say it's good and want more? There's plenty of dope around.

"Ran low on cal mag," fuck no you cant do that clown socks.