1 plant dwc scrog

Anon Emaus

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Your grow loold wicked bro.can be leave it took so long in flower?
I done the same thing as you and flipped early now I'm 8 weeks fom seen and.....well...see for your self. Super small baby original ammo. I started germination under 125 cfl then moved her to a little scrog tent put her under a old mars 300 and there is shut load of flower heads forming but she is 10inch tall and only that in diameter???? What ls your projections??? Feeding her 2l once a week in 11 litre pot with ionic soil bloom 1ml per 2l &green fuse bloom 2ML per 2l
Also calmag 2ML every water. The question I want to know the most is my leaves are very dark green??? I have no visible deficiency so I'm not sure what her problem is. It might be the led??? I did over water awhile back but since only 1 per week 1 quarter or the pot size. Slow growing/normal for his strain under simular setup??? Difficult to compare since I can't find anyone doing the same setup as me. Yours was the closest in regard or strain/scrogg/flipped to early ext: any Ideals??? I'm considering pulling her and throwing a bruce banner #3 in there??????? Decisions decisions??
I really like amnesia it is proper strong shits but if she's struggling them I might have to cut my losses.
Right, that thing flowered for ages! Has yours shown signs of flower, and when was it? I'd say don't give up on her, she'll stretch for a long time and a lot once she matures. Keep in mind I am in DWC so you can't quite compare my time line to yours as mine would be much quicker in water vs dirt.
Maybe it's just the LED causing it to look dark, if no other symptoms are showing I wouldn't worry, sometimes I have leaves looking darker than normal but it never comes of anything. Put as much light as you can on her, light is really the biggest factor you can use to influence your size. Throw some CFL's or anything in there and let her keep going.
 

Anon Emaus

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Why cut her down? I can't make the photos larger at the moment but by the small thumbnail I see, I say she looks ok, just keep tucking to fill out the screen and see where you end up. Maybe bring the light closer too since LEDs run cool. The other thing to consider is maybe size pot. The bigger the pot, the bigger the plant- so you could try seeing sizes of plants from other people with 3gallon pots. Did you top her when she was vegging or just stick her straight under the screen, cause topping is supposed to encourage bushiness as well.

Lastly horribleherk might be able to provide some insight, he's saying anon may have too much Nitrogen in his plants since they are very green for their stage in flower, since your leaves are very dark green look for the classic telltale sign of the "hook" on some of your leaves. You could always cut back on nutes for a week and see how he plant responds. Make sure your not overwatering or overfertilizing also do you Ph your water?
ohh yeah that's right and the pot size thing! I always forget about that one because I'm always in water. Also duh, some topping would help bush her up some more as well!
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I believe there is more nitrogen in blooming nutes? Since you flipped early and she's not ready to flower yet and your giving bloom nutes that could cause an excess of nitrogen. If you don't have the curl at the tip though then prolly not worth chasing it as it may come of nothing.
 

Anon Emaus

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I was foliage spraying her almost from day dot a few times a day with 1ml nitrozyme but did the same with other plants and no problem?? Haven't sprayed for over a week. I have got froth and loads if potential bud sites but very slow goth. I reported her from a 1 gal to a 3gal and used diffrent soil. First I used light mix terra and transplanted when the roots hot the bottom in to the 3gal using heavy mix biobizz and by accident fed her nutrients as well??thay was about 3/4week ago. I thought once I flipped her after 43days from seed she would fill out quicker?? Well I flipped her 10days ago and minimal growth....I'm puzzled if any good sumarutan on ther day off could help me figure out what's going in it would make my day thanks.
If you flipped 10 days ago then DO NOT GIVE UP. That girl will triple is size once she starts showing preflowers. That is when all the growth will happen and a ton of it. Get as much light on her as you can and give her time.
 

kaydeezee

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After considering Alot of great advice I decided to flush the little ammo because my partner planted her whilst I was doing amother project. She told me she may have packed the soil to tight? OK so I was like that might make sense' might be the reason she is growing so slow she might have toxicity problems at the roots?? I'm going to check the bottom of the pot????????? Well I think I may have descoverd the problem. The dranage holes had been cut to small and there had been some perlite stuck in almost all the holes stopping the off run wich in turn will make my baby get nut lockout right guys???? FLUSH TO BE SAFE???
 

Anon Emaus

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After considering Alot of great advice I decided to flush the little ammo because my partner planted her whilst I was doing amother project. She told me she may have packed the soil to tight? OK so I was like that might make sense' might be the reason she is growing so slow she might have toxicity problems at the roots?? I'm going to check the bottom of the pot????????? Well I think I may have descoverd the problem. The dranage holes had been cut to small and there had been some perlite stuck in almost all the holes stopping the off run wich in turn will make my baby get nut lockout right guys???? FLUSH TO BE SAFE???
Unfortunately I'm too unfamiliar with soil growing but I'm sure herk and dlowsky will be able to help there!
 

kaydeezee

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Flushed 30l through her untill the water was mildly discoloured, the ec run off was 730ppm??? Well mine actually says us but anyway I think it gives me a ec reading of about 0.7 I think???
See how she goes after a few days then I will feed her IONIC bloom 7ml per litre.. that reminds me I wad told when I started growing that my plants will only need 1 litre every water/feed?? So I did that for whole first grow then and winder why I onlt pulled 12oz from 4 master kush when my friend who was growing the same strain pulled 20oz 4 plants and he fed the same nutrient line as me in the same order as me???? Was always underwater them. I now grow in 3gal pots/11litre and water 2.5 litre a feed because I read that you should water your plants 1 quarter the size of the pots. So does that mean I also have to double the amount of nutrients I normally give them????? Maybe this is the reason for my small yeilds??? I never have deficiency or temp problems so maybe???
 

Dlowsky

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You got to read what your feeding schedule says for example:

If you got a bloom feed that says 1ml per Liter
Then you add 2.5ml to the mix since your using 2.5 liters, don't double up on nutes unless you wanna burn your plants.

When I did that grow in soil there's three indicators to look for when you want to water next-

1.when the soil feels dry down past the first knuckle (a bit more than a fingertip)
2.if the plant itself is looking a bit dry/droopy/ thirsty
3. If the pot feels light (it will be a lot heavier when you just added water and lighter when the plant has drank up all the water)

Also look up what ideal EC and PH in soil are,
For hydro I was told an EC OF 1.6-2.2
and Ph of 5.8-6.2 although a bit lower is fine too I like to get it down to 5.5-5.6 sometimes cause the PH rises as it cycles thru the plants system, clay pebbles/rockwool, and the reservoir

But the numbers are a bit different for soil

And of course make sure your draining properly.... It could pose a problem if you got stagnant water drowning out your roots :hug:
 

Anon Emaus

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I agree looks like a magnesium deficiency, nowt to worry about, get some calmag and all will be gravy. 8-)
Thanks for the input man! I posted over in plant problem thread and from everyones input here and there I come to realize this was probably my fault from being neglectful of PH lately and causing lockout. I gotta stay more on top of the PH from now on and that should help. Also flushed my system and added some cal mag to be safe.
 

kaydeezee

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Well she pulled through and the ammo looks Alot better now boys and girls..4weeks since I flipped her so I think she is a few weeks behind so Im looking at a 12 week plus on this girl in the picture. I also just seeded a BRUCE BANNER pheno & NORTHENEXPRESS both autos so I will have a nice curing collection going into the new year lol

Here is my baby cheese 1week older than the amnesia plant.hahaha
 

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kaydeezee

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Thanks guys, I have looked after her as much as I can ' my only bother is I could of let her go Alot longer in veg for a bigger canopy? 46days from seed gives me this so far so I'm happy because also I'm using led for the first time/soil diffrent/tent smaller/scrogg just for good measure lol. The only thing I'm using that I used before is the grow/flower nutriens.

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Not bad I think for a first scrog grow in a 60cmx140cm tent, I'm thinking I may even yeild couple ounce???? 50g dry???
 

Anon Emaus

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Thanks guys, I have looked after her as much as I can ' my only bother is I could of let her go Alot longer in veg for a bigger canopy? 46days from seed gives me this so far so I'm happy because also I'm using led for the first time/soil diffrent/tent smaller/scrogg just for good measure lol. The only thing I'm using that I used before is the grow/flower nutriens.

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Not bad I think for a first scrog grow in a 60cmx140cm tent, I'm thinking I may even yeild couple ounce???? 50g dry???
Yeah some more veg would get ya a bigger canopy, and more light. Not sure what u used for veg light? Nutes have the least effect on things really, in regards to different brands.

How many watts are you flowering with? Thatd give better idea of yeild, hard to tell scale in photo to guess. Looks really good tho, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I always think it looks a lot less on the plant than it turns out to be.
 

Anon Emaus

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Blue mystic is the first pic and Great White Shark is the second. Just finished 8 weeks in flower. Beautiful buds! Top buds are all cloudy trichs, so i cut away some top layer leaves to get light on the lower leaves and buds because they're all pale from being hidden down there.

I think Great White will have the weight advantage because it appears to have really compact tight, heavy, buds. Altho then again I think I may have more Blue Mystic cola's so we'll see!
 

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kaydeezee

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Thay look amazing man really good work!
I'm using 800watt led draw from wall is around 330 watts. I'm keeping them about 8/12 inch from my canopy and looking good is my bb cheese. The dinafem original ammo is under a 300watt marshydro old and is 10days younger than the cheese plant. She is very slow flowering but I don't have any visual deficiency??? Maybee she doesn't like the led??? I do have 600watt hps in abundance but not sure if it will run ok in a 60x60x140cm tent??? The hight isn't the issue it's the heat possible???
Maybe I should try and see??? What do you think ANON? ?? You can work out wich is wich lol
 

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