ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

tstick

tstick

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Looks really tasty, man!

I grew a strain called "Twizzler" on my last grow....It has a Tangie in its lineage...The smell and flavor is very much in the orange/tangerine kind of family. I really like that flavor. I'm hoping to grow it again within the next year. I'll be sure to make some ice wax and see how it turns out....probably make some of the lower grades into rosin.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
How to dab ice wax
1) Press out the granular hash and slice into individual dabs. I use a warm halen honey hole carb cap to press if finger heat is not enough.
2) Heat your nail
3) Wait for your nail to cool. I do 45 seconds for a halen honey hole
4) Dab
5) Assess quality
6) Qtip the nail clean

(3 will vary, a heart gun will help)
 

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tstick

tstick

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The Q-tip tip is typically unnecessary if you use a Ti nail or ladle (as I do) and dab real full melt extracts. I know you dab high quality @Matt Rize!

I understand that there is a certain expense to making really high quality dry sift, ice wax, etc. And I suppose that if you are looking for a specific flavor...and the flavor you happen to seek comes from low-yielding plants...then there is going to be some problems with supply and demand....At least I think that's what you were saying in that surprise appearance on Hash Church! ;)

I suppose a certain amount of the marijuana revival is going to end up relating to the connoisseur aspect -much like what has happened with fine wine. Me, I like a 20-40 dollar bottle of wine, but my brother owns a wine collection worth thousands! So there ya go....There's nothing "wrong" with expecting to get a lot of money for those hard-to-get bottles of wine. Also nothing wrong with expecting the same thing from quality marijuana.

The good thing is that we all can learn to make the same high quality hash as anyone else out there. If you do it all yourself from seed-to-dab, and you have the tasty plant genetics, then the reward will be there. TBH, I'd have a hard time selling the extracts I make for anything less than a ton of money, too. I'd rather keep and use what I make, myself.

I'm not sure what the future of super-high-end concentrates will be on a commercially-profitable level. Honestly though, I don't care....because I'm doing it all from seed-to-dab, regardless of what the commercial industry does.

Peace!
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
tstick said:
The Q-tip tip is typically unnecessary if you use a Ti nail or ladle (as I do) and dab real full melt extracts. I know you dab high quality @Matt Rize!

I understand that there is a certain expense to making really high quality dry sift, ice wax, etc. And I suppose that if you are looking for a specific flavor...and the flavor you happen to seek comes from low-yielding plants...then there is going to be some problems with supply and demand....At least I think that's what you were saying in that surprise appearance on Hash Church! ;)

I suppose a certain amount of the marijuana revival is going to end up relating to the connoisseur aspect -much like what has happened with fine wine. Me, I like a 20-40 dollar bottle of wine, but my brother owns a wine collection worth thousands! So there ya go....There's nothing "wrong" with expecting to get a lot of money for those hard-to-get bottles of wine. Also nothing wrong with expecting the same thing from quality marijuana.

The good thing is that we all can learn to make the same high quality hash as anyone else out there. If you do it all yourself from seed-to-dab, and you have the tasty plant genetics, then the reward will be there. TBH, I'd have a hard time selling the extracts I make for anything less than a ton of money, too. I'd rather keep and use what I make, myself.

I'm not sure what the future of super-high-end concentrates will be on a commercially-profitable level. Honestly though, I don't care....because I'm doing it all from seed-to-dab, regardless of what the commercial industry does.

Peace!
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I've only used Halen Honey Hole quartz for many years now, not a fan of the metal nails. Plus Joel Halen is good person and even spent the night with Cletus at my house. We used to just burn the nails clean, but I've found they oxidize slowly if wiped clean and not fire cleaned. To each their own, just trying to help others save their Quartz.

Regarding the price of hash in stores... All of the whole plant hash makers charge around the same price for their very best resin. Rez Heads, BAMF, Skunkwerks, Cuban and Exotic, Higher Ground, myself and others I forget, all have $200+ grams in stores. But most of our hash is in the $50 to $120 range at stores. Just check Weedmaps.

Anyone who finds this offensive has their head up their own ass regarding the cost of making hash from the best flowers (not trim), and obviously doesn't make whole plant hash for sale to stores.

Grams have (I hear) sold for up to $400 per gram in stores, but not advertised. Once, the store I work with misunderstood my invoice and presold 3 $400 grams. The patients got the surprise of only 200/g.

There is a market for exclusive rare melt that otherwise isn't worth producing commercially. If you love hash like I do, then you appreciate that the finest rarest resins are valued so highly by society. We are not the only ones who loves the finest rare melt, and not everyone wants to make their own. But if they do, we are here for them.
 
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Yodaweed

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Matt Rize said:
I've only used Halen Honey Hole quartz for many years now, not a fan of the metal nails. Plus Joel Halen is good person and even spent the night with Cletus at my house. We used to just burn the nails clean, but I've found they oxidize slowly if wiped clean and not fire cleaned. To each their own, just trying to help others save their Quartz.

Regarding the price of hash in stores... All of the whole plant hash makers charge around the same price for their very best resin. Rez Heads, BAMF, Skunkwerks, Cuban and Exotic, Higher Ground, myself and others I forget, all have $200+ grams in stores. But most of our hash is in the $50 to $120 range at stores. Just check Weedmaps.

Anyone who finds this offensive has their head up their own ass regarding the cost of making hash from the best flowers (not trim), and obviously doesn't make whole plant hash for sale to stores.

Grams have (I hear) sold for up to $400 per gram in stores, but not advertised. Once, the store I work with misunderstood my invoice and presold 3 $400 grams. The patients got the surprise of only 200/g.

There is a market for exclusive rare melt that otherwise isn't worth producing commercially. If you love hash like I do, then you appreciate that the finest rarest resins are valued so highly by society. We are not the only ones who loves the finest rare melt, and not everyone wants to make their own. But if they do, we are here for them.
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Thank you for putting your work out there, if more people were willing to share their knowledge the dispensaries would have a lot less hold over the concentrate bizz.
 
tstick

tstick

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The problem with wanting to get "the best" is that it's always going to cost more than "the next best" IF you buy it...So, if you want it, you have to pay the price...OR....learn to craft it, yourself.

I'm old enough to remember getting Afghan black hash that produced smoke that looked like it was coming off a kerosene lantern! I've seen Nepali temple balls that were bright green -neon green and had a consistency like Play-Doh! And, now, living in the Pac NW, I've seen just about every kind of extract you can name....Even after all that experience, there's still nothing that comes close to the experience of sowing a seed and hoping that it turns out to be some new flavor that you've never had before...growing that plant to maturity...harvesting...drying...extracting the resin...drying...curing...and finally dabbing it to get at that flavor...Buying hash of that quality would still be good an everything...but part of the fun is the actual "mad scientist" process it takes to make it. Like I said...I wouldn't feel good about selling any of my ice wax to just anyone....unless I was making serious profit.

Dab 'em if ya got 'em!

;)
 
Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

Dear ol" Thankful Grower!

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I did a bubble bag run with some outdoor trim but on the smallest micron there was what looked like mud so is there a way to prep your outdoor trim for hash without getting muddy crap mixed in the hash? I was gna try for a second one dince i huess the first one would be a rinse any thoughts?
 
cannakis

cannakis

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tstick said:
The Q-tip tip is typically unnecessary if you use a Ti nail or ladle (as I do) and dab real full melt extracts. I know you dab high quality @Matt Rize!

I understand that there is a certain expense to making really high quality dry sift, ice wax, etc. And I suppose that if you are looking for a specific flavor...and the flavor you happen to seek comes from low-yielding plants...then there is going to be some problems with supply and demand....At least I think that's what you were saying in that surprise appearance on Hash Church! ;)

I suppose a certain amount of the marijuana revival is going to end up relating to the connoisseur aspect -much like what has happened with fine wine. Me, I like a 20-40 dollar bottle of wine, but my brother owns a wine collection worth thousands! So there ya go....There's nothing "wrong" with expecting to get a lot of money for those hard-to-get bottles of wine. Also nothing wrong with expecting the same thing from quality marijuana.

The good thing is that we all can learn to make the same high quality hash as anyone else out there. If you do it all yourself from seed-to-dab, and you have the tasty plant genetics, then the reward will be there. TBH, I'd have a hard time selling the extracts I make for anything less than a ton of money, too. I'd rather keep and use what I make, myself.

I'm not sure what the future of super-high-end concentrates will be on a commercially-profitable level. Honestly though, I don't care....because I'm doing it all from seed-to-dab, regardless of what the commercial industry does.

Peace!
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Great information and read thanks!
Matt Rize said:
I've only used Halen Honey Hole quartz for many years now, not a fan of the metal nails. Plus Joel Halen is good person and even spent the night with Cletus at my house. We used to just burn the nails clean, but I've found they oxidize slowly if wiped clean and not fire cleaned. To each their own, just trying to help others save their Quartz.

Regarding the price of hash in stores... All of the whole plant hash makers charge around the same price for their very best resin. Rez Heads, BAMF, Skunkwerks, Cuban and Exotic, Higher Ground, myself and others I forget, all have $200+ grams in stores. But most of our hash is in the $50 to $120 range at stores. Just check Weedmaps.

Anyone who finds this offensive has their head up their own ass regarding the cost of making hash from the best flowers (not trim), and obviously doesn't make whole plant hash for sale to stores.

Grams have (I hear) sold for up to $400 per gram in stores, but not advertised. Once, the store I work with misunderstood my invoice and presold 3 $400 grams. The patients got the surprise of only 200/g.

There is a market for exclusive rare melt that otherwise isn't worth producing commercially. If you love hash like I do, then you appreciate that the finest rarest resins are valued so highly by society. We are not the only ones who loves the finest rare melt, and not everyone wants to make their own. But if they do, we are here for them.
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damn!!! That's crazy! Thanks for answering my question sorry I asked without reading further... but I mean damn! I thought 80 was a lot, 200!?!!!!
 
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