Growing in Michigan? Not for LONG!

Uberknot

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got ya . no caregivers . only patients . will fuck a lot of people over .
Caregivers are still valid they just won't be selling their pot to disp and will supply to the actual patients they have stated they are helping at the cost of helping them grow it, transporting,etc.

Pretty much this whole thing sets up a legal system in Michigan for growing and selling with rules and regulations for each part. Some people might not like the rules or regulations....that is a fact.

This is what it does. Medical Marihuana Facilities Licensing Act

A bill to license and regulate medical marihuana growers, processors, provisioning centers, secure transporters, and safety compliance facilities
 
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bryan oconner

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Caregivers are still valid they just won't be selling their pot to disp and will supply to the actual patients they have stated they are helping at the cost of helping them grow it, transporting,etc.

Pretty much this whole thing sets up a legal system in Michigan for growing and selling with rules and regulations for each part. Some people might not like the rules or regulations....that is a fact.

This is what it does. Medical Marihuana Facilities Licensing Act

A bill to license and regulate medical marihuana growers, processors, provisioning centers, secure transporters, and safety compliance facilities
THANK . for the info . i can real for hours and not understand anything . got it now . dispen low ball people in mi any ways from what i heard .
 

Dr. Who

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One more thing to consider if the supreme court thinks this law in any way shape or form infringes on patients rights and laws they will either overturn it and/or recommend certain sections be removed.

The other side is true as well if the Court decides that none of it effects the patients/caregiver laws as written it will stand.
Right! That's going to happen!
They (the state "supreme" court) has ruled against all cases that would have favored our point of view! Every single one!
 

Dr. Who

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not true. patients will be under the patient act and that has not changed.
that is all i care about lol . wow wee . i was like holy fuck what is a guy to do . go to a dispen pay 3 times as much for there product pulled 3 weeks to early . news i have found http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/09/08/medical-marijuana/90003264/ also i think this is a good law if it does not fuck with caregivers or patients . i know i would not mind paying a 3 % tax on profit if mi said i was 100 % legal to open a dispen . if it passe could be a great business for somebody . possible a dream job for some .
WRONG! Your still NOT GETTING IT!

To possess ANY MM it MUST have a chain of possession history to prove the "seed to sale" clause.....

Sure, they may not change the right to grow by a patient - it's part of what they maybe not be able to change.
BUT
They added that little possession thing and THAT they can change! IF you are caught with any MM NOT having that "proof" of legal origin. You'll get arrested for illegal marijuana because they will ONLY record and accept MM grown by the new legal grower system! The catch-22 situation! They have gone AROUND the patient act!
Back when this was being heard in committee, I was talking to lawyers on both sides of the fence on this. They all felt that this will be the end of home growing and that the bill was written by help from Schuttte TO go around the law and it's legal that way!
Be real! They have already changed the law so much it's stupid and the only thing left was cutting out the home grow!

Pull your head out of the ground people! (not pointing a finger at you directly Uber)
 

Uberknot

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WRONG! Your still NOT GETTING IT!

To possess ANY MM it MUST have a chain of possession history to prove the "seed to sale" clause.....

Sure, they may not change the right to grow by a patient - it's part of what they maybe not be able to change.
BUT
They added that little possession thing and THAT they can change! IF you are caught with any MM NOT having that "proof" of legal origin. You'll get arrested for illegal marijuana because they will ONLY record and accept MM grown by the new legal grower system! The catch-22 situation! They have gone AROUND the patient act!
Back when this was being heard in committee, I was talking to lawyers on both sides of the fence on this. They all felt that this will be the end of home growing and that the bill was written by help from Schuttte TO go around the law and it's legal that way!
Be real! They have already changed the law so much it's stupid and the only thing left was cutting out the home grow!

Pull your head out of the ground people! (not pointing a finger at you directly Uber)

patients are legally allowed to have seeds you are confusing the two acts.

reread and understand the legal terms all this applies if you want to sell cannabis.

really the only people who are totally effected here are care givers who were selling on the side.

they went after caregivers big time in this new act and reduced them to strictly being caregivers.

it does place strict guidelines on growers and what they have to do to grow and sell.

all cannabis sold at a disp must be tested before it can be sold.
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and now I am going to reread the act posted on the governments site again....just to make sure what the wording is....
 
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Uberknot

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(2) A grower license authorizes sale of marihuana seeds or marihuana plants only to a grower by means of a secure transporter.

so they can only sell seeds and plants to growers that means no seed sales or plants to anyone else.

It also means disp cannnot sell seeds or plants.

PART 5. LICENSEES 21 Sec. 501. (1) A grower license authorizes the grower to grow not more than the following number of marihuana plants under the indicated license class for each license the grower holds in that class:

(a) Class A – 500 marihuana plants.
(b) Class B – 1,000 marihuana plants.
(c) Class C – 1,500 marihuana plants.

H00012'15 * (S-6) CJC 1 A grower license authorizes sale of marihuana seeds or marihuana plants only to a grower by means of a secure transporter.

A grower license authorizes sale of marihuana, other than seeds, only to a processor or provisioning center.

A grower license authorizes the grower to transfer marihuana only by means of a secure transporter.

To be eligible for a grower license, the applicant and each investor in the grower must not have an interest in a secure transporter or safety compliance facility.

A grower shall comply with all of the following:
(a) Until December 31, 2021, have, or have as an active employee an individual who has, a minimum of 2 years' experience as a registered primary caregiver.

(b) While holding a license as a grower, not be a registered primary caregiver and not employ an individual who is simultaneously a registered primary caregiver.

(c) Enter all transactions, current inventory, and other information into the statewide monitoring system as required in this act, rules, and the marihuana tracking act.

A grower license does not authorize the grower to operate in an area unless the area is zoned for industrial or agricultural uses or is unzoned and otherwise meets the requirements established in section 205(1)
 
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Uberknot

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This is the disp rules. basically they have been limited to only selling cannabis end products.
They must also register every sale into a database of the state.
Nothing is allowed to be sold unless it is tested and labelled safe.
The Database will be used to monitor all patients and the amounts they buy. ( I won't be buying )

Sec. 504. (1) A provisioning center license authorizes the purchase or transfer of marihuana only from a grower or processor and sale or transfer to only a registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver.

All transfers of marihuana to a provisioning center from a separate marihuana facility shall be by means of a secure transporter.

A provisioning center license authorizes the provisioning center to transfer marihuana to or from a safety compliance facility for testing by means of a secure transporter. To be eligible for a provisioning center license, the applicant and each investor in the provisioning center must not have an interest in a secure transporter or safety compliance facility.

A provisioning center shall comply with all of the following:

(a) Sell or transfer marihuana to a registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver only after it has been tested and bears the label required for retail sale.

(b) Enter all transactions, current inventory, and other information into the statewide monitoring system as required in this act, rules, and the marihuana tracking act.

(c) Before selling or transferring marihuana to a registered qualifying patient or to a registered primary caregiver on behalf of a registered qualifying patient, inquire of the statewide monitoring system to determine whether the patient and, if applicable, the caregiver hold a valid, current, unexpired, and unrevoked registry identification card and that the sale or 53 H00012'15 * (S-6) CJC transfer will not exceed the daily purchasing limit established by the medical marihuana licensing board under this act.

(d) Not allow the sale, consumption, or use of alcohol or tobacco products on the premises.

(e) Not allow a physician to conduct a medical examination or issue a medical certification document on the premises for the purpose of obtaining a registry identification card.
 
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Uberknot

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There is nothing that applies to patients growing for themselves.

ALL of it applies to the production, transportation, inspection, and retail sales of all Cannabis Products
under the "medical marihuana facilities licensing act" by people who are licensed under the act.

This includes the tracking act as well which set up the system in which all of this must be monitored.

In other words this all sets up the legal market place in michigan and that's it.

It sets up specific guidelines and rules for only those people who are involved in it.

I have read through it all carefully a few times....this includes looking for any wording that would even subject me at all....there is none.

Now if you want to point me to the part of the act or amendments....please do.
 
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Sugarleafloni

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why not open a dispen for your self ? sounds like your a serious grower .
Lmao no no no nothing like that. But as much as I medicate that's prolly not a bad idea. Lol I'm from out west, I moved to Michigan before arizona had a mmj program. I grow only for myself. Cfls yeah!!! Lol
 
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Uberknot

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Even this wording will not stand up in court...if anyone tried to use it as a backdoor to arrest someone.


(b) "Marihuana" includes all of the following that are grown,processed, or sold for medical use as described in the Michigan medical marihuana act, 2008 IL 1, MCL 333.26421 to 333.26430, and the medical marihuana facilities licensing act:

(i) All parts of the plant Cannabis sativa L.
(ii) The seeds or seedlings of Cannabis sativa L.
(iii) The resin extracted from any part of Cannabis sativa L.
(iv) Every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture,or preparation of Cannabis sativa L. or its seeds or resin.
(c) "System" means the system for tracking marihuana established under section 3.


This only states a definition.
 
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Uberknot

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Secured transporter.....is not an armored truck....btw.

it's a secure delivery service and can be a van or other vehicle.

"Secure transporter" means a licensee that is a commercial entity located in this state that stores marihuana and transports marihuana between marihuana facilities for a fee.

Anyhow I am tired going to bed.....try not to get yourself all worked up. ;)
 
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Lucky Luke

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I dont live in America. And having diff laws for diff states is silly. It needs to be a federal law.

The law should be simple. A household can grow a certain amount of plants per person living there. Sales should be illegal.
Not enough tax in that of cause so it wont happen.
 

Vnsmkr

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I dont live in America. And having diff laws for diff states is silly. It needs to be a federal law.

The law should be simple. A household can grow a certain amount of plants per person living there. Sales should be illegal.
Not enough tax in that of cause so it wont happen.
Laws in Fuckedville are not simple by any means and they are all designed to Profit someone in some way. Fucking sad
 

Marijuana Mercenary

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No one will buy weed legally if it has the huge tax tobacco does. This law is as stupid as the weed swab. Getting a dui for using weed a day earlier is like getting a dui for being drunk yesterday.

Just a bunch of fucking crooks looking for even more reasons to throw people in jail and take their shit while still looking like the good guys.

This will fix nothing. Weed is not radioactive we don't need these stupid regulations either.
 
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