Hillary can't be trusted

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Fogdog

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Flaming Pie said:
Enforcing immigration law is not government intrusion. It is the government protecting the borders from illegal trafficking of heroin, weapons, and people.
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So in order to ferret out 11 million people in two years, how is that going to be done without intrusion?

The policy discussion is about catching and deporting people. When was heroin interdiction discussed? You are deflecting.
 
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rkymtnman said:
not much of a Holocaust scholar, but at the beginning of it, the Jews thought they were being relocated to concentration camps. They were able to pack 1 suitcase. sounds eerily like what Trump is suggesting.

thought we were supposed to learn from the past?
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Not similar at all. We will be removing violent criminals; who traffic heroin and weapons.
 
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Fogdog said:
So in order to ferret out 11 million people in two years, how is that going to be done without intrusion?
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They are going to enforce existing law.

The border states WANT the borders secure.

Did you know the border patrol endorsed trump? They say the wall is an important tool.
 
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Flaming Pie said:
They are going to enforce existing law.

The border states WANT the borders secure.

Did you know the border patrol endorsed trump? They say the wall is an important tool.
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I'm not talking about the border. Trump wants to expand the immigration police force by 10,000 people with the mission to find and deport 11 million peaceful and productive people. He said it would be done in two years. How can he get that done without search and seizures. How will they identify the illegals? What kind of identification will I have to carry so that I don't have to worry about being caught up in a sweep?
 
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Fogdog said:
I'm not talking about the border. Trump wants to expand the immigration police force by 10,000 people with the mission to find and deport 11 million peaceful and productive people. He said it would be done in two years. How can he get that done without search and seizures. How will they identify the illegals? What kind of identification will I have to carry so that I don't have to worry about being caught up in a sweep?
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...really?

Are you a legal citizen?

The police already know about large communities of illegals. Sanctuary cities.

A really important component of trumps plan is to make it very easy to verify citizenship electronically. It is illegal to hire illegals. Yet the companies rarely get the blame. The illegal is sometimes deported and then returns to the same job.

Source: my mexican-american mother-in-law. She also hates hillary.
 
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UncleBuck said:
no, he said 16 million deportations.

since there are only 10-11 million or so people living here illegally, that means about 5 million children of illegal immigrants who are citizens.

let's hope they don't mistake your kid for an anchor baby.
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Birth certificates, SSC, Medical records...
 
Fogdog

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Flaming Pie said:
...really?

Are you a legal citizen?

The police already know about large communities of illegals. Sanctuary cities.

A really important component of trumps plan is to make it very easy to verify citizenship electronically. It is illegal to hire illegals. Yet the companies rarely get the blame. The illegal is sometimes deported and then returns to the same job.

Source: my mexican-american mother-in-law. She also hates hillary.
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I am a legal citizen but your question is a valid one. Can I prove I'm a legal citizen if confronted by one of Trump's ICE warriors? What kind of ID would I have to produce? This all sounds intrusive to me.

I don't give a stinky shit about your MIL.
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Birth certificates, SSC, Medical records...
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Does your birth certificate have a valid photo ID of the baby? How can you prove that baby is the one on the certificate?
 
UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
Birth certificates, SSC, Medical records...
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let's hope you never lose them, even for a second.

if you are so neglectful that even your indoor, climate controlled buds get rotted out from mold, let's hope that the same doesn't happen to that birth certificate.

buy a fire proof safe while you're at it, if you can afford to do so on your hubby's $12 an hour wage.
 
Flaming Pie

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Fogdog said:
I am a legal citizen but your question is a valid one. Can I prove I'm a legal citizen if confronted by one of Trump's ICE warriors? What kind of ID would I have to produce? This all sounds intrusive to me.

I don't give a stinky shit about your MIL.

Does your birth certificate have a valid photo ID of the baby? How can you prove that baby is the one on the certificate?
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You wont be "confronted" unless you have commited a crime, applied for a job illegally, or were discovered to be illegal through a report.
 
Fogdog

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Flaming Pie said:
Weak.
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Not at all. This is the crux of the issue. Trump -- and your stupid ass MIL -- are talking about unleashing ten thousand ICE officers onto the public with the orders to find and detain 11 million people. They are spread out across the country and Trump's campaign promise is to deport them all within two years. How are they going to do this without some sort of standard citizenship ID?
 
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