WTF. Are y'all doing

Iloveskywalkerog

Well-Known Member
The suspiciously large first paycheck: how does this job scam work?
A reader asks about a close call with a con artist
04/15/2015 | ConsumerAffairs | Check Scams
By Jennifer Abel




Photo © NAN - Fotolia
If you're looking for work in this economy you know you must be careful, because there exist plenty of scammers, thieves and con artists using fake job offers or help-wanted postings as bait to hook new victims.


You should never trust any new “job” where your boss expects you to send money to him,or otherwise shell out any of your own money before you can expect to get paid – but you must also beware of any job where you get a check before actually doing any work to earn it.

Two common types of job scams nowadays are the “advance-fee” or “check-cashing” scam, where the scammers' goal is to steal money from you; and various money-laundering scams, where you unwittingly help the thief steal money from someone else — and might actually face criminal charges as a result.

Sounded perfect
This week we heard from a reader named Suzanne, who lives in Hawaii and is looking for part-time housecleaning work. She answered an help-wanted ad for a job which she thought sounded perfect – until her first payment set off her personal scam alarms:

Hi. I'm so glad I read the story you wrote. Last year I responded to a post on Craigslist for a job cleaning a house prior to a family's moving to Hawaii for the husband's new job, and as their maid 2-3x week. If I agreed to [the job] terms, I was to provide my full name and address so his accountant could send me a check prior to cleaning the house, so I could purchase products to clean it after I viewed it with the realtor. About a day and half later I received a check for almost $3,000 from some solar water heating company on the mainland .... It seemed very odd and I chose not to do anything with the check. Later the same day the person I had been communicating with through emails wanted to know if I had received my check in the mail. I then went back to the Craigslist post and found it to be "flagged". To be absolutely sure I asked the check cashing place I use to cash my checks to verify the check. They called the "bank" the check was written on and her call went to a voicemail. It turned out to be fraudulent, as I assumed initially. My question is: how would they make money from me?

ALOHA AND GOD BLESS, SUZANNE
 

Drowning-Man

Well-Known Member
The suspiciously large first paycheck: how does this job scam work?
A reader asks about a close call with a con artist
04/15/2015 | ConsumerAffairs | Check Scams
By Jennifer Abel




Photo © NAN - Fotolia
If you're looking for work in this economy you know you must be careful, because there exist plenty of scammers, thieves and con artists using fake job offers or help-wanted postings as bait to hook new victims.


You should never trust any new “job” where your boss expects you to send money to him,or otherwise shell out any of your own money before you can expect to get paid – but you must also beware of any job where you get a check before actually doing any work to earn it.

Two common types of job scams nowadays are the “advance-fee” or “check-cashing” scam, where the scammers' goal is to steal money from you; and various money-laundering scams, where you unwittingly help the thief steal money from someone else — and might actually face criminal charges as a result.

Sounded perfect
This week we heard from a reader named Suzanne, who lives in Hawaii and is looking for part-time housecleaning work. She answered an help-wanted ad for a job which she thought sounded perfect – until her first payment set off her personal scam alarms:

Hi. I'm so glad I read the story you wrote. Last year I responded to a post on Craigslist for a job cleaning a house prior to a family's moving to Hawaii for the husband's new job, and as their maid 2-3x week. If I agreed to [the job] terms, I was to provide my full name and address so his accountant could send me a check prior to cleaning the house, so I could purchase products to clean it after I viewed it with the realtor. About a day and half later I received a check for almost $3,000 from some solar water heating company on the mainland .... It seemed very odd and I chose not to do anything with the check. Later the same day the person I had been communicating with through emails wanted to know if I had received my check in the mail. I then went back to the Craigslist post and found it to be "flagged". To be absolutely sure I asked the check cashing place I use to cash my checks to verify the check. They called the "bank" the check was written on and her call went to a voicemail. It turned out to be fraudulent, as I assumed initially. My question is: how would they make money from me?

ALOHA AND GOD BLESS, SUZANNE
Yeah except they were from Canada
 

Drowning-Man

Well-Known Member
Wait you actually sent money to someone?
Lmao

Please tell us exactly what happened
No so this is how it went down. I was looking on Craigslist labor gigs for quick money sometimes people need help with yard work or moving furniture and they will post a cash offer to mow there lawn or something simple usually last minute stuff. Well I saw something for yard work and emailed them. Well I got a return email but was from a different email all together telling a story along the lines of the one above except they were from Canada and needed someone to clean there apt 2x a week for $400 dollars a week and they said they would mail me first week pay up front all they needed was my name number and mailing address, or they could deposit it if I had a account. And I'm dirt broke so all I saw was green. I sent them my account information for deposit. But they said they would send check they give me a UPS track number then a get a email stating keep 400 then deposit rest into a certain bank account for furniture for there apt for a furniture store I'm getting a wired feeling but all I see is green. I get the check and its $3900! from Florida but the return address is some dental hygiene place. So I get wierdedout and google the phone number its from Idaho but the email is from California still all I see is green I deposit the check and Chase puts a 2 day hold it. Long story short is they keep asking when I'll deposit the money its there now and I check and say no and start to get irritated cuz they're getting pushy then I get a blocked call but ignore cuz I'm getting reel paranoid at this point and get online and find out how the scam works. The bank is under federal law that they have to make check available within 2 days so they make funds "available" but its not really clears the account and can take a week for bank to find out its fake. By that time you withdrawd the money and sent it to them and when the bank finds out its fake they withdrew that amount overdraft and you are liable and ow that money. Well when I read about the scam I texted the number and said "I think this is a scam I'm calling the police and talking to the bank" so I think I'll just not touch the money so the bank can withdraw it no foul, but then I realized I gave them my account information! Fuck so I check my account balance and it was like $500 in the hole. The bank realized the fake and re withrew 3900 but not before I got jacked 500. Ran to the bank and found they can't do anything and I'm liable for the over draft. So I got fucked. I'm such a idiot. But you learn from your mistakes in just glad it wasn't 3900. I'll post the emails in a second. Don't go to hard on me guys please:*(
 

Big_Lou

Well-Known Member
No so this is how it went down. I was looking on Craigslist labor gigs for quick money sometimes people need help with yard work or moving furniture and they will post a cash offer to mow there lawn or something simple usually last minute stuff. Well I saw something for yard work and emailed them. Well I got a return email but was from a different email all together telling a story along the lines of the one above except they were from Canada and needed someone to clean there apt 2x a week for $400 dollars a week and they said they would mail me first week pay up front all they needed was my name number and mailing address, or they could deposit it if I had a account. And I'm dirt broke so all I saw was green. I sent them my account information for deposit. But they said they would send check they give me a UPS track number then a get a email stating keep 400 then deposit rest into a certain bank account for furniture for there apt for a furniture store I'm getting a wired feeling but all I see is green. I get the check and its $3900! from Florida but the return address is some dental hygiene place. So I get wierdedout and google the phone number its from Idaho but the email is from California still all I see is green I deposit the check and Chase puts a 2 day hold it. Long story short is they keep asking when I'll deposit the money its there now and I check and say no and start to get irritated cuz they're getting pushy then I get a blocked call but ignore cuz I'm getting reel paranoid at this point and get online and find out how the scam works. The bank is under federal law that they have to make check available within 2 days so they make funds "available" but its not really clears the account and can take a week for bank to find out its fake. By that time you withdrawd the money and sent it to them and when the bank finds out its fake they withdrew that amount overdraft and you are liable and ow that money. Well when I read about the scam I texted the number and said "I think this is a scam I'm calling the police and talking to the bank" so I think I'll just not touch the money so the bank can withdraw it no foul, but then I realized I gave them my account information! Fuck so I check my account balance and it was like $500 in the hole. The bank realized the fake and re withrew 3900 but not before I got jacked 500. Ran to the bank and found they can't do anything and I'm liable for the over draft. So I got fucked. I'm such a idiot. But you learn from your mistakes in just glad it wasn't 3900. I'll post the emails in a second. Don't go to hard on me guys please:*(

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Drowning-Man

Well-Known Member
Eugene Hardin <[email protected]>
To josh lawson


So far i just got a confirmation this morning that the check has cleared into your bank account kindly let me know when will you eb going to the bank to get the funds sent to the furniture company


josh lawson wrote:


As long as the check clears today I will do that

From: Eugene Hardin
To: josh lawson
Subject: WHAT TO DO WITH THIS MORNING


Hello Joshua,

Thanks once again for keeping me posted about the deposit of the check at your bank, after a detailed discussion with the supplier we have reached a consensus that the payment for the supplies of the furniture should be sent by cash deposit into her Bank of America account number so here is what to do this morning, You are to keep $450 in your account as salary and the rest withdraw the remaining money in cash then proceed to any Bank of America branch nearest to you to cash deposit it to the suppliers account information below:

Acct name; Adeleye Musbau
Acct number: 334038320198
As soon you have made the cash deposit at any Bank of America branch to the supplier information above, Get back to me with a photo of the cash deposit ticket/slip issued to you as confirmation of completion of your first assignment
Have a nice day as i await to hear from you.

josh lawson wrote:

Tryed to deposit check but my bank put a 2 day hold on it, so it will be a couple days before it clears and I can do anything with it.

From: Eugene Hardin
To: josh lawson
Subject: Re: FIRST ASSIGNMENT TOMORROW WEDNEDAY

Sorry got your voice mail when you have the check this morning you will deduct $450 for your pay then deduct $50 for buy the thing you will use to clean the house then the rest of the funds goes to the art work company and the furniture company.


I will get the name of the art work and furniture company so you will send the rest of the funds to them after the funds are made available withdrawal for you.

I will not be able to speak on the phone now.
josh lawson wrote:


Today is Wednesday check should be here today. So I should keep a total of $500? How much is the check total? I don't understand what you mean about artwork and furniture or any details about a art seller. I think you need to call me asap over the phone to clarify cuz there seems to be alot of misunderstanding by email. I don't have the details for any art seller. Please call me asap please thank you,
Joshua

From: Eugene Hardin
To: josh lawson
Subject: FIRST ASSIGNMENT TOMORROW WEDNEDAY


Hello Joshua,

How are you doing?.
The payment of will arrive to you on Wednesday morning through the US Postal Service ( UPS ) here is the shipping tracking number

*************

You can easily track the number by logging on to www.ups.com to know
when its coming on Monday morning.as soon as you have it kindly
proceed to your bank and deposit the check as soon as you receive it
today Thursday morning or You can have the check deposit via Mobile
deposit Online Deposit, ( You will log in your bank account online
access and have it deposit via mobile deposit to make all available
within 24hrs, ) and after that take out your first week's payment
which is $400 + $50 transportation allowance for 2 weeks and you
also going to deduct $50 which you should use in purchasing the things
(Groceries) you'll need for the cleaning Job on the list below.. The
rest which is supposed to be for food stuff,

We will prefer to get them when we arrived but
my husband has asked me to inform you that the balance payment should
be used for the payment of the furniture
that he already ordered. we have already chosen the kind of art and
house materials that would be nice for my family.

Can't just wait to meet you and again Please kindly get this handled
asap and buy cleaning supplies and also send the funds to the Art
seller to process the artwork delivery.. We would be so much happy if
you get this handle as we instructed and this transaction would also
grow a trusting and forward relationship with you and my family, I'm
sure you will really enjoy working for my family, if you do a good Job
within 4 months you start cleaning for us we will add up $50 to your
salary we would discuss about that when we arrive . Please you need to
email us as soon as you get this message..It is very important. I will
be awaiting your response this josh lawson <
joshualawson wrote:

When do you think you'll have the address for the apartment?


From: Eugene Hardin
To: josh lawson
Re: Craigslist posting


Yes it will be shipped tomorrow to deliver on Tuesday morning and i will send you instructions on Monday

josh lawson wrote:


Please notify me when check ships.


From: Eugene Hardin
To: Joshua Lawson
Subject: Re: Craigslist posting

your weekly salary would be
$400, actually we should have paid for more weeks but we will extend
the payment if we are satisfy with your service after a week. So my
husband finance would be needing the following Information to make out
the Bank Cashier Check:
Your Full Name
Address( Include apartment or floor number if any)
City:
State:
Zip code:
Phone #

Pay is via Cashier

Joshua Lawson wrote:

Hello here's the bank routing information you requested for direct deposit for the cleang job
Chase bank
Acc. Number:
ABA routing number:
Email, text or call me as soon as possible to let me know if I've been officially accepted for the job or not thanks,
, Eugene Hardin wrote

Re: Craigslist posting
To:Joshua Lawson

Hello Joshua,
I still have the cleaning
Position available, and sorry for our late
response . My name is( ANNE HARDIN) and My
husband's name is(EUGENE
HARDIN ), We
have a pretty 4 years Old daughter call Sarah and am
also expecting baby we are in Toronto CANADA.
We are all relocating to
your city in United
State on SEPt 22th 2016, My husband will be coming
there in your city in United State to work
on contract basis work,
Well we believe you
can do the cleaning for us anyway. You applied
for our cleaning Job Ad from craigslist.com We
need you to be cleaning
our apartment at
least 2 times in a week. So the Bedrooms Size will be
as follows: One of the bedrooms is
approximately 11' 11' and the
other one is 12'12', but will not be a
perfect square, so probably
closer to 100
square feet; it comfortably fits a full size bed, desk,
Armour and chest of drawers.... The apartment
will be large with
Dishwasher, Oven,
Microwave.etc.--Washer/Dryer --1 full bath 1 half
bath --central air and heat. The apartment will
occupies the entire
floor of the building
with direct access via the elevator, this is
exactly an apartment we asked the Real estate
agent to get for us in
your location the
apartment would be in your city so that will make it
easier for you to get to work on time We have
not pay full payment to
the Realtor until
when we about to arrived and then i will give you
the address then if you ready to be a part of
our Wonderful family.
We will be needing your services for 2hours at any
suitable time
of yours throughout for at
least 2 days in a week i hope two hours is
enough in cleaning 3bedroom house with one
master bedroom and two
standard size
rooms, with One Living room and a kitchen as well. I
believe you are fit for this position in as
much you will prove
yourself to be a
reliable and hard working person, Our arrival date
would be ( 29th 2016 ) Like i said, You will
help us to clean the
apartment in the
morning of our arrival date, My husband will tell the
estate agent to mail the keys to the apartment
to you as soon as it
ready may be you will
be able to clean it before we arrive. Also i
would like you to know that all Tools and
materials needed for the job
to make it
perfectly okay will be provided by us, We will be
spending
about 3 years for the contract job
or more we are not yet sure, so i
will be
needing your services for that time as well am satisfied
with
the services you rendered. We have a
financier that is based in the
states and he
will be handling the payment and some other expenses, so
he will be the one that will be taking care of
your payment, My
husband will instruct him
to pay $400 advance payment before our
arrival so as to secure your service , your
weekly salary would be
$400, actually we
should have paid for more weeks but we will extend
the payment if we are satisfy with your service
after a week. So my
husband finance would be
needing the following Information to make out
the Bank Cashier Check:
Your
Full Name
Address( Include apartment or
floor number if any)
City:
State:
Zip code:
Phone #
Pay is via Cashier check or
direct deposit,do you have a bank account? Yes/No
Please if you
know you really interested in this job kindly
email with above information to secure this
position because i have
someone else email
us regarding this job but i Haven't respond back
to the woman need to hear from you first. if
you send above details to
mail the payment
to you i will let the woman know the position is no
more avail.
Hope to hear from you sooner and kindly let me
know if you have
accepted our offer so that
we can forward your info to the financial
to
issue out the check as soon as possible . Remember our real
estate
agent still working on our apartment
and she said she would get back
to us with
the key and address as soon as our apartment is ready and
do not bother to reply this if you are not
honest and ready to work .
Thanks we would wait to hear from you.
Best Regards.
Eugene Hardin


Joshua Lawson wrote:
Hello I can help with yer moving
needs and or yer yard work my number is
979*******
 

Drowning-Man

Well-Known Member
Way you read the email thread is start from the bottom and work to the top. Bottom being oldest and top being newest. I edited my personal info out but if you'd like to email and troll this Nigerian fuck be my guest
 

Big_Lou

Well-Known Member
Eugene Hardin <[email protected]>
To josh lawson


So far i just got a confirmation this morning that the check has cleared into your bank account kindly let me know when will you eb going to the bank to get the funds sent to the furniture company


josh lawson wrote:


As long as the check clears today I will do that

From: Eugene Hardin
To: josh lawson
Subject: WHAT TO DO WITH THIS MORNING


Hello Joshua,

Thanks once again for keeping me posted about the deposit of the check at your bank, after a detailed discussion with the supplier we have reached a consensus that the payment for the supplies of the furniture should be sent by cash deposit into her Bank of America account number so here is what to do this morning, You are to keep $450 in your account as salary and the rest withdraw the remaining money in cash then proceed to any Bank of America branch nearest to you to cash deposit it to the suppliers account information below:

Acct name; Adeleye Musbau
Acct number: 334038320198
As soon you have made the cash deposit at any Bank of America branch to the supplier information above, Get back to me with a photo of the cash deposit ticket/slip issued to you as confirmation of completion of your first assignment
Have a nice day as i await to hear from you.

josh lawson wrote:

Tryed to deposit check but my bank put a 2 day hold on it, so it will be a couple days before it clears and I can do anything with it.

From: Eugene Hardin
To: josh lawson
Subject: Re: FIRST ASSIGNMENT TOMORROW WEDNEDAY

Sorry got your voice mail when you have the check this morning you will deduct $450 for your pay then deduct $50 for buy the thing you will use to clean the house then the rest of the funds goes to the art work company and the furniture company.


I will get the name of the art work and furniture company so you will send the rest of the funds to them after the funds are made available withdrawal for you.

I will not be able to speak on the phone now.
josh lawson wrote:


Today is Wednesday check should be here today. So I should keep a total of $500? How much is the check total? I don't understand what you mean about artwork and furniture or any details about a art seller. I think you need to call me asap over the phone to clarify cuz there seems to be alot of misunderstanding by email. I don't have the details for any art seller. Please call me asap please thank you,
Joshua

From: Eugene Hardin
To: josh lawson
Subject: FIRST ASSIGNMENT TOMORROW WEDNEDAY


Hello Joshua,

How are you doing?.
The payment of will arrive to you on Wednesday morning through the US Postal Service ( UPS ) here is the shipping tracking number

*************

You can easily track the number by logging on to www.ups.com to know
when its coming on Monday morning.as soon as you have it kindly
proceed to your bank and deposit the check as soon as you receive it
today Thursday morning or You can have the check deposit via Mobile
deposit Online Deposit, ( You will log in your bank account online
access and have it deposit via mobile deposit to make all available
within 24hrs, ) and after that take out your first week's payment
which is $400 + $50 transportation allowance for 2 weeks and you
also going to deduct $50 which you should use in purchasing the things
(Groceries) you'll need for the cleaning Job on the list below.. The
rest which is supposed to be for food stuff,

We will prefer to get them when we arrived but
my husband has asked me to inform you that the balance payment should
be used for the payment of the furniture
that he already ordered. we have already chosen the kind of art and
house materials that would be nice for my family.

Can't just wait to meet you and again Please kindly get this handled
asap and buy cleaning supplies and also send the funds to the Art
seller to process the artwork delivery.. We would be so much happy if
you get this handle as we instructed and this transaction would also
grow a trusting and forward relationship with you and my family, I'm
sure you will really enjoy working for my family, if you do a good Job
within 4 months you start cleaning for us we will add up $50 to your
salary we would discuss about that when we arrive . Please you need to
email us as soon as you get this message..It is very important. I will
be awaiting your response this josh lawson <
joshualawson wrote:

When do you think you'll have the address for the apartment?


From: Eugene Hardin
To: josh lawson
Re: Craigslist posting


Yes it will be shipped tomorrow to deliver on Tuesday morning and i will send you instructions on Monday

josh lawson wrote:


Please notify me when check ships.


From: Eugene Hardin
To: Joshua Lawson
Subject: Re: Craigslist posting

your weekly salary would be
$400, actually we should have paid for more weeks but we will extend
the payment if we are satisfy with your service after a week. So my
husband finance would be needing the following Information to make out
the Bank Cashier Check:
Your Full Name
Address( Include apartment or floor number if any)
City:
State:
Zip code:
Phone #

Pay is via Cashier

Joshua Lawson wrote:

Hello here's the bank routing information you requested for direct deposit for the cleang job
Chase bank
Acc. Number:
ABA routing number:
Email, text or call me as soon as possible to let me know if I've been officially accepted for the job or not thanks,
, Eugene Hardin wrote

Re: Craigslist posting
To:Joshua Lawson

Hello Joshua,
I still have the cleaning
Position available, and sorry for our late
response . My name is( ANNE HARDIN) and My
husband's name is(EUGENE
HARDIN ), We
have a pretty 4 years Old daughter call Sarah and am
also expecting baby we are in Toronto CANADA.
We are all relocating to
your city in United
State on SEPt 22th 2016, My husband will be coming
there in your city in United State to work
on contract basis work,
Well we believe you
can do the cleaning for us anyway. You applied
for our cleaning Job Ad from craigslist.com We
need you to be cleaning
our apartment at
least 2 times in a week. So the Bedrooms Size will be
as follows: One of the bedrooms is
approximately 11' 11' and the
other one is 12'12', but will not be a
perfect square, so probably
closer to 100
square feet; it comfortably fits a full size bed, desk,
Armour and chest of drawers.... The apartment
will be large with
Dishwasher, Oven,
Microwave.etc.--Washer/Dryer --1 full bath 1 half
bath --central air and heat. The apartment will
occupies the entire
floor of the building
with direct access via the elevator, this is
exactly an apartment we asked the Real estate
agent to get for us in
your location the
apartment would be in your city so that will make it
easier for you to get to work on time We have
not pay full payment to
the Realtor until
when we about to arrived and then i will give you
the address then if you ready to be a part of
our Wonderful family.
We will be needing your services for 2hours at any
suitable time
of yours throughout for at
least 2 days in a week i hope two hours is
enough in cleaning 3bedroom house with one
master bedroom and two
standard size
rooms, with One Living room and a kitchen as well. I
believe you are fit for this position in as
much you will prove
yourself to be a
reliable and hard working person, Our arrival date
would be ( 29th 2016 ) Like i said, You will
help us to clean the
apartment in the
morning of our arrival date, My husband will tell the
estate agent to mail the keys to the apartment
to you as soon as it
ready may be you will
be able to clean it before we arrive. Also i
would like you to know that all Tools and
materials needed for the job
to make it
perfectly okay will be provided by us, We will be
spending
about 3 years for the contract job
or more we are not yet sure, so i
will be
needing your services for that time as well am satisfied
with
the services you rendered. We have a
financier that is based in the
states and he
will be handling the payment and some other expenses, so
he will be the one that will be taking care of
your payment, My
husband will instruct him
to pay $400 advance payment before our
arrival so as to secure your service , your
weekly salary would be
$400, actually we
should have paid for more weeks but we will extend
the payment if we are satisfy with your service
after a week. So my
husband finance would be
needing the following Information to make out
the Bank Cashier Check:
Your
Full Name
Address( Include apartment or
floor number if any)
City:
State:
Zip code:
Phone #
Pay is via Cashier check or
direct deposit,do you have a bank account? Yes/No
Please if you
know you really interested in this job kindly
email with above information to secure this
position because i have
someone else email
us regarding this job but i Haven't respond back
to the woman need to hear from you first. if
you send above details to
mail the payment
to you i will let the woman know the position is no
more avail.
Hope to hear from you sooner and kindly let me
know if you have
accepted our offer so that
we can forward your info to the financial
to
issue out the check as soon as possible . Remember our real
estate
agent still working on our apartment
and she said she would get back
to us with
the key and address as soon as our apartment is ready and
do not bother to reply this if you are not
honest and ready to work .
Thanks we would wait to hear from you.
Best Regards.
Eugene Hardin


Joshua Lawson wrote:
Hello I can help with yer moving
needs and or yer yard work my number is
979*******
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qwizoking

Well-Known Member
a $200 life lesson is pretty cheap, just sayin'
Lol that shit funny

I'm trying not to poke fun.
Sorry though. Sounds like you needed the cash, especially shitty of them to pray on folks that are low on funds.

I would totally troll them but I doubt the email even works now etc
 
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