ttystikk
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Maybe that guy wanted a bit more stretch in veg. That would be the reason I used HPS in veg- until I got COB LED and my plants grew so much better that encouraging stretch was unnecessary.
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Flowki
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He seemed to think they responded better to the 3k, perhaps he confused stretch with natural good growth?. Cob as good as it may be, I'm sure for a lot of folk is off putting because of it's price but mainly it's DIY/safety aspect. Great if you know what you are doing.
ThaMagnificent
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Any good deals on a light?
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I bought the 4k bulb to try out for veg and it didn't seem any better. Could be just me, but the plants seemed stronger under the 3100k and it seemed brighter. I don't see any added benefit in buying the extra bulbs and swapping them out. 3k makes perfectly hardy, bushy plants with tough stems. Best veg light I've ever used.
Flowki
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Ok cheers. Suppose going from 3k veg to 3k flower would also reduce stretch a little?.
ilovetoskiatalta
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I have 6 plants 1 week into flower. I used bud blood and the stretch has been maybe 3 inches so far. This is my first time using 315lec. I feel the 3100k bulb was amazing in veg. I will find out about flower.
3 critical widow mainlined from Canuck seeds. Almost no stretch
1 cheese main lined from Canuck seeds some stretch
2 California orange Canuck seeds 3-4 inches of stretch.
FFOF soil ph 6.0 i use distilled H2O
FF grow big/big bloom for veg
I will use FF big bloom and tiger bloom will be used
temps 75 -78 degrees i 190 com fan attached to a 4x16 mountain air as exhaust and a 190 cfm fan for air flow intake
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Flowki
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ok thnx
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You don't want to over do it when using Bud blood and other flower boosters. I run a similar product called MOAB. I use about half of the recommended dose, and I also lower my base nutrients from 10ml/gallon to 8ml/gallon for a few days while I'm using MOAB. I give it to them for 3 days around week 2 and that's it. I've run the same strain with and without, and it definitely kicks them into flower faster and reduces stretching. That said, I don't think it makes a huge difference in the final results. You could also flower earlier if you're worried about vertical space.
THE KONASSURE
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if you veg @4000k or 5000k or bluer then flower @ 3000k or redder
well
think stems huge buds, lots of support needed
add some more red to the veg and you get a less bushy plant but with thicker stems, seaweed and such can make the plants bushy
So unless you need the extra blues for mold issues or the redder lamp makes your veg too hot
it`s a 2m x 1.2m veg area 2m H, normally got 6 to 10 teens in there a mum or 3 and clones and seeds shooting off.
I did find using 600/1000w hps`s for veg had their uses
Swapped over to a 600mh @ 400w when my last hps lamp blew, then set up a 300w induction, best veg light I`ve used so far 300w 5000k induction with a "300w" (150w draw) blue heavy led panel
the led was in there the whole time so got used with the hps and such
but 5000k cobs veg up a nice plant just can`t be asked to make 5 to 8 units to run the veg and the induction lamp was £30 and I`ve let to see anything veg better than tube lights
The large leaves you get from tube lights, is it the extra uv or xrays they give off or what ?
cmh 5000k veggies nice too but same issues as hps/mh bare bulb gets hot fire risk, cooled hood can be a hassle......
main issue people have with strains like Trainwreck for example is
if you veg @4000k or 5000k or bluer then flower @ 3000k or redder
well
think stems huge buds, lots of support needed
add some more red to the veg and you get a less bushy plant but with thicker stems, seaweed and such can make the plants bushy
So unless you need the extra blues for mold issues or the redder lamp makes your veg too hot
it`s a 2m x 1.2m veg area 2m H, normally got 6 to 10 teens in there a mum or 3 and clones and seeds shooting off.
I did find using 600/1000w hps`s for veg had their uses
Swapped over to a 600mh @ 400w when my last hps lamp blew, then set up a 300w induction, best veg light I`ve used so far 300w 5000k induction with a "300w" (150w draw) blue heavy led panel
the led was in there the whole time so got used with the hps and such
but 5000k cobs veg up a nice plant just can`t be asked to make 5 to 8 units to run the veg and the induction lamp was £30 and I`ve let to see anything veg better than tube lights
The large leaves you get from tube lights, is it the extra uv or xrays they give off or what ?
cmh 5000k veggies nice too but same issues as hps/mh bare bulb gets hot fire risk, cooled hood can be a hassle......
ilovetoskiatalta
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I used 7 ml per gallon of bud blood and only gave the plants 2 cups BB and 3 cups distilled water.
You can see the new growth has amazing green color.
I never use any notes at full strength
just my .02
I am debating using it for week two...any one have any thoughts?
Evil-Mobo
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I would suggest sending an email to growers house and asking they are good about responding.
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I have the 120v version and my cord is 6ft.
Pig4buzz
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well no doubt the plants weathered the storm of being burnt. 2xshaman 2xwhite widow 2xincredible bulk.
About ft tall and that big around now
Going to veg a week more and see what they look like may flip. I am concerned about stretch and them being so bushy. (3x4 space) Specs say 2/3 times stretch on each. Shaman are regs so could be 2M 2F or one of each. Others are F Anyone
Like the new look grow room. The 2 pans are Water is due to low humidity. @GroErr saves me again thanks.
About ft tall and that big around now
Going to veg a week more and see what they look like may flip. I am concerned about stretch and them being so bushy. (3x4 space) Specs say 2/3 times stretch on each. Shaman are regs so could be 2M 2F or one of each. Others are F Anyone
Like the new look grow room. The 2 pans are Water is due to low humidity. @GroErr saves me again thanks.
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Pig4buzz
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Yeah 6 ft.
DesertGrow89
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Nice, you should tie that stretchy stalk down at a 90 to even the canopy out a bit
DesertGrow89
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Spray yourself off with andisopropyl alcohol and water solution every time before you enter the room/house it should help with bugs.
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jzs147
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I got 630 watt lec going off to a rough start.Water pump fucked up lost 1 plant and I've got a runt so stuck 2 incredible bulk clones top left. an lower right i stuck an IB next to my pineapple express runt.
Dunno wats gonna happen. Might just chuck em in to flower so I can start again.
bob223
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i would veg it out for a week or two. That tent will fill nicely and the 630 will grow great buds.
A little patience will pay off in the end. Keep us updated everything looks good from here