Dawg House Productions Presents The 5000k Plus 730 Nm Grow

mc130p

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Right on Brother. That's What I Thought You Were Talking About And That's The Exact Reason I Grow At Night Indoors. Look At My Last Pic I Posted Time Stamp list 11;40 Pm My Light Come On At 7 Pm. Notice The Difference In Temps. Now When It's A Steady 100 Plus Degrees Outside I Let Things Progress Naturally However In The Fall I Will Turn Off My AC When I Get Up And Swing Back By My Grow Room About 8 Hours Later And Turn It Back On Lowering The Temps For Night Time Growing.:hump:

I Still Want To Read Those Articles If You Can Find Them :weed:
I posted the article last year or the year before....can't remember where i found it though.....

Found it and the discussion with Groerr:

This one is focused on temp differences and R/FR effects, would be cool to try that negative DIF environment, 25% increase in bud would be nice - lol. That second link I posted has a good explanation of the light temperature (K) if I'm getting it right. It's suggesting that the greater the difference in colour between veg and flower lighting, the greater the stretch. That lines up with my thoughts on having the different light sources for veg/flowering. Good discussion, unfortunately it doesn't help @Carolina Dream'n but good info on this.
I couldn't find that one, but I found this full text, which cites that one:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/030442389190161Q
Stem elongation and flowering of the long-day plant Campanula isophylla Moretti in response to day and night temperature alternations and light quality

Roar Moe a, Royal D. Heins b, John Erwin b
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doi:10.1016/0304-4238(91)90161-Q


Abstract
Stem elongation and plant height at flowering in Campanula isophylla Moretti were greater when plants were exposed to far red (FR) light or light from incandescent lamps which had a low red (R)/FR ratio (0.7). The difference in final stem length between FR- and R-light-treated plants was greatest when the light treatments were given during the entire night or as a 3 h end-of-day (EOD) lighting period. Only minor differences existed between R and FR light treatments when plants were given light in the middle of the night. However, FR light suppressed lateral branching compared with R light. The reduction in plant height as a result of a lower day temperature (DT) than night temperature (NT) was nullified by day-extension lighting with incandescent lamps. With fluorescent lamps (R/FR ratio 4.2), plant heightwas significantly less at 15/21°C (negative DT-NT (DIF)) than at 21/15°C DT/NT (positive DIF). Continuous lighting (CL) during the entire night or with 3 h night interrupttion (NI) treatments with R or FR light immediately after the middle of the night was equally effective at inducing flowering, and much more effective than EOD or end-of-night (EON) lighting. DIF had a slight influence on the rate of flower development, but negative DIF grown plants had 24% more flowers and flower buds, and 26% higher dry weight, than positive DIF plants. Practical applications of light quality and negative DIF treatments for the production of high-quality pot plants of C. isophylla are discussed.
 

The Dawg

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Dawg I do the same thing. My lights are 6am off 6pm on. I'm a freak and am up all night anyway so it works out best for my schedule and managing temps, The neg dif usually happens without trying.

Hey by the way I've been wondering when the thread for the next party cup comp is going up. If i remember correctly from a few pages back you're starting the next one right? It would fit in perfectly with my next round.
Sorry Brother Time Got Away From Me. I Will Post Party Comp After Football Today

Even A Blind Dawg Finds A Bone Every Now And Then. Brother Isn't that How We Find Out And Experiment With Different Approaches Is By Accident.:hump:
 

GroErr

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Right on Brother. That's What I Thought You Were Talking About And That's The Exact Reason I Grow At Night Indoors. Look At My Last Pic I Posted Time Stamp list 11;40 Pm My Light Come On At 7 Pm. Notice The Difference In Temps. Now When It's A Steady 100 Plus Degrees Outside I Let Things Progress Naturally However In The Fall I Will Turn Off My AC When I Get Up And Swing Back By My Grow Room About 8 Hours Later And Turn It Back On Lowering The Temps For Night Time Growing.:hump:

I Still Want To Read Those Articles If You Can Find Them :weed:
Still have some links to find but here are some I read through to trigger my testing, had saved these .pdf's below. A lot of factors discussed/tested like stretch, node spacing, effects on flowering etc., some seem conclusive, some seem like further testing could be done. All in all they were enough for me to try it and as mentioned, not a lot of downside after a few rounds on that environment. Cheers.
 

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Icemud420

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Cool thread! Hope you don't mind if I join along. I currently am testing a far red 730nm flower trigger myself, just put into flowering about 3 days ago. What light schedule are you running for flowering? 12/12, 14/10? how long are you running your FR's after lights out?

I skimmed through your journal but didn't read all 18 pages so I hope you don't mind me asking if you already posted this info :)
 

The Dawg

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Still have some links to find but here are some I read through to trigger my testing, had saved these .pdf's below. A lot of factors discussed/tested like stretch, node spacing, effects on flowering etc., some seem conclusive, some seem like further testing could be done. All in all they were enough for me to try it and as mentioned, not a lot of downside after a few rounds on that environment. Cheers.
Oh Thank You My Brother from The Great White North. Where Eskimo's Are Proud And Seals Are Afraid :hump:
 

The Dawg

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Cool thread! Hope you don't mind if I join along. I currently am testing a far red 730nm flower trigger myself, just put into flowering about 3 days ago. What light schedule are you running for flowering? 12/12, 14/10? how long are you running your FR's after lights out?

I skimmed through your journal but didn't read all 18 pages so I hope you don't mind me asking if you already posted this info :)
Welcome Brother Icemud. I Run A 12 X 12 With The 730's Coming On 5 Minutes Before Lights Out And They Stay On 10 After Lights Out. :weed:
 

The Dawg

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Week 4 Day 1 Flower

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The Dawg

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Check This Shit Out. I Was Shipped A Bad HLG240-1050 By Online Components. How Do I Know Its Bad Well its Putting Out 25.3 Volts On The DC Side Anyway I Called And was Told I Need To Fill Out An On Line R/A Form. That Was A Flippin Week Ago. So I Just Purchased 1 From Mouser. Why Am I Bitching Its Because This Driver Goes to My Citizen 1812 Light And My Citizen 1812 Light Is Supposed To Keep These Two Nasty Azz's Company. Moral Of My Bitching Don't Buy from Online Components. :wall:

Now These Two Hussies Are The Product Of A Mad Breeder @Socalrob Back Yard Extravaganza. Now I'm Sure I Will Be Corrected However The Best I Could Nail Down Was Its A Alien Bubba x Alien Bubba Back Crossed With Blue Key Lime Pie :hump:

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Socalrob

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What's up brother, they sure look good. I think that one was all la plata labs alien bubba x alien bubba. I had two males and two fems out back for that one. In another area I had a sincity blue lime pie male and a Bluepower fem and another alien bubba fem. We've done more than thirty crosses with a number of different strains since that one and even though I still have a lot of store bought beans, I think for the comp I'll start five chucks. Glad you guys liked those and man do your plants look happy. Always entertaining in here, keep it up! Looking forward to the finish. And the comp!
 

The Dawg

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Right On Brother Alien Bubba x Alien Bubba. I Will Tell You This She Is Very Tasty. I Just Dropped Their Light Schedule To 14/10. Hopefully My Driver Arrives Next Week And I Can Switch To Flowering Them. At The Moment I Have An XGS Full Power.:peace:

Bust Out What Ya Like Brother Makes No Difference To Me. I'm Still Going To Kick Your Azz. I Just brought An Olde But A Goodie Out Of The Moth Balls :weed:
 
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