Sugar water and honey feed

PetFlora

PetFlora

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Dr. Who said:
And I bet I can make it at home for like less then $3.00 a gallon!

Shoot me readable pic of the label or a source for actual contents by %....
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It takes me 2+ grows with 3 separate 2.5g rezes to go through one quart

Not worth it to DIY
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Dr. Who said:
STFW? You follow that republican math theory eh?

Lets see here $30 a quart/liter vs estimated less then a buck! Yeah, not worth it!
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What about only having 3 @ 2.5g/rez do you you not get? at MY usage, it would go bad long before I got through one gallon, assuming he's right in the first place
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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PetFlora said:
What about only having 3 @ 2.5g/rez do you you not get? at MY usage, it would go bad long before I got through one gallon, assuming he's right in the first place
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It would not go "bad" any sooner then your choice of pre-bottled and over-priced!

You could make it in quart/liters at a time or 55 gallon drums at a time! I could give you the way to by simply seeing a listed contents % chart!

Take a gallon formula and divide by 4.....one quarts worth.

Do what you want PF! really!

But don't come on here and say or make unfounded/false comments that might make someone not try it!


THE REAL issue is that you have something in hydro, that will do you no real good at all other then add expensive macro nutrients in small amounts! Extra sugars, no mater simple or complex sugars. Are BAD to just sit in water! And that's all they'll do too! The plant will not "use" "sugars".


Now why do you think it's "No molasses in hydro?"
 
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Skunk Baxter

Skunk Baxter

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Dr. Who said:
LOL

I see it's the same - you just moved to another side.

Now, in reality.......The sugars only feed the microbe's in the soil. It will NOT make bud sweeter tasting or grow more trichomes alone....In fact, to much sugar is very bad for soil! You can cause it to do several things. Cause an anaerobic condition and 'strangle" the roots with no O2. Or cause fermentation and alcohol build up. this will kill microbes and cause an anaerobic condition as well. Killing them 2 ways here!

The other issue is that it takes 5-7 days to see any change in a plant in soil, when feed anything......3-5 in hydro!
If anyone saw a difference (other then he shot from another side) your brain is playing with you!

Some folks love molasses! The old hippie myth says that adding molasses during the last weeks will increase trichomes and make the harvest taste sweet again. - NOPE! old school myth! It will feed the microbes some, and there is a very minor amount of a few good things in it - BUT, not enough to make a "real" difference.

Mg and S does increase trich counts and K and S does a bit also. I think that the Mg & S does a better job.

Search here for home made "sweet raw".......That works pretty good
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This was really the best and most useful post in this thread. Sugars themselves are not useful to plants because the molecule is too large, and can not be taken up by the root. But beneficial microorganisms are useful to plants, and sugars are useful to beneficial microorganisms - as long as they're used in the right way. Molasses is an absolutely essential ingredient in my grow room, but I never apply it directly to the medium. I use small quantities of it in the making of beneficial teas, which I then apply to the medium.
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Dr. Who said:
It would not go "bad" any sooner then your choice of pre-bottled and over-priced!

You could make it in quart/liters at a time or 55 gallon drums at a time! I could give you the way to by simply seeing a listed contents % chart!

Take a gallon formula and divide by 4.....one quarts worth.

Do what you want PF! really!

But don't come on here and say or make unfounded/false comments that might make someone not try it!


THE REAL issue is that you have something in hydro, that will do you no real good at all other then add expensive macro nutrients in small amounts! Extra sugars, no mater simple or complex sugars. Are BAD to just sit in water! And that's all they'll do too! The plant will not "use" "sugars".


Now why do you think it's "No molasses in hydro?"
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Wait what? On one hand you are trying to convince to make my own, and on the other you say it doesn't work :wall::wall::wall:

Where's your double-blind test?
 
Gary Goodson

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Skunk Baxter said:
This was really the best and most useful post in this thread. Sugars themselves are not useful to plants because the molecule is too large, and can not be taken up by the root. But beneficial microorganisms are useful to plants, and sugars are useful to beneficial microorganisms - as long as they're used in the right way. Molasses is an absolutely essential ingredient in my grow room, but I never apply it directly to the medium. I use small quantities of it in the making of beneficial teas, which I then apply to the medium.
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What? My lol's rocked this thread... like a hurricane.

But seriously, I've explained this so many times I get tired of repeating myself. I 100% agree and only use molasses to feed the microbes in AACT.

@Dr. Who has way more patience than I do. I've seen him repeat this too.

I'm at the point where I just lol at the whole sugars in the medium, flushing with gallons of water, and defoliating the fuck out of plants.

Newbs are gonna be newbs
 
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Dr. Who

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PetFlora said:
Wait what? On one hand you are trying to convince to make my own, and on the other you say it doesn't work :wall::wall::wall:

Where's your double-blind test?
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It has a "place" in soil or media's supplied with plenty of microbes!

I realized you were in hydro when you said "res".......this stuff or any sugar for that matter. Should never be added to a hydroponic "res"!

Gary Goodson said:
What? My lol's rocked this thread... like a hurricane.

But seriously, I've explained this so many times I get tired of repeating myself. I 100% agree and only use molasses to feed the microbes in AACT.

@Dr. Who has way more patience than I do. I've seen him repeat this too.

I'm at the point where I just lol at the whole sugars in the medium, flushing with gallons of water, defoliating the fuck out of plants.

Newbs are gonna be newbs
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Oh sooo right on that Gary!

LOL - Go peep this one!

www.rollitup.org/t/first-seedling.921497/
 
PetFlora

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Since I have seen way too much bad info in grow threads, I contacted EH to confirm your statement

In the mean time, as my hydro is F & D, roots get flooded every 3 hours, so roots are readily exposed to whatever is in the nutrient solution. Wouldn't that change the dynamic?
 
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Resinhound

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PetFlora said:
Thought i would respond to the high cost of EH Honey Chome @ $30/qt= 0.95 liters= 950 ml

Recommended dose is 8 ml/gallon

950/ 8= 118.75 doses/gallon

Cheap enough, even if it didn't work
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How about you just buy a gallon of honey from Costco for $10?

Honeychome....lol,ya right.
 
Gary Goodson

Gary Goodson

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PetFlora said:
Since I have seen way too much bad info in grow threads, I contacted EH to confirm your statement
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Of all the shit I've read in this thread, this is by far the dumbest post!

Back in the day cigarette manufacturers would advertise their products as not bad for you. They actually said cigs DONT give you cancer!
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What do you think Coca Cola would say if you called them and asked if Coke will give you diabetes?


My point is, you're smart ass just said you're going to call the manufacturer. I guess they already fooled you once, might as well let them fool you again.
LOL
 
zeddd

zeddd

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slumper707 said:
Not once did I ever say I noticed a difference. I just asked does the shit work or not. Obviously I'm not gonna be able to get a strait up answer out of y'all haters. I don't grow to sell man. Like I said this is my first grow. There's no reason why not one of y'all could of been cool about it and said "a man where ever you got that info was wrong", even probably wasn't a good idea to do this". It's cool..... I just learn from trial and error and I will be posting more pics of fire I will grow. I have learned a good lesson from all this. And I won't have my head up my ass smelling my own shit like everyone of y'all haters.
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You grow cos you wanna be as baked as us where everyfukinthing is comedy
 
zeddd

zeddd

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Fuk feeding honey to plants but there is this carbon 14 study shows monosaccharides being taken up by active transport using ATP->ADP, I will find it if someone trolls me over it but like The Man said previously can set up breathing difficulties for the roots ie promote anaerobic conditions, time to bin plants if that happens, so basically the wheel is round, cannabis doesn't require honey to flourish
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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I contacted the owner of EH, he said it absolutely works with hydro

So do your thing, and I will do mine
 
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