How are you supposed to pick a driver?

Rahz

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I don't trust the chinese drivers. I'm not really experienced with this, but I've heard a lot of bad about the chinese drivers.
There are several brands of drivers with good build quality, some Chinese. Meanwells are easy to get ahold of, but vendors here carry other brands. They're all generally 5+ year warranty well potted aluminum cased drivers, generally constant current high voltage. You would use them in a series circuit. The driver's current output is the desired current, whether 1400 or 1750 or 2100, etc. and the drivers voltage output is the sum of the voltage of all cobs.
 

Greengenes707

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whatever man, i just went and peeked in 10 different models of HLG, every single one is made in taiwan and i would trust it with my life
It's not "whatever" or my opinion, it's just the way it is. Meanwell, HLG's included, are made in taiwan(meanwells base country) and china(where they pump out product). It's not like a box of chinese hlg's and a box of taiwanese hlg's, they come in the same case from meanwell. And there is no difference between them...they are the product they are supposed to be.
So again, not all meanwells are made in taiwan.
 

CobKits

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thats fine. are you suggesting chinese models are superior to taiwanese models or something? and do you have anything to back that up?
 

Greengenes707

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thats fine. are you suggesting chinese models are superior to taiwanese models or something? and do you have anything to back that up?
Do you even read??? VVVV
It's not like a box of chinese hlg's and a box of taiwanese hlg's, they come in the same case from meanwell. And there is no difference between them...they are the product they are supposed to be.
So again, not all meanwells are made in taiwan.
 

Greengenes707

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maybe you could restate your point
Maybe you could restate or explain why you said "All meanwells are made in taiwan and regarded as the best"? Inferring that being made in taiwan is the reason for them being the best. If not that, then why would you say that all are made in taiwan, when they are not? What was the purpose?
 

CobKits

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Inferring that being made in taiwan is the reason for them being the best.
not in the slightest. 95+% of american consumers equate made in taiwan with made in china and my point to the OP was that that is not a reason to disqualify them as a manufacturer. for example the chips you use that you believe to be the best are made in asia and i believe you said youve only ever seen one bad one out of 1000.
 

weed-whacker

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you are in the EU yeah? so you should check mouser

also it is possible you might want to try the ELG-150-2100

it is a 150w driver that will run 2 cobs up to 75w


http://eu.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ELG-150-C2100Avirtualkey63430000virtualkey709-ELG150-C2100A

http://eu.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=HLG-185H-C1400Bvirtualkey63430000virtualkey709-HLG185H-C1400B

http://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/HLG-240H-C1750B/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt5PRBMPTWcac5aDEswMPfpXvB7XC56LUDfh9dwJXplLQ==


those r probably your best options for your build

200w @ 1400mA
300w @ 2100mA

240w @ 1750
 

HandyGringo

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you are in the EU yeah? so you should check mouser

also it is possible you might want to try the ELG-150-2100

it is a 150w driver that will run 2 cobs up to 75w


http://eu.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ELG-150-C2100Avirtualkey63430000virtualkey709-ELG150-C2100A

http://eu.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=HLG-185H-C1400Bvirtualkey63430000virtualkey709-HLG185H-C1400B

http://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/HLG-240H-C1750B/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt5PRBMPTWcac5aDEswMPfpXvB7XC56LUDfh9dwJXplLQ==


those r probably your best options for your build

200w @ 1400mA
300w @ 2100mA

240w @ 1750

Oh I didn't even know about that website until now, thanks a lot.. Finding the right stuff in europe is hard.

Do all those 3 support 4-5 cobs, with dimming, at 1400mA?

I heard about the hlg175h 1400b before, and it was one of the ones I had been thinking about getting actually, But then again, the 240h does have a bit more power and could allow me to run an extra cob right? If I one day decide to upgrade.
 

Desmond J

Active Member
I heard about the hlg175h 1400b before, and it was one of the ones I had been thinking about getting actually, But then again, the 240h does have a bit more power and could allow me to run an extra cob right? If I one day decide to upgrade.
Yes. The HLG185 can run 4 3590's, the HLG240 can run 5. But I think the drivers are more efficient when you use them at full (or almost) capacity... So get the 240 only if for sure you are going to upgrade from 4 to 5 COBs.

As for the initial question (and post title):
At 1400mA the CXB's need ~34.5V each (You can check that in the datasheet under "Electrical Characteristics": http://www.cree.com/~/media/Files/Cree/LED-Components-and-Modules/XLamp/Data-and-Binning/ds-CXB3590.pdf). To know which driver you need, multiply that for the number of COBs you wanna run, and find a driver with an appropriate voltage range.
HLG185H-C1400B: 71-143V ( 34.5*4=138 )
HLG240H-C1400B: 89-179V ( 34.5*5=172 )
 
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CobKits

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Yes. The HLG185 can run 4 3590's, the HLG240 can run 5. But I think the drivers are more efficient when you use them at full (or almost) capacity... So get the 240 only if for sure you are going to upgrade from 4 to 5 COBs.
actually if you look at a datsheet the efficiency is almost flat down to 50% load fo rmost models (then rapidly falls off)
 

Desmond J

Active Member
actually if you look at a datsheet the efficiency is almost flat down to 50% load fo rmost models (then rapidly falls off)
Thats in the 185 and at 115V. Not so flat at 230V, and even less in the case of the HLG240 which is the one I was talking about in that statement.

But still, yea you are right. The HLG240 running 4 COBs would be at ~77% load, only losing ~2% efficiency.
 

Grownit4me

New Member
With 4 cxb3590s I would suggest 1400ma which would drive the cobs at 50w (there about), I built a similar unit with dimming and spent some time looking at 1050 or 1400ma. My particular needs meant that for this unit no expansion to 5,6 or more cobs would be required down the road as it is being used as supplemental alongside another led fixture. Only coming up on 3 weeks bloom and all looks great.
 
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