PAR measurement thread

Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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PhotonFUD said:
Personal feelings? It appears that you are the one who has the personal issues. Since you can't understand the science, your approach has been to try and bully your opinions as facts as if you were someone of some importance. I like most intelligent people could not care less about what you think or put any value into what you consider social status as validation of your claims.

I do care when you try to come across as some kind of expert when you have absolutely no formal education, training, certification or validation from an accredited educational institution. Reality check, you are no different than any other gardener. Oh, sorry I forgot, you have a failed horticulture lighting business as well so does that make you less or more qualified than an average gardener?

Maybe I should put it another way that you 'kind' might be able to understand better:

"Kid until you get degrees in plant science and physics you are nothing more than some punk growing pot in a basement closet and posting it on youtube"

Anyhow I will continue to point at the science done by real professionals with real qualifications from real educational institutions that do it for real commercial operations that have real money at stake. You can keep playing around with your little garden and act like a Kardashian.
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So that is a big fat NO, you don't have any evidence to show of a 400µmol grow or a 1000µmol grow. You don't even have just one side to be bias to. You don't even have someone else showing it. You have presented nothing other than your opinion based your own thoughts, which is wrong, and continue to deflect when asked for sources and applications/experiments.
Seriously man, why are you deflecting. You have neither book science or application science showing your point. So I continue to ask for evidence of your claims, which you continue to say is because my personal feelings of myself. Why am I asking for YOUR data then???
You have done nothing but throw personal, and false, attacks at me to deflect a simple question.

Please just supply some uses and text of 400µmols being the ideal intensity range for higher plants, and then specifically cannabis.
 
PhotonFUD

PhotonFUD

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Greengenes707 said:
So that is a big fat NO, you don't have any evidence to show of a 400µmol grow or a 1000µmol grow. You don't even have just one side to be bias to. You don't even have someone else showing it. You have presented nothing other than your opinion based your own thoughts, which is wrong, and continue to deflect when asked for sources and applications/experiments.
Seriously man, why are you deflecting. You have neither book science or application science showing your point. So I continue to ask for evidence of your claims, which you continue to say is because my personal feelings of myself. Why am I asking for YOUR data then???
You have done nothing but throw personal, and false, attacks at me to deflect a simple question.

Please just supply some uses and text of 400µmols being the ideal intensity range for higher plants, and then specifically cannabis.
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I have pointed to publicly available research and information resources multiple times in multiple threads. There seems to be a bunch of you who just don't get it. That is fine, do whatever you want.

This thread was for people to post their PAR measurements, not for bitter snipes from a failed vendor and his cult following.
 
MeGaKiLlErMaN

MeGaKiLlErMaN

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PhotonFUD said:
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I have pointed to publicly available research and information resources multiple times in multiple threads. There seems to be a bunch of you who just don't get it. That is fine, do whatever you want.

This thread was for people to post their PAR measurements, not for bitter snipes from a failed vendor and his cult following.
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I think he just wants a link to something with validity.
 
Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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PhotonFUD said:
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I have pointed to publicly available research and information resources multiple times in multiple threads. There seems to be a bunch of you who just don't get it. That is fine, do whatever you want.

This thread was for people to post their PAR measurements, not for bitter snipes from a failed vendor and his cult following.
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You have provided one graphic from a school class(not a journal) with no reference to it's data and origin.
While I and numerous others have pointed to multiple studies showing and validating increased rate of photosynthesis, and total net in near linear to 1500µmols before saturations is in effect. Not to mention many being cannabis specific.
Then on top of that can show real world testing, both formal and nonformal, further validating the data of 1000µmols or more not even being 75% to saturation levels.
Yet you seem to ignore all of them.
So if you have no valid and substantial data of proof of your claims, real world or text, you are just spewing lies and falsities.
 
Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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PhotonFUD said:
Lots of links I provided in this thread, bottom of page 4:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/yield-from-cobs.920114/page-4

Even in that thread I said to do what you want.

I think someone is very upset that his business failed.

Anyhow, we have some people posting measurements which is great!
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And again, those do not show 400µmols to be the ideal range.
Please cite specifically. If you want to be the "mr scientific" you are trying to portray, then use correct citation of your sources.

The fact that you say "failed business" about me(another false personal attack) and still do not provide evidence of your claims is just more proof of your ignorance.
 
PhotonFUD

PhotonFUD

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Greengenes707 said:
And again, those do not show 400µmols to be the ideal range.
Please cite specifically. If you want to be the "mr scientific" you are trying to portray, then use correct citation of your sources.

The fact that you say "failed business" about me(another false personal attack) and still do not provide evidence of your claims is just more proof of your ignorance.
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Well it is pretty much failed, or is in the process of failing, if you are spending time arguing on an internet forum with some random person. Any smart business person would know better than to engage whether they were right or wrong.

I have no idea what happened to your business, nor care too be honest, and am making reference to your own posts about shutting down PLC. So no, I am not whoever you think I am.

Just some random guy on the internet posting science stuff.

Now if you don't have anything to share, please run along.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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PhotonFUD said:
Well it is pretty much failed, or is in the process of failing, if you are spending time arguing on an internet forum with some random person. Any smart business person would know better than to engage whether they were right or wrong.

I have no idea what happened to your business, nor care too be honest, and am making reference to your own posts about shutting down PLC. So no, I am not whoever you think I am.

Just some random guy on the internet posting science stuff.

Now if you don't have anything to share, please run along.
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I might be wrong, but I think all he wants is you to show your grow in which to show what your saying is what your saying. You've been talking to yourself and like 2 other people for pages now. Please show us your dank at the levels your talking about so we can see. Been waiting for pages now. Were all trying to learn here, so please.
 
Greengenes707

Greengenes707

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PhotonFUD said:
Well it is pretty much failed, or is in the process of failing, if you are spending time arguing on an internet forum with some random person. Any smart business person would know better than to engage whether they were right or wrong.

I have no idea what happened to your business, nor care too be honest, and am making reference to your own posts about shutting down PLC. So no, I am not whoever you think I am.

Just some random guy on the internet posting science stuff.

Now if you don't have anything to share, please run along.
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So that is a big fat NO again I see. You have nothing to show(from your or another source) and are saying false things about me and my company to make yourself feel better and somehow put me down buy lying about me. I would rethink your logic dude.

So just to be 100% clear...you have no example of your claims being used?
 
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