MI new era cannabis regulations

kingzt

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I heard in Colorado that whole "top shelf" model of pricing structure is being phased out already. There already passed that....and bud prices overall are very inexpensive compared to just last year.
I have heard and read that overall prices have dramatically dropped in CO. I believe it's subjective because I have seen and smoked what some people believe is top shelf or convinced it is because the price paid for it. I honestly have been more disappointed than amazed to see the meds that come from there. I have a few people come back from a trip to CO and tell me the bud is just as good here. Granted there is a lot of poopy meds floating around here too but if you find your guy/girl who knows what their doing people will always come back. As for top shelf lets take a look at the demographics. Michigan almost has double the population than CO so if and when our state becomes recreational I believe top notch will go north of 2k. In Cali top shelf indoors go for that but it averages out because the huge outdoor product also.
 

DirtyEyeball696

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This is what iam saying. My patients get most. But iam not going to lie...i got more than 5 that arent on the "books". And you all do too.
I don't know dr bob at all but read this and understand "comprehension is a must here or you rust and die"


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Illinois Enema Bandit

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Bills to regulate medical marijuana headed to Snyder
Paul Egan and Bill Laitner, Detroit Free Press September 14, 2016

Marijuana off state's fall ballot for sure.


The dispensary law would create a five-member medical marijuana licensing board, appointed by the governor, with no more than three members from the same political party.

The board and the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs is to, among other duties, provide "oversight of marijuana facilities to ensure that marijuana-infused products meet health and safety standards that protect the public to a degree comparable to state and federal standards applicable to similar food and drugs."

Growers, processors, secure transporters, dispensaries and accredited testing facilities would all be state-licensed. The costs of the application fee and an annual regulatory assessment have not yet been set. Licenses are issued for one year and are renewable annually. Licensees are subject to extensive disclosure requirements and would be required to conduct background checks on prospective employees.

Dispensaries would be taxed at 3% of their gross receipts, with some of the proceeds used to support law enforcement in municipalities where marijuana facilities are located.

Marijuana facilities could operate only in municipalities that have authorized them through local ordinances, and municipalities could limit the number and where they could locate. They can also charge licensees an annual fee of up to $5,000 to defray administrative and enforcement costs.

Medical marijuana dispensaries, already on shaky ground, received a major setback in May when a state appeals court effectively ruled that medical marijuana patients could get their cannabis only by growing it themselves or from caregivers authorized to serve a small number of patients.

The new legislation aims to clarify and standardize what is now a patchwork of selective enforcement in which some counties — including Oakland — raid and shutter virtually every dispensary, while others, such as Wayne and Washtenaw, turn a blind eye to the shops that are often marked with green crosses, a marketing symbol for medical marijuana.

“What we have now is totally out of control, the wild wild West," said state Sen. Rick Jones, R-Grand Ledge. "We have 70 or 80 dispensaries in Lansing alone. It’s up to us to bring clarity to this.”

One of the bills would legalize the use of non-smokeable forms of marijuana, such as oils or brownies and other edible forms routinely referred to as "medibles," that can be used by people, even children, with medical needs.

That's important to Ida Chinonis of Grand Blanc, whose 7-year-old daughter Bella finally found relief from constant seizures by taking a cannabis oil three times a day.

Since she began taking the cannabis oil, starting about two years ago, "she's started to bloom into becoming a little girl," Chinonis told the Free Press before lawmakers convened Wednesday. "I just hope that the House of Representatives hear her cry for help."

Chinonis now buys her cannabis oil at a dispensary in Detroit, but she's worried about potential legal liability without state laws to protect her. She would also welcome the possibility of an alternative supplier closer to her home.

The main bill, House Bill 4209, as amended by the Senate, passed the House 83-22 Wednesday, with House Minority Leader Tim Greimel, D-Auburn Hills, among the no votes. Greimel shared concerns of Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard that people with criminal histories could potentially get involved in the medical marijuana business.

"The biggest problem ... is that it allows people with serious criminal convictions, including violent felonies, to own and operate marijuana businesses," said Greimel spokeswoman Katie Carey.

"If the Legislature decides to legalize medical marijuana dispensaries and other related businesses, it is imperative that the businesses be strictly regulated and that there be stricter prohibitions on the involvement of those with criminal histories, including a lifetime ban for violent felons and for those convicted of money-laundering, among others."

Anna Heaton, a spokeswoman for Snyder, said "the governor will still need to review the final versions before making a decision on signing, but overall he is supportive of the policies and appreciates all the hard work the Legislature did to get to this point."

The bill package provides for three classes of grower licenses, with caps of 500 to 1,500 marijuana plants per license.

The Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs would set standards for various facilities;, set out how much insurance must be purchased by licensees and establish quality control standards, labeling and packaging standards, and testing standards and procedures. It would also oversee a "statewide monitoring system to track all marijuana transfers."

The board and its agents, including auditors and the Michigan State Police, would have the right to inspect marijuana facilities at any time, without notice or the need for a search warrant.

Those operating within the scope of their licenses are protected under the new law from state or local criminal or civil prosecution for marijuana-related offenses.

The bills had been stuck in a Senate committee for 11 months, with sponsors unable to get the majority needed to move to the full Senate. But last Thursday, the bills were discharged from the committee and passed by the full Senate with the bare amount of votes necessary.

The bills — HB 4209-4210, 4827, SB 141 and SB 1014 — build on the constitutional amendment passed by voters to legalize medical marijuana in 2008.

Reaction to the bills’ final passage has been building in advance — vehemently pro and con — on the Internet’s marijuana forums and in law enforcement circles ever since the sudden Senate action last week.

“Some folks are happy for any legalization crumbs — I've worked too hard to accept that,” said Debra Young, 58, of Ferndale, a state-registered user of medical marijuana for glaucoma.

Young has campaigned for years on behalf of having Michigan legalize marijuana that would be taxed and regulated like alcoholic beverages. She said she opposed the new rules for dispensaries because she said they’d drive up costs for users, but she was glad to see Michigan join other states in allowing non-smoked forms of medical marijuana.

“So many ill people, including children, needed this badly,” Young said.

But Rick Thompson of suburban Flint, editor of the online Compassion Chronicles site on medical marijuana, said the bill on dispensaries “represents everything bad about the legislative process in Michigan" as "a tale of special-interest concessions, law-enforcement lobbying and political manipulation."

Lowell said the security required in the bills to safely transport cannabis is excessive. “You don’t need two armed guards to transport medical marijuana,” he said.

Also, “the marijuana now gets taxed — no other medicine is taxed in Michigan."

Schneider disputed claims the legislation will drive up the price of cannabis, which she said is now in the range of $200 to $400 an ounce for medical marijuana patients, and said allowing
larger-scale grow operations is likely to bring the price down through economies of scale.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/09/14/house-vote-bills-regulate-medical-marijuana/90352068/
I have tons of problems with this new Snyder BS but through it all my mind keeps dragging me back to the "violent felon" rhetoric contained within it,that bullshit excuse has been used since the early 1980's to implement bullshit seizure laws and Rico enforcement against people who pose no danger to the public.

I've been playing this cat n mouse game with politicians for decades & am sick to death of their legislation,two seized homes & countless cash spent defending my use of a much needed medicine has forced me to drop out of their " legal " system again,nothing short of decriminalization will bring me back out of the closet.

Snyder needs to gtfo out of office asap,or legalize 100% .
 

Illinois Enema Bandit

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I don't know dr bob at all but read this and understand "comprehension is a must here or you rust and die"


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I can tell you that Dr Bob is one of the finest men walking the face of the earth & he isn't getting rich off mj like some,I've yet to meet a Dr that works until 3am 6 days a week providing compassion care,Dr Bob is the face of what taking the Hippocratic Oath truly means .
 

potsnoberry

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Maybe now that our law makers have created a bloated, over-regulated system, more people will get behind MI Legalize and their next ballot initiative that was recently announced for 2018

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/09/petition_drive_planned_for_201.html#incart_river_home_pop
Figures those f'kn morons would hang around to screw up another election cycle… I will actively campaign against any further actions by those incompetent useless bags of wind.
 

Dr. Bob

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Since he admitted he would have voted for these bills I'm not sure what your point is..
I am not sure what you mean by 'admitted he would have voted for these bills' references... Are you suggesting that by saying that I would have supported a set of bills that created dispensaries in Michigan, even if an imperfect way, was wrong?
 

captainmorgan

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Not everything is better than nothing. This new system will fund the persecution and imprisoning of countless more harmless cannabis supporters. And all that will be in the interest of protecting corporate profits now instead of the old drugs are evil meme.
 

mauricem00

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Colorado has med and rec,I can see that being separate. We will have 2 med systems here,don't think that will last.
I nevada we are considering a recreational use law on the november ballot. after reading the law I think MMJ registration will drop dramatically if it passes since it will allow patients to buy cannabis at well regulated dispensaries or grow up to 6 plants for personal use without forfeiting their 5TH and 2ND amendment rights.registration in this state doubled after the first dispensary opened a year ago and quadrupled in the 3 years since the legislator passed laws allowing dispensaries to open.if people can but their medicine or grow their own medicine without paying $400 and giving up their 5TH and 2ND amendment rights then why register?you can produce just as much medicine with 6 plants as you can with 12 plants using the right growing style.
 

mauricem00

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I'm right here, pondering the new changes in our state cannabis laws. Michigan has a reputation of having one of the most corrupt state governments in the nation. And now Dow Chemical has decided to start rolling out ginormous warehouse grows, I'm sure everything will go perfectly fine for patients.
in terms of corruption I think nevada beats your state. we were built by the mafia after all :):):) funny how major corporations are buying up companies that make the supplies we use to grow cannabis.as an MMJ patient I would be afraid to try corporate factory farm cannabis.
 

Dr. Bob

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Not everything is better than nothing. This new system will fund the persecution and imprisoning of countless more harmless cannabis supporters. And all that will be in the interest of protecting corporate profits now instead of the old drugs are evil meme.
Excellent point.
 

since1991

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We can bitch about whatever all we want. Still wont change a damn thing about the progression and future of legalized marijuana. And eventually it will become just a regular AG CROP just like everything else that grows from the ground and has value. And big corporations will be the ones controlling it all. Anything else is just nit picking over bullshit state rules and guidelines. You got to look at the big picture thats slowly unfolding and prepare for it.
 
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captainmorgan

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We can bitch about whatever all we want. Still wont change a damn thing about the progression and future of legalized marijuana. And eventually it will become just a regular AG CROP just like everything else that grows from the ground and has value. And big corporations will be the ones controlling it all. Anything else is just nit picking over bullshit state rules and guidelines. You got to look at the big picture thats slowly unfolding and prepare for it.

I wish that's what was happening and it would just end up another AG crop but that's a fairy tale. Once this is turned over to corporations they will make sure to keep control through their government puppets. They will try to keep the schedule high for control and lock up anyone that doesn't follow their rules and cut into their profits. The only way to get this freed from them is through a ballot initiative written by people and not corporations and their bought and paid for politicians.
 

Dr. Bob

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I wish that's what was happening and it would just end up another AG crop but that's a fairy tale. Once this is turned over to corporations they will make sure to keep control through their government puppets. They will try to keep the schedule high for control and lock up anyone that doesn't follow their rules and cut into their profits. The only way to get this freed from them is through a ballot initiative written by people and not corporations and their bought and paid for politicians.
Unfortunately, you probably won't be seeing any more voter initiatives from grass roots efforts due to their recent rule change. You know, the one they quietly passed and put into immediate effect while we were going crazy over where someone in a dress got to pee.
 

captainmorgan

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Vote them all out of office and get some reasonable people in that will change the rules back and let the system work the way it's suppose to. Government is suppose to be the servant of the people not the other way around.
 
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