Am i ready to flush

[RM3]

I'm over at @ttystikk a lot lol I know a thing or two about those things called cobs lol

Tis a different kind of cob

 

[RM3]

Gotta love it

The whole bud,,,,,
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[CannaBruh]

So the secret to RM3 is to actually let the plant finish... probably the most amber I've seen outside my garden in some time

 

[RM3]

So the secret to RM3 is to actually let the plant finish... probably the most amber I've seen outside my garden in some time

I breed for the early amber, most of my gear shows it in week 4 or 5

but yeah, most growers don't actually let the plants finish properly

 

[CannaBruh]

Caramel apples is the name of the game imo, I like my bananas a bit green, but my cannabis DONE, DOS=DeadonStick

 

[Resinhound]

No two weeks just one and no flush just feed pH water and starve them at the root level so they break down the nutrients they have stored in their leaves and so on. These plants store plenty of nutrients whether they do anything to the smoke is the debate but to me it'd be foolish not to use the nutrients stored up.

Plants don't "store nutrients". This is one of the main reasons we have this ridiculous notion of "flushing". Stoners who don't know what's happening in their plants and using that flawed knowledge to spew to the masses.

 

[CannaBruh]

so what happens to the nutrients from roots to photosynthesis, and what happens to it during lights off?

 

[Resinhound]

so what happens to the nutrients from roots to photosynthesis, and what happens to it during lights off?

Nutrients are converted to saccharides and starches and those are stored in leaves, after the conversion they are no longer "nutrients". During lights off the plant feeds off and uses these metabolites to sustain growth in the absence of light.

The idea that there is GH bloom just sitting in your leaves until the lights come back on is just plain Bullshit.

 

[CannaBruh]

You just said it, it's (food we give the plants) sitting in your roots, and if it's in your roots it's available to be converted to be in the leaves... no?

We need to define what we're talking about, "nutrients" being the minerals we deliver to the plant as food vs "nutrients" as in what the plant has converted via photosynthesis as food.

Either way, if you feed to harvest, both are likely present in the plant. If you "starve" the plant depletes these "stores"...

 

[Resinhound]

You just said it's sitting in your roots, and if it's in your roots it's available to be converted to be in the leaves... no?

I said no such thing, you are mistaken.

Stomata will open and close, this governs take up by the roots.

It doesn't change the fact that plants don't "store nutrients". Period.

 

[CannaBruh]

I said no such thing, you are mistaken.

Stomata will open and close, this governs take up by the roots.

It doesn't change the fact that plants don't "store nutrients". Period.

My first sentence was poorly worded. From your statement, you're suggesting that "minerals" present in the roots are indeed available for uptake and conversion in the leaves... I'll edit to clarify and apologies.

 

[CannaBruh]

If plants don't store, then you suggest a real time availability of the "minerals" we deliver to the plants, which is impossible as the plants make their own food. There is some lag there, that lag could be considered "storage".

 

[RM3]

If plants don't store, then you suggest a real time availability of the "minerals" we deliver to the plants, which is impossible as the plants make their own food. There is some lag there, that lag could be considered "storage".

They absolutely "store" food just not "nutes" tis starches and sugars that it makes from the nutes

 

[Resinhound]

If plants don't store, then you suggest a real time availability of the "minerals" we deliver to the plants, which is impossible as the plants make their own food. There is some lag there, that lag could be considered "storage".

Stomata open and water and nutrients are drawn up through the roots. Conversion and uptake happen simultaneously, this is why your logic is flawed. Instead of arguing why don't you try reading on the subject some.There is no nutrient storage happening in the plant.

 

[CannaBruh]

Nutrients are in the roots, you guys really don't think passive/active absorption is instant do you? Conversion and uptake are not instantaneous.

Instead of picking at my character (assumption that I haven't done my reading) why not try being polite and discussing with some manners?

What happens to what's in the roots when the pressure builds up overnight? There is pressure in the plant and it's not inert hydraulic fluid.

 

[Bbcchance]

Plants store food in the same fashion that humans do, cells specificaly designed to house surplus converted unused energy from our food, ours are called fat cells, plants have sink cells, like your body anything taken in that isnt used is expelled before being moved on to the storage area, with humans its our digestive system with plants the root and stem systems
http://www.biologydiscussion.com/plants/plant-absorption-conduction-rise-of-cell-sap-transportation/2370

 

[CannaBruh]

Plants store food in the same fashion that humans do, cells specificaly designed to house surplus converted unused energy from our food, ours are called fat cells, plants have sink cells, like your body anything taken in that isnt used is expelled before being moved on to the storage area, with humans its our digestive system with plants the root and stem systems
http://www.biologydiscussion.com/plants/plant-absorption-conduction-rise-of-cell-sap-transportation/2370

Yay

hence, my bodybuilding analogy earlier..

 

[Bbcchance]

Yay

hence, my bodybuilding analogy earlier..

True a bodybuilder does have an extreame low fat and low salt diet for a competition, also to bulk up in prep, but the starvation diet isnt to be healthy, its to have thin skin and no "padding" under the skin to show muscle tissue off more promenently. And any of them will tell you this makes them very weak and frail to the point of near toxic body shock, not very healthy....

 

[CannaBruh]

True a bodybuilder does have an extreame low fat and low salt diet for a competition, also to bulk up in prep, but the starvation diet isnt to be healthy, its to have thin skin and no "padding" under the skin to show muscle tissue off more promenently. And any of them will tell you this makes them very weak and frail to the point of near toxic body shock, not very healthy....

I'm sure if the flowers could talk they'd tell you all about how they weren't intended to be smoked but to be used as vehicles for the next generation much the same as "competition prep" isn't a condition that is kept year round.

Back to plants tho, I feel and find that there's something to be said about plants that went through a "cutting phase" at the end of their life
Nothing wrong with feeding them to the end, just saying to dismiss those as whatever terms were flung around that flushing/leeching/starving or whatever doesn't deplete plants of any kinds of stores, is not something I subscribe to.

 

[Bbcchance]

I'm sure if the flowers could talk they'd tell you all about how they weren't intended to be smoked but to be used as vehicles for the next generation much the same as "competition prep" isn't a condition that is kept year round.

Back to plants tho, I feel and find that there's something to be said about plants that went through a "cutting phase" at the end of their life
Nothing wrong with feeding them to the end, just saying to dismiss those as whatever terms were flung around that flushing/leeching/starving or whatever doesn't deplete plants of any kinds of stores, is not something I subscribe to.

Fair enough, and i can agree that it will depleat stores, i only say that those stores are unused energy(calories) not unused floranova ph perfect grow ginourmous, i equate it to not feeding my grandmother in the last weeks of her life, sure she was gonna die anyway, but i doubt their was any homemade blueberry ice cream left in her after the mortician dried and cured her....im probably going to hell for that one aint I?....