Looking for a safer extraction machine to make more $$ - daddy needs new shoes

[Freddie Millergogo]

I saw an ad where they are selling shatter for $500 an oz. Anyone know a good machine that is not too expensive but safe to make more cash then selling straight weed. Looking for safer methods without building high tech kitchen.

I saw a nice rig but it was $48,000 or more.

 

[gwpharms]

Read on in the threds below

 

[gwpharms]

If you want to make poison in your back yard all you need is a can of butane a glass tube a hot plate and some expert tech from a GED drop out with a youtube channel.
If you want to make cannabis concentrates in one of 100 ways humans have been for thousands of years that are safer and stronger than shatter or wax. Well you can do that very economicly.
The unfortunate truth is the science of making safe extracts fit to be called medicine and given to our fellow humans is a very deep and complex one and requires a lot of expensive toys. You may have seen me say this on other threds but here it goes again....this is real,serious organic chemistry you and so many others wish to dabble in. One thing i like to think about organic chem and pharmaceutical chem makes it a little differant than say bio chem or synthetic chemistry is that were making things that people consume and put into their bodies, many of them under the pretence that it is MEDICINE! There is, or at least should be some ethics involved.

 

[Freddie Millergogo]

If you want to make poison in your back yard all you need is a can of butane a glass tube a hot plate and some expert tech from a GED drop out with a youtube channel.
If you want to make cannabis concentrates in one of 100 ways humans have been for thousands of years that are safer and stronger than shatter or wax. Well you can do that very economicly.
The unfortunate truth is the science of making safe extracts fit to be called medicine and given to our fellow humans is a very deep and complex one and requires a lot of expensive toys. You may have seen me say this on other threds but here it goes again....this is real,serious organic chemistry you and so many others wish to dabble in. One thing i like to think about organic chem and pharmaceutical chem makes it a little differant than say bio chem or synthetic chemistry is that were making things that people consume and put into their bodies, many of them under the pretence that it is MEDICINE! There is, or at least should be some ethics involved.

Well your avatar looks like melanoma and I know a company that kicks the living shit out of the pharmaceutical companies for a very very low cost. They have thousands of real testimonials with some pretty graphic pictures showing people having their lives saved.

 

[gwpharms]

Oh, well would people lie for money? I don't think so. I mean, its not like all these people selling butane and vacuum purge ovens would say or do anything to sell me a "shat vac 3000" must have took a team of phds to develop that 3 gallon bucket on a hot plate.
Sounds like this "company" must have test results for every batch prooving there is no residual solvents in there product. BTW you can purchase testimonials and Facebook likes. Sounds like they got the "1000+ likes for $500" package.

Why just yesterday i saw a guy jump right out of his hospice bed and run a mile after receiving his medical grade butane inoculation.

I know i sound like a jerk now but, read study and educte yourself beyond what your google search tells you. I promise you in a couple years you will wonder why i was so nice and even bothered to help you.Dont just follow the ignorant and blind. Thats all whos on here.
My avitar is what cbg cbd cbc thc and terpenes look like when extracted without toxic solvents. If you learn more you will find not all extract is sickly yellow brownish looking. Only non polar does that.yes there are many solvents with different polarities. Even water is one. It depends on what you use to extract. Want it clear? Then i can pull out the thc fraction. And you will see the other fractions conataing terpene flavors are colored
All the ingredients in my extract have been accounted for 100% i could meet fda guidelines. Whats the other 30% in your 70% shatter? What i i could tell you 100 ways to make stronger extact without butane, would you still use it because you like the color brown/yellow?

 

[Fadedawg]

I saw an ad where they are selling shatter for $500 an oz. Anyone know a good machine that is not too expensive but safe to make more cash then selling straight weed. Looking for safer methods without building high tech kitchen.

I saw a nice rig but it was $48,000 or more.

Cost is relatively, and can depend on how much outside support you need from others. You can build your own relatively inexpensively:

Lil Terp https://skunkpharmresearch.com/passive-butane-extractor-and-reclaimer/

Mk III https://skunkpharmresearch.com/mk-iii-terpenator/

Best Value Vacuum or Terpp Extractors are good resources for already built components or systems, with Terpp Extractors providing the most after market support, if'n you need any hand holding.

On the upper end, are the commercial extraction systems falling in the, "or more" category, which may include turnkey installation and training. Those systems also include all the ASME/IBC/NEC/NFPA certifications by a third party licensed professional engineer, required to operate in a licensed extraction facility. Locally operating an unlicensed extraction operation is a Class B felony.

Good shatter wholesales here locally for about $15/g, or about $425 oz, and retails around $35/g. It must pass lab analysis/certification for content, residual solvents, pesticides, and mold. Licensed dispensaries can't sell any that is not certified.

The reason for the analysis and certification requirement, was the public horror and outrage at the results of random lab analysis showing unregulated concentrates to be rife with solvents, pesticides, and mold, as well as varying considerably as to cannabinoid content.

The black market will always fill any niches created by free market regulation, but at least locally, the point has been made that black market quality control is unreliable, leading us to the biggest reasons that might be so.

Specifically equipment, material resources, and process control.

It requires more expensive equipment than just the extraction system, as well as a reliable source of quality uncontaminated plant material, and close control of the process parameter.

If you covet selling quality material at open market prices, a solid business plan should ostensibly include what it takes to meet those requirements, and unless you are also growing your own, the reliable source of quality uncontaminated plant material can be your biggest challenge.

Not only can a contaminated batch turn out badly, it contaminates the system, including the recovered LPG, requiring dumping and cleaning.

 

[gwpharms]

Cost is relatively, and can depend on how much outside support you need from others. You can build your own relatively inexpensively:

Lil Terp https://skunkpharmresearch.com/passive-butane-extractor-and-reclaimer/

Mk III https://skunkpharmresearch.com/mk-iii-terpenator/

Best Value Vacuum or Terpp Extractors are good resources for already built components or systems, with Terpp Extractors providing the most after market support, if'n you need any hand holding.

On the upper end, are the commercial extraction systems falling in the, "or more" category, which may include turnkey installation and training. Those systems also include all the ASME/IBC/NEC/NFPA certifications by a third party licensed professional engineer, required to operate in a licensed extraction facility. Locally operating an unlicensed extraction operation is a Class B felony.

Good shatter wholesales here locally for about $15/g, or about $425 oz, and retails around $35/g. It must pass lab analysis/certification for content, residual solvents, pesticides, and mold. Licensed dispensaries can't sell any that is not certified.

The reason for the analysis and certification requirement, was the public horror and outrage at the results of random lab analysis showing unregulated concentrates to be rife with solvents, pesticides, and mold, as well as varying considerably as to cannabinoid content.

The black market will always fill any niches created by free market regulation, but at least locally, the point has been made that black market quality control is unreliable, leading us to the biggest reasons that might be so.

Specifically equipment, material resources, and process control.

It requires more expensive equipment than just the extraction system, as well as a reliable source of quality uncontaminated plant material, and close control of the process parameter.

If you covet selling quality material at open market prices, a solid business plan should ostensibly include what it takes to meet those requirements, and unless you are also growing your own, the reliable source of quality uncontaminated plant material can be your biggest challenge.

Not only can a contaminated batch turn out badly, it contaminates the system, including the recovered LPG, requiring dumping and cleaning.

Like i said alot of expensive toys to make anything other than "backyard bho"
There is much to learn

 

[researching]

I saw an ad where they are selling shatter for $500 an oz. Anyone know a good machine that is not too expensive but safe to make more cash then selling straight weed. Looking for safer methods without building high tech kitchen.

I saw a nice rig but it was $48,000 or more.

When you crunch the numbers $500 for a Z of shatter is losing money vs flower. Even if you are getting a 15% return.

Based upon 15% yield for a z of shatter requires over 6z's of flower. 6.6z's of flower to be exact if my math is correct. Add to that the the solvent cost/equipment cost and you are even deeper in the hole.

From what I have seen, you can easily bump price if the quality is there and make it worthwhile. Just my $.02 buddy.

 

[gwpharms]

Like ive said these guys selling their kits and sytems are just salesman. Just because they say so dosnt make their technology the best or mean they know what their doing. But if you ask them, "oh yeah shatter sells for millions a gram and this machine will spew it out all day long so 45k is a minimal investment when you look at the potential returns"


They dont care if your successful at it or if you make a clean safe product. They alredy got your money. Sucker

Now anyone can put a pot on a hot plate fasion a lid for it and sell it as a piece of scientific equipment

 

[DarthBlazeAnthony]

Check out mine. It is a 10 ton press and pretty compact. Come say hello in the youtube comments. You can also check out my grow. Cheers!