Young clones dying need help pls
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tusseltussel
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What do the roots look like? Are those leaves dry or wilting?
ligrow
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It's wilting I think. Roots were healthy and white, don't look as healthy as before
I transplant them into hydroton and it look like this after a night.
Roots are getting water
I use chiller maintain res around 69f I think o2 should be enough
What's the mother loving hydroton?
I reuse hydroton. And I put it in water with bleach for few days. Still have some bleach smell in the res. Do you think this could be my problem?
I transplant them into hydroton and it look like this after a night.
Roots are getting water
I use chiller maintain res around 69f I think o2 should be enough
What's the mother loving hydroton?
I reuse hydroton. And I put it in water with bleach for few days. Still have some bleach smell in the res. Do you think this could be my problem?
tusseltussel
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It's probably been 6 year's since I've done hydro so I can't be too much of help there but if it was soil I'd say tent it with a 1 gallon zip lock bag, it's not used to being on its own yet.
Cx2H
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Greetings, too much chlorine, above 1 ppm is not really good. Not sure if your residual from sanitizing is got you above that number. The PH is def an issue.
Mass Die-Off/Sickness: When you transplanted says to me that the new media/system was toxic in some way. Could be as simple as transplant shock and low RH or as complex as X, Y and Z compounded by C and antagonised by B...
PH Swing: In hydro is common and yeah daily swings are normal until the system is established. When I ran DWC I could control swings with the amount of bubbles introduced into the system. Low bubbles and PH dropped, crank it up and PH went up. You could also need to add some ca:mg to the system to try and get it to buffer better.
Nute Line: You are using sux as a buffer. One of the rare times that I say an overpriced bottle line is good at something, but (an) bottle line is good at something; I know works well in DWC for it's buffering.
Cl Based Sanitizing: I would use H2O2 instead. IF you do use Cl, I would not use more than 1 capful per gallon, and would never use it on hydroton, inner buckets i.e. closed system because of the surface area to be cleaned and residuals left in the system. The H2O2 will break down after a day or so to plain H2O.
These are all just general remarks, not to be taken as a 'definitive' anything.
Freddie Millergogo
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What kind of lights are you running too? Small plants do not like Metal Halide or even bright COBs. Babies like T5/T8s and even weak Burple LEDs.
vostok
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Cx2H
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You could get a Cl test kit, like paper strips for the pool and see if you are reading anything. Before zeroing in on the Cl.
If I got positive high Cl read, I would flush out the entire system, soak the hydroton and test again after soaking. OR drop in some ascorbic acid to deal with the Cl.
If I got positive high Cl read, I would flush out the entire system, soak the hydroton and test again after soaking. OR drop in some ascorbic acid to deal with the Cl.
BecauseIgotHigh
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Wash the whole system if you already used it and think theirs bleach inside...Pumps too dont forget... keep p.h to 5.8-6, you can just use plain water until they both come back alive. The very first picture looks like shes able to come back.
Go buy some soda water and spray it, every 2-3 days.
Go buy some soda water and spray it, every 2-3 days.
ligrow
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They were under t5, now under cob. This could also be the issue.
thanks for the info. I will see if I can find some test kits from local store.
Do you think they are going to come back alive?
What's soda water for?
ligrow
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That's a really nice cloner you made. Thanks for the link!
ligrow
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And also EC raise from 0.7 to 1.5 in two days. I don't think 0.7 were too high for this size of plant. They were in 0.8 when in Dwc. Without any problem by then
I took all my clone out back to clone tent under T5
change the res and flood the system twice.
res dont smell much, but hydroton is still smell like bleach
I took all my clone out back to clone tent under T5
change the res and flood the system twice.
res dont smell much, but hydroton is still smell like bleach
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BecauseIgotHigh
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co2 boost. Not sure whats will happen for yours, but my plants love it. Takes about 1 hr to see the effects. I have a gopro, so Id some time to do some recordings, and seen the growth size rate.
Folair feeding received nutes faster than the roots. I have 4 wwxbb seedlings transplanted coco to dwc. Sprayed some carbonated water/ soda water and they are all pointing up straight. These are seedlings that weren't taking good care off, like barely any care.
Let me say if you are able to revert back to DWC, and feed using water, about 1 week your plant will be back up and healthy. Takes me about a full week to get roots out from the netpots, but I have a drip system at the beginning so my RW are always moist from the top to bottom.
butterbudface
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Its the bleach, i once did they same and the plants looked the same, i flushed them with clean phed water, half of the died other half recovered
ligrow
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How did you get rid of bleach on hydroton. Seems like my res don't have CI after I add hypo in res. But when I pick up some hydroton, it still have some bleach smell on it.
butterbudface
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i'd chuck it out and get some new hydroton, but i'm sure if you rinse it with plenty of water it will wash away.