Is there an ugly plant thread?

MichiganMedGrower

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Looks like you grew them great. But why cut all the branches and leaves off? That's what's ugly. And it cut half the yield.

Maybe try training the whole plant for your space and encourage branching.

Just a suggestion.
 

Tigerpaws

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Looks like you grew them great. But why cut all the branches and leaves off? That's what's ugly. And it cut half the yield.

Maybe try training the whole plant for your space and encourage branching.

Just a suggestion.
I had no idea what I was doing. They were going to be deck plants. I didnt have an indoor space yet. They started getting bugs on them so I brought them in and built the space. My next run are manifolded with tomato cages. I'm still not exactly sure how to prune them but at least they shouldn't be as floppy since I'll have something to tie to.
 

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Tigerpaws

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With this technique am I supposed to keep taking off sucker shoots and just leaving the main stem all the way up until flower?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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With this technique am I supposed to keep taking off sucker shoots and just leaving the main stem all the way up until flower?
I highly recommend you grow a plant naturally and just bend it when it gets taller in veg and watch what happens. Advanced techniques are for well, the advanced.

I never cut my plant up. It stresses them.

I just use LST. This plant is 30" tall and about that wide. It will likely yield over 4 oz. of dense tops.

I grew it 14 inches tall in veg and bent it during week 2 of flower and when it branches up and needs it just stake and tie it to fit.

Or do it in veg then flower it like a little bush. All of the original branches are on this seed plant. And most of the leaves.

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Hope this is helpful. I have never manifolded a plant before. I just like to keep them happy. They return the favor.
 

Tigerpaws

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I highly recommend you grow a plant naturally and just bend it when it gets taller in veg and watch what happens. Advanced techniques are for well, the advanced.

I never cut my plant up. It stresses them.

I just use LST. This plant is 30" tall and about that wide. It will likely yield over 4 oz. of dense tops.

I grew it 14 inches tall in veg and bent it during week 2 of flower and when it branches up and needs it just stake and tie it to fit.

Or do it in veg then flower it like a little bush. All of the original branches are on this seed plant. And most of the leaves.

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Hope this is helpful. I have never manifolded a plant before. I just like to keep them happy. They return the favor.
Nice plant! So you just bent it 90 degrees breaking the main stalk?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Nice plant! So you just bent it 90 degrees breaking the main stalk?
Good question.

I use the large black and silver paper clips clipped to the edge of my pot. The little handles are where I attach the soft tie. You could use many things for this with some imagination but you don't want to cut into the stem or make a loop so tight it can't grow.

Then I brace the base of the trunk so it can't pull the roots up when I bend the top.

Then I bend the plant only as much as it allows without breaking. Sometimes I do it a little at a time over a couple of days. And you have to keep training them sometimes to maintain the top low. You need the top the way you asked. I basically let the plant grow to the max I let them and bend it in half.

It is good to do it a few hours after watering while they are moist flexible and vigorous.

The object is to break the dominance of the top and the side branches will grow up to become tops themselves.

You can also supercrop which is squeezing and bending the stem. I use both techniques now.

I think I have a pic. I will look and post it.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Ok. Here are some pics. I didn't have the shots of the bending of 1 plant I must have deleted after but these should give you plenty to get started.

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And thanks for the compliment. I have been running a perpetual garden within plant count for 3 years now. Still trying to improve as much as I can every seed I plant.
 

Tigerpaws

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Good question.

I use the large black and silver paper clips clipped to the edge of my pot. The little handles are where I attach the soft tie. You could use many things for this with some imagination but you don't want to cut into the stem or make a loop so tight it can't grow.

Then I brace the base of the trunk so it can't pull the roots up when I bend the top.

Then I bend the plant only as much as it allows without breaking. Sometimes I do it a little at a time over a couple of days. And you have to keep training them sometimes to maintain the top low. You need the top the way you asked. I basically let the plant grow to the max I let them and bend it in half.

It is good to do it a few hours after watering while they are moist flexible and vigorous.

The object is to break the dominance of the top and the side branches will grow up to become tops themselves.

You can also supercrop which is squeezing and bending the stem. I use both techniques now.

I think I have a pic. I will look and post it.
Great info and pics! Thank you very much! I will try this with my next grow. I really like the idea of not cutting much. I was just worried I would end up with more of these tall floppy ones so I tried the manifold.
 

Tigerpaws

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Ok. Here are some pics. I didn't have the shots of the bending of 1 plant I must have deleted after but these should give you plenty to get started.

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And thanks for the compliment. I have been running a perpetual garden within plant count for 3 years now. Still trying to improve as much as I can every seed I plant.
So that flowering plant in the last pic was never topped and you didn't cut any branches off of it? Did you let the tie off of it once it was trained down? Mine seem to have dozens of little branches coming off everywhere. Maybe its the strain??
 

MichiganMedGrower

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So that flowering plant in the last pic was never topped and you didn't cut any branches off of it? Did you let the tie off of it once it was trained down? Mine seem to have dozens of little branches coming off everywhere. Maybe its the strain??
No. I usually have to keep it tied up once I start or I end up with a dominant cola anyway. The plan is as many tops level under the lamp as possible.

If I top instead. Which was not done on that plant.
I end up with a more compact plant. And with my 6 week veg I end up with less yield because unless the plant has sufficient time to grow new equivalent foliage the big top is still gone. And I don't have time or space to make that work. Although it might be less work overall. But if I grew plants together rather than my system of about 1 plant per week harvest I top to keep an even veg canopy without them bushing out too much and crowding.

But what I have shown doesn't even have any lower branch cuttings taken. And may have its original single leaves even. I grow to maintain to the end if I can.

As you get better at keeping the plants healthy the yield and quality will follow.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Here is that last plant after we stripped the leaves for harvest and untied her. The other benefit of bending is opening the plant up so lesser branches can make big buds. This plant took a little work to keep her low. Each one is a little different.


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Brown_Thumb

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Holy crap... ya'll consider those ugly?? Mine are absolute junk compared to any of yours. I tend to kill everything I try to grow.
 

MrBD

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First grow. I'm so disappointed. I started these back in may so i have a ton of time invested. I didnt know how to prune, I nute burned them and let them get too tall. Buds are floppy and hanging down everywhere. I can't wait to chop them and start over!
Lol, dude those are looking great. Sure they aren't perfect but once it's all trimmed and done you're going to getting high af. Good job
 

Tigerpaws

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Here is that last plant after we stripped the leaves for harvest and untied her. The other benefit of bending is opening the plant up so lesser branches can make big buds. This plant took a little work to keep her low. Each one is a little different.


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Thank you so much for taking the time to explain all of that to me! With so much help on here I'm bound to get better!
 
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