Need advise

[dargd1]

Ok here it is.
White Widow 2 plants put into MG seed starter soil mixed with perilite and organic potting soil. Has been in soil for about 13 days now. They are in a 4 X 4 grow tent. I have an oscillating fan on them on low. I have a 6" circulation fan on low above them. There is a 6" exhaust fan up top in the tent. I am using I KindLED 750 w grow light. It is about 50" above the plant and set at 18% red, 35% blue and 35% white. On average they are watered roughly every 5 days, when soil is on the dry side down 1 1/2" into the soil. The water is Ph'd around 6.5. PPM around 260. I started them under a florescent light. about 5 days after they sprouted I put them into the grow tent. Growth slowed down for a couple days. I am guessing from the stress of being moved into a different environment. The center of the leafs and new leaves are a bit yellow. I am not comfortable with that and am not sure why> I originally thought the lights were to close so I moved them up to the 50". On the last watering a few days ago I added a little bit of nuts. FoxFarm Big bloom, wholly macro and boomarang at very low dosage Ph 6.3 ppm 374. The yellowing in the center of leaves is still prevelant. I started 3 different strains one each a week after these first two. they seem to be doing ok. They were put into Foxfarm light warrior soil. The center of those are also a little on the yellow side. They are exposed to average temp 75 degree, humidity average 48% 18 hours of light each day. One of them the leaves are drooping just a little. Any recommendations on the yellowing? Could it possibly be a little wind burn from the oscillating fan?

 

[HydoDan]

Plants are stretching and turning yellow because they are to far from the light.. lower the light a little at a time until you find the sweet spot... they don't look bad!

 

[wildfire97936]

Why are you using fox farm big bloom on seedlings? Big bloom is for when your are flowering. Seedlings need something to help build roots, and after a lil bit you can give them growth nutes. If you're leaves stay yellow or a light light green that is usually the sign of a nitrogen defficeny
For roots try Technaflora root 66
Also Technaflora Sugar daddy. You can use it to help all stages of growth.

 

[dargd1]

Why are you using fox farm big bloom on seedlings? Big bloom is for when your are flowering. Seedlings need something to help build roots, and after a lil bit you can give them growth nutes. If you're leaves stay yellow or a light light green that is usually the sign of a nitrogen defficeny
For roots try Technaflora root 66
Also Technaflora Sugar daddy. You can use it to help all stages of growth.

Only reason why on the Big Bloom is because FF recommends using it as early as seedling stage. I planted in FF Light Warrior and it also recommended using it as early as seedling. I am not using their recommendation of 6 tsp per gallon; about every 2nd to 3rd watering I use 2 tsp per gallon. Should I expect problems doing that?

 

[dargd1]

Plants are stretching and turning yellow because they are to far from the light.. lower the light a little at a time until you find the sweet spot... they don't look bad!

Have been messing around with light. Lowered it to date down to 28", 23%red 40%blue 40%white. Nervous about going lower because of burning up test plant at normal intensity and the light was all the way up. Color of plants look better.

 

[wildfire97936]

Only reason why on the Big Bloom is because FF recommends using it as early as seedling stage. I planted in FF Light Warrior and it also recommended using it as early as seedling. I am not using their recommendation of 6 tsp per gallon; about every 2nd to 3rd watering I use 2 tsp per gallon. Should I expect problems doing that?

Most people start off with a reduced amount of nutrients and slowly increase or decrease the amount depending on how the plants react. In my experience most strains have their own needs, but you'll see similar needs with similar genetics

I've used fox farm soil but not their big bloom nutes. Kinda surprised they say use it as early as seedling stage. Most bloom boosters don't get used till flower while there's a few I've seen that are used during veg

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

actually a lot of products for potting and transplant stress are nearly identical with bloom nutes, plants need a lot more P to grow roots than they need N

 

[wildfire97936]

True. I could see the benifits of that. I've just always had good luck with a mixture of rooting supplement, sugar daddy and carboload. I use it on my seedlings and my clones when I transfer them.
Also if you wanna try the most low budget easiest way to clone. I got a way. Most people would hate on it but it works for me majority of the time

 

[dargd1]

Most people start off with a reduced amount of nutrients and slowly increase or decrease the amount depending on how the plants react. In my experience most strains have their own needs, but you'll see similar needs with similar genetics

I've used fox farm soil but not their big bloom nutes. Kinda surprised they say use it as early as seedling stage. Most bloom boosters don't get used till flower while there's a few I've seen that are used during veg

I am using the BB Boomerang and Wholly Mackerel at 1/3 of recommended. Learning as I go...lol

 

[dargd1]

True. I could see the benifits of that. I've just always had good luck with a mixture of rooting supplement, sugar daddy and carboload. I use it on my seedlings and my clones when I transfer them.
Also if you wanna try the most low budget easiest way to clone. I got a way. Most people would hate on it but it works for me majority of the time

I'm not saying I am doing it right. It is a starting point. Working through it. The good part is if I kill them I have plenty more seeds to work on till I get it right...lol............I am watching them like a hawk hopeing for a complete growth cycle to harvest.

 

[wildfire97936]

I'm not saying I am doing it right. It is a starting point. Working through it. The good part is if I kill them I have plenty more seeds to work on till I get it right...lol............I am watching them like a hawk hopeing for a complete growth cycle to harvest.

For sure. That was a reply to @Roger A. Shrubber

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

#1 you never feed seedlings any nutrients,especially when they are growing in a nutrient rich soil like you have them in.

#2 if your going to feed them anything bloom nutes are the polar opposite of what a seedling can absorb,at the seedling stage the only macro jute the plants need is N & regular potting soil has plenty,fox farm soil unmixed is likely a hot soil with too much nutrients for seedlings .

#3 your light is way to far away & will sretch the plants to 18 inches tall quicker than shit .

Lower the light,stop feeding any nutrients for a week or 2 & the plants should improve .

 

[dargd1]

So by all of the feed back everyone says lower the light...lol.....So I lowered the light to 20" and left the intensity the same for now 23%red 40%blue 40%white. I appreciate all the feed back..Oh ya...I will lay off the nuts for now.

 

[Illinois Enema Bandit]

So by all of the feed back everyone says lower the light...lol.....So I lowered the light to 20" and left the intensity the same for now 23%red 40%blue 40%white. I appreciate all the feed back..Oh ya...I will lay off the nuts for now.

if this is one of your 1 st grows the best 5 things you can do to assure you have a good harvest are #1,feed as little as possible,as long as you have a good soil mix only feed once a month in veg,feed once during transition to bud,then feed low ppm bloom nutes of 200 ppm or less every 2 weeks during bud cycle.

The #2 step to assure a good harvest is to keep your light riding the plant canopy within an inch,as long as the glass is cool to the touch allow the plants to grow up into the light until all plants have an even canopy,then keep lights no further than 1 inch away.

#3 Humidity,keep it at 30% or less at all times.

#4 Heat,temps at the canopy & in the room should be below 80 degrees at all times .

#5 air flow,having clean fresh air blowing thru the entire plants is paramount for healthy strong mold free buds.

The way to get very good at growing weed very fast is to do the bare minimum the 1st grow,especially with feeding nutes ,watering & nutrient laden soils,on your 2nd grow if you kept the 1st ultra simple you'll know exactly what a healthy plant looks like,on your 2nd grow you up the nutrients 100 ppm every feeding & build from there,follow that routine to the letter & resist the urge to do more,by your 3rd grow you'll be a master grower & have avoided all the newb mistakes of burnt overfed plants & over watered moldy plants .

 

[wildfire97936]

I don't think that guy read your post at all. You DO NOT want your plant right against the light. Maybe if you're using t-5s but doubtful. I've seen cfl's cause temp damage from a 6inches away I can only imagain 1in would be a lot worst
2nd I have never, and I mean never heard someone tell a first time grower to only give nutrients once a month during veg. Especially considering the don't even seem to know what soil you are using. I had great soil my first go around and I fed my ladies at least twice a week in veg. 3-4 times a week in bloom. I flushed every week but that was my personal preference.
Also, I had my humidity vary from 50-30% and had no problems in my grow room. At the time I lived in an area where the humidity was regularly 50-90% daily and the plants I grew outside got over 7 feet. Strains of weed are tropical, look at what's in Jamaica. Can you imagine the humidity there being less than 30% at all times? I can't.
Told ya, beware of opinions disguised as advice. All I'm sayin is what I've seen firsthand with my own eyes work. Follow it or not it's your choice. But don't buy into that snake oil this guy is selling you

 

[HydoDan]

Exactly, never make a decision based on one person's opinion.. get a general consensus of at least three growers before you make a decision... any led at 1" will overcook...

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

if you're using t5s you can almost touch your plants with them, any other kind of light, not a good idea.
you feed seedlings and young clones when they look like they need fed. if they start to get a little faded, feed em.
if you have 30% humidity with young plants, they get crispy, way too much energy spent on respiration, not enough on growing.
80 is ok.......
a gentle breeze blowing through foliage is enough, you don't want strong air movement through your canopy, see the respiration statement above

 

[dargd1]

I don't think that guy read your post at all. You DO NOT want your plant right against the light. Maybe if you're using t-5s but doubtful. I've seen cfl's cause temp damage from a 6inches away I can only imagain 1in would be a lot worst
2nd I have never, and I mean never heard someone tell a first time grower to only give nutrients once a month during veg. Especially considering the don't even seem to know what soil you are using. I had great soil my first go around and I fed my ladies at least twice a week in veg. 3-4 times a week in bloom. I flushed every week but that was my personal preference.
Also, I had my humidity vary from 50-30% and had no problems in my grow room. At the time I lived in an area where the humidity was regularly 50-90% daily and the plants I grew outside got over 7 feet. Strains of weed are tropical, look at what's in Jamaica. Can you imagine the humidity there being less than 30% at all times? I can't.
Told ya, beware of opinions disguised as advice. All I'm sayin is what I've seen firsthand with my own eyes work. Follow it or not it's your choice. But don't buy into that snake oil this guy is selling you

Lol...I absorb everything I see, but use common sense. I do know better than to put a KindLED 750W right up against my tops especially at full intensity. I am wanting to grow not cook my plants. I also will be using nutrients during this grow. How else will I learn about the products I intend to use----> how much and how often; and how they effect the different stains I grow.....during each stage. That is how I learn. Each setup, product and strain react differently during grow stages. I fully understand the basics. But I do appreciate input.

 

[dazzyballz]

I don't think that guy read your post at all. You DO NOT want your plant right against the light. Maybe if you're using t-5s but doubtful. I've seen cfl's cause temp damage from a 6inches away I can only imagain 1in would be a lot worst
2nd I have never, and I mean never heard someone tell a first time grower to only give nutrients once a month during veg. Especially considering the don't even seem to know what soil you are using. I had great soil my first go around and I fed my ladies at least twice a week in veg. 3-4 times a week in bloom. I flushed every week but that was my personal preference.
Also, I had my humidity vary from 50-30% and had no problems in my grow room. At the time I lived in an area where the humidity was regularly 50-90% daily and the plants I grew outside got over 7 feet. Strains of weed are tropical, look at what's in Jamaica. Can you imagine the humidity there being less than 30% at all times? I can't.
Told ya, beware of opinions disguised as advice. All I'm sayin is what I've seen firsthand with my own eyes work. Follow it or not it's your choice. But don't buy into that snake oil this guy is selling you

Yea i agree with you mate,wait two week in soil then feed maybe less and carry on upping all way to flower then last two week use clean water,eg no nutes left in her and plant yellows at the bottom (usually)then harvezt.

 

[dargd1]

if you're using t5s you can almost touch your plants with them, any other kind of light, not a good idea.
you feed seedlings and young clones when they look like they need fed. if they start to get a little faded, feed em.
if you have 30% humidity with young plants, they get crispy, way too much energy spent on respiration, not enough on growing.
80 is ok.......
a gentle breeze blowing through foliage is enough, you don't want strong air movement through your canopy, see the respiration statement above

Temp average is 75-78, humidity average 45-50%. I am very comfortable with that. Besides I am way past this thread see Grow Journal....Plants are doing fine. They are being watered when needed, fed when needed and light adjusted as needed based off of suggestions and common sense. I almost understand my lighting now....lol