testiclees
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agree, also slow release with trace elements and also encourages fungi.
I always use alfalfa straw. last couple pots i put some dried nettle and horse grass down first, straw on top. Worms dig it.
Can molasses cause soil ph problems?
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I always use alfalfa straw. last couple pots i put some dried nettle and horse grass down first, straw on top. Worms dig it.
Rasta Roy
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Sounds like this nutrient Im working on called Nectar of My Nuts. It's just molasses amd barley extract that has been poured on my crotch and allowed to wash over my balls but imma write like a paragraph of feel good nonsense on the bottle and the grow store is gonna push that shit for 50 bucks a gallon....
Sorry.
It's been a long day.
D port Growth
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Hate all you want you hater.
add to your teas for microbial food. as we were talking about how molasses is not the best. Yes mulch is best for carbon.. which i use rice hulls and canna leaves and lactobacillus.
it works peroid. Point is this is 1000% better and more microbe available food source for a tea.
Jesus... organic gardeners are so whiny... it comes from a bottle oh no!! no everyone needs to scrimp and save on their grows some people use bottles some don't.
add to your teas for microbial food. as we were talking about how molasses is not the best. Yes mulch is best for carbon.. which i use rice hulls and canna leaves and lactobacillus.
it works peroid. Point is this is 1000% better and more microbe available food source for a tea.
Jesus... organic gardeners are so whiny... it comes from a bottle oh no!! no everyone needs to scrimp and save on their grows some people use bottles some don't.
its all a learning process and some people act like they know everything. PEACE and LOVE
testiclees
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Do you soil test? I used to use all my trimmings. many of the high brix growers use their trimmings.
I am trying to get my high K in balance. When i stopped adding trimmings my K dropped. I'm not 100% that it was only the trimmings but next soil test would give me some pretty good evidence.
Rasta Roy
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I was just joshin with ya! I was up for forty eight hours rewiring my whole set up getting ready for a city inspection. Was on the forum before I passed out. I was trying to come off as jokingly hostile but like I said...I was tired lol.
D port Growth
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get some sleep yo!
HarryKovert
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Think there's plenty of "The Emperor's New Clothes" about this industry......and plenty of others mind.
Those that do their research are hopefully able to separate the wheat from the chaff!
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testiclees
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*chaff
Check spelling before advocating research.
That's about all I use it for also and then mainly for the soil gardens or to give a freshly made mix a jump start. It has been literally years since it's been added to growing plants or mix that has had anything grown in it.
Yeah, it doesn't seem to get mentioned much that excess K will lock out Ca along with the converse, that excess Ca will lock out the K.
I've done both. First, from getting too happy with ProTekt when I first started using it in a mix that had more than enough K from the kelp meal used and the second from too much gypsum in an already rich in Ca mix.
Lessons learned. Now, the Protekt is 1/4 - 1/2 tsp/gallon of water every 2 weeks or so and the gypsum is just lightly top dressed, if needed, as there are several Ca sources in the mix from the git go.
Wet
testiclees
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Ya i hear that. I stopped using potassium silicate products all together there are calcium silicates and other silicic acid products that wont screw up uour Ca/K balance.
more info around transduction pathways. http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/content/92/1/1.full.pdf+html Aspects of Plants Intelligence
PLANT MEMORY AND INFORMATION
RETRIEVAL
In nervous systems, new connections (dendrites) between
nerve cells may form the basis of memory (Kandel, 2001)
and loss of the dendrite coincides with loss of memory.
What is required for memory is an ability to access past
experience so that new responses incorporate relevant
information from the past. Many different forms of plant
memory can be envisaged, all of which modify signal
transduction, from the current chemistry and enzymology of
membranes (Gilroy and Trewavas, 2001) or wall charac-
teristics (Trewavas, 1999), to prior expression of particular
genes. It is also clear that the history of stimulation modiÆes
subsequent transduction (Ingolis and Murray, 2002) and, in
plants, intepretation through [Ca2+]
is likewise modiÆed by
previous signalling, ensuring another form of memory is
present (Trewavas, 1999). All these forms of memory can be
recognized by the ability to interact with, and modify, the
transduction pathways to new signals. The only requirement
is merely that the memory can be accessed and can inØuence
the response to the current signal. A more complex form of
memory requires information storage of previous signalling,
with the ability to retrieve the information at a much later
time. Both forms occur in plants.
PLANT MEMORY AND INFORMATION
RETRIEVAL
In nervous systems, new connections (dendrites) between
nerve cells may form the basis of memory (Kandel, 2001)
and loss of the dendrite coincides with loss of memory.
What is required for memory is an ability to access past
experience so that new responses incorporate relevant
information from the past. Many different forms of plant
memory can be envisaged, all of which modify signal
transduction, from the current chemistry and enzymology of
membranes (Gilroy and Trewavas, 2001) or wall charac-
teristics (Trewavas, 1999), to prior expression of particular
genes. It is also clear that the history of stimulation modiÆes
subsequent transduction (Ingolis and Murray, 2002) and, in
plants, intepretation through [Ca2+]
is likewise modiÆed by
previous signalling, ensuring another form of memory is
present (Trewavas, 1999). All these forms of memory can be
recognized by the ability to interact with, and modify, the
transduction pathways to new signals. The only requirement
is merely that the memory can be accessed and can inØuence
the response to the current signal. A more complex form of
memory requires information storage of previous signalling,
with the ability to retrieve the information at a much later
time. Both forms occur in plants.