DIY Passive cooling with PIN Heatsinks SST120 and SST140

[sixstring2112]

Epsom salts is really not even salt.its a mineral.magnesium and sulfate.and the old saying,if it comes in a bottle its not organic,is still 99% true. But like robin said even sand is technically not considered organic,what a joke.the plant changes all the chemical components into other components and uses it how it wants to anyways.i see people using kelp in middle America and i have to wonder how many fossil fuels were used to get that on the shelf and then into the container and finally transformed into the tip of the plant.i used ionic for years because its bottled here in Michigan but switched to jacks because its even cheaper

 

[sixstring2112]

Anyways i keep clicking this thread hoping to see some pics of a new heatsink robin,wink wink. Whats cookin @ northern grow lights brosef?

 

[hayrolld]

Lol, maybe some people are taking this a bit too seriously/literal

People get way too hung up on the word "organic". It can be a useful distinction in the food industry, but I feel like natural is more useful for our kind of growing. Ingredients that are naturally grown, or naturally occurring minerals, etc.

 

[robincnn]

Thanks for that mineral and sulphates knowledge.

i used ionic for years because its bottled here in Michigan but switched to jacks because its even cheaper

What's this ionic.

Anyways i keep clicking this thread hoping to see some pics of a new heatsink robin,wink wink. Whats cookin @ northern grow lights brosef?

Heatsinks flowering too
It's on boat. I will have some airshipped samples end of this month.

 

[Evil-Mobo]

What's this ionic

http://growershouse.com/nutrients/nutrients-brands/nutrients-ionic

 

[Aruanda]

People get way too hung up on the word "organic". It can be a useful distinction in the food industry, but I feel like natural is more useful for our kind of growing. Ingredients that are naturally grown, or naturally occurring minerals, etc.

By that merit then Epsom salt is a 'naturally occurring' salt/mineral. Though not sure how mass production happens...

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate

 

[ttystikk]

By that merit then Epsom salt is a 'naturally occurring' salt/mineral. Though not sure how mass production happens...

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate

Most epsom salt comes from the same place most nutrient salts come from; byproducts of fossil fuel refining.

 

[Aruanda]

Well, again, I think I may be dragging on a topic that maybe should be taken to another thread as its not related to the one at hand.

Or at least, that's as much as I'd like to say/ask about that, lol.

 

[pop22]

the two most over-used but least understood words in gardening: Organic and Chemical. Good vs Evil and most have it wrong. Organics are "chemicals" and minerals are, all of them, and their ionics forms which plants need. Mineral nutrients are chelated more often than not, with organic chelation chemicals. Not one person in discussions on this has ever identified what the evil "chemical" is in bottled nutes.

And those minerals in your organic soil? Useless until bacteria and fungi break them down into "salts", ionic forms of the needed minerals, by chelation with organic chemicals.......
The only real problem with bottled and dry mineral nutes is the damage the excess nitrogen and phosphorus do to the environment when are used excessively in outdoor gardens and farms. They also do nothing to condition the soil.

Turns out not even soil or sand is considered organic compound

 

[ttystikk]

the two most over-used but least understood words in gardening: Organic and Chemical. Good vs Evil and most have it wrong. Organics are "chemicals" and minerals are, all of them, and their ionics forms which plants need. Mineral nutrients are chelated more often than not, with organic chelation chemicals. Not one person in discussions on this has ever identified what the evil "chemical" is in bottled nutes.

And those minerals in your organic soil? Useless until bacteria and fungi break them down into "salts", ionic forms of the needed minerals, by chelation with organic chemicals.......
The only real problem with bottled and dry mineral nutes is the damage the excess nitrogen and phosphorus do to the environment when are used excessively in outdoor gardens and farms. They also do nothing to condition the soil.

Well put.

I'd add that dry chemical nutrients are just as effective as water bottles with sexy names and fancy labels- just far, far cheaper.

 

[pop22]

I agree completely! Unless you buy from ripoffs like Rock....

must say though, I have been using an unusual dry nutrient, GrowMore Sea Grow. Its a Seaweed based nutrient that also contains mineral based micro nutrients, kinda the best of both worlds. Its in that crystal like form and dissolves just as completely as regular dry mineral nutes. I've been running straight with just the veg nute with good success. I'm trying the bloom formula next, then a custom mix of the two. It is a little more expensive than regular dry nutes but, IMO may be worth it, and is still much cheaper than that 90% water bottled nutes people blow their money on.


Here's a Royal Queen Shining Silver Haze grown with Sea Grow 16-16-16, and yes, I'm replacing that shitty light with a DIY COB light shortly!

Well put.

I'd add that dry chemical nutrients are just as effective as water bottles with sexy names and fancy labels- just far, far cheaper.

 

[pop22]

and that's a 4'x4' by who knows how tall...lol.....plant growing in a 3.9 gallon auto pot

 

[pop22]

Ok so I'm still not finding anything for the CLU058 1825, and that's a 36mm yes? Anyone else find anything useful for this chip? I want to mount a reflector also. these lenses get HOT.

EDIT: 1825 not 1925...lol

i guess i dont get this there are tons and tons of options for mounting and optics of the 28mm chips. there are like 5 or 6 chip manufacturers in that size.

there are an equal number of drivers for 50V chips as 36V chips so no limitations there

 

[robincnn]

Ok so I'm still not finding anything for the CLU058 1825, and that's a 36mm yes? Anyone else find anything useful for this chip? I want to mount a reflector also. these lenses get HOT.
EDIT: 1825 not 1925...lol

Get rid of the lens. run bare. Sorry your test kit had a smaller heatsink.
Dim for a while. You can upgrade to SSTX in few weeks. Then you can run each cob and 100 watts

 

[robincnn]

@sixstring2112 future electronics decided to ship me 50pcs Vero 29 Gen 7 3000K 80 CRI. palced a PO 7 weeks back.
I listed on website. You want some ?
They are the 50-52V version

 

[sixstring2112]

@sixstring2112 future electronics decided to ship me 50pcs Vero 29 Gen 7 3000K 80 CRI. palced a PO 7 weeks back.
I listed on website. You want some ?
They are the 50-52V version

I will crunch the numbers when i get home,how they will be with my 1050ma and 1400ma drivers.prob dont work with those smaller 120mm heatsinks do they?
Pm me prices with the other stuff please

 

[robincnn]

I will crunch the numbers when i get home,how they will be with my 1050ma and 1400ma drivers.prob dont work with those smaller 120mm heatsinks do they?
Pm me prices with the other stuff please

1400 is too much on 52V cob for 120mm
1050 will work fine

I will crunch the numbers

Look who is crunching numbers
Awesome bro.

 

[sixstring2112]

I been crunching numbers all day,shits out of control.looks like the 2700k cree gives me the stretch im after lol.

 

[PerroVerde]

I been crunching numbers all day,shits out of control.looks like the 2700k cree gives me the stretch im after lol.

Or just add some 660nm and 730nm monos, time them and stop the stretch when you want...

 

[pop22]

No need tom apologize. As this is a test, I'll complete a grow as is, be good to see the results. I've been considering running them bare as I'm going to convert to vertical SCROG. Running bare will let me run them closer. I also plan to see if I can run 2 4'x5.5' screens in one 4'x4' tent, one at each end with lights in the middle.

I'm loving the light, just pointing out what I feel could to be different for my needs!

Get rid of the lens. run bare. Sorry your test kit had a smaller heatsink.
Dim for a while. You can upgrade to SSTX in few weeks. Then you can run each cob and 100 watts