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bob223

bob223

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ilovetoskiatalta said:
What do you know about the 315lecwith flowering time ? Longer or shorter @GroErr
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I'm Not GroErr but i will weigh in on this.

I do notice that plants Mature slightly faster then under HPS. It seems like 3 to 4 days faster 7 days max
But what i have done is run my plants for the same amount of time as the hps and enjoyed the results.

The finished bud seems better (potency, density, crystal formation) In my opinion a extra few days never hurts
 
GroErr

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ilovetoskiatalta said:
What do you know about the 315lecwith flowering time ? Longer or shorter @GroErr
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Much like @bob223 said, 4-7 days shorter depending on strain, I have a pheno I was running under CMH that was typically 60 days and it takes about 66 under COBs. They start off quick and hold that throughout the cycle, main things most folks are seeing is the quick start compared to pretty well any lighting for some reason.
 
Javadog

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While I do check trichs, I like to push my plants to the edge, for the
extra taste more than anything else.....I am betting that I will find myself
being forced to harvest here and there....and a difference in those numbers
really ought to be something that I will notice.

We will see. It is so very cool to see 315W make a 4' tent work.*

JD

* OK, so it is not packed to the gills. It might be in time....we will see. :0)
 
ilovetoskiatalta

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My Cheese plant is day 48 of 12/12 and she just yellowed her fan leaves over night. I have been feeding her FF Big Bloom Tiger Bloom and up until this last feeding Grow Big( I always give nitrogen up to week 5 then I flush for a week). I have a feeding of BB and TB a few days ago?
It says its an 8 week strain but I never believe what they say. Trichomes are coming on nicely.

Third pic she is the tall one.Last Pis is group shot. My other plants are Critical Widow and Calio-O they had some fan leaves yellow but not like the cheese. Temps are 75 day and 64 at night. RH is upper 30's to mid 40's
Any thoughts? @GroErr @BobBitchen
 

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bob223

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ilovetoskiatalta said:
My Cheese plant is day 48 of 12/12 and she just yellowed her fan leaves over night. I have been feeding her FF Big Bloom Tiger Bloom and up until this last feeding Grow Big( I always give nitrogen up to week 5 then I flush for a week). I have a feeding of BB and TB a few days ago?
It says its an 8 week strain but I never believe what they say. Trichomes are coming on nicely.

Third pic she is the tall one.Last Pis is group shot. My other plants are Critical Widow and Calio-O they had some fan leaves yellow but not like the cheese. Temps are 75 day and 64 at night. RH is upper 30's to mid 40's
Any thoughts?
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Nice looking plants. how many days are you planning on running them?
Looks like you could go 60-66 at least

Is the cheese from clone or seed?
 
ilovetoskiatalta

ilovetoskiatalta

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bob223 said:
Nice looking plants. how many days are you planning on running them?
Looks like you could go 60-66 at least

Is the cheese from clone or seed?
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Thanks I am not sure how long I will run them. I am not familiar with this strain(Canuk Seeds Cheese says 8 weeks which means at least 9 to me, I like 70% milky and 30% amber trichomes).
My issue is the fan leaves just turned over night.
I flipped them on Sept 6 and they all got a feeding of Bud Blood. Regular feeding with FF BB TB and GB. My clone of that same plant also in 12/12 did not yellow like that plant.
Maybe it is just me, but the yellowing bothers me. My plants usually stay lush and green through most of flower.
The Sativa plants in front are Calio-O from Dutch passion which will be a 11 week strain and I figure the Critical Widow also from Canuk Seeds will go 9 maybe 10 weeks.
 
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Javadog

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GroErr has seen early finishes on the cycles he has run with the LEC.

If it is Day 48 of an 56 Day breed (in theory) then this might be what
you are seeing as well.

Perhaps you can just take it when the trich are right.

Do let us know what you see.

Good luck!

JD
 
GroErr

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Javadog said:
GroErr has seen early finishes on the cycles he has run with the LEC.

If it is Day 48 of an 56 Day breed (in theory) then this might be what
you are seeing as well.

Perhaps you can just take it when the trich are right.

Do let us know what you see.

Good luck!

JD
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After a couple of years and running several seeds I found most finish closer to the low end of breeder's times under the 315's. Could be just fading hard, or a lock out. Are they drinking at their normal rate or slowing down? They look like they could use 7-10 days under 315's, still some white hairs left to mature.
 
ilovetoskiatalta

ilovetoskiatalta

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All the big plants are from seed. I watered them friday night and then again this morning. They are drinking like normal. My only experience is under Hortilux 1000hps which almost always went a week past the breeders time line. I am usually the type to wait until I see a 20% amber trichomes. I will give it a few days and look at them under the scope. One of my critical widows is just pushing out new pistils and calyx's and it is rock solid. Even my California orange plants are starting to develop. It is a strong Sativa pheno.
pic 1 and 2 Critical Widow reminds me of a Citral I grew years back.
3rd is the cheese from seed
4th is the cheese clone from that plant
5th is the Cali-O
 

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Sire Killem All

Sire Killem All

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maybe i jus pull mime early but ive only ever had one plant with all orange/brown pistils at harvest.
Thought these seem to be colouring a lot faster then what i mnormally run.
 
ilovetoskiatalta

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so i finally busted out the 60x scope and checked the trichomes on my easy sativa and cheese and they are all still clear. So maybe they will bulk up even more?
 
Porky101

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Hi guys,

I am new to LEC/CMH.

I have only used HPS. I have used a 600w hps for over 5 years and always got nice dense buds that were full of crystals and plenty of taste.

I recently purchased some DE 1000W hps.

I have been doing research and it looks like 2x 315 CMH are similar to a 1000W hps.

I am guessing to match a 1000W DE hps you will need 3x 315CMH?


Now to my question! :

I have no doubt the spectrum is better with CMH, I am concerned about penetrative vs 1150W DE hps. Ultimately you only have 315 w vs almost 4x that from the HPS!

Anyways my question is will 3x CMH out perform the DE HPS?

Is it worth me changing? Are the results that much better??

I mean if it makes plants finish a week earlier then I'm already half sold...
 
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