soil too hot?

incogneato420

incogneato420

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Not sure what this is. I'm on my first grow and I'm having a hard time diagnosing this issue. It started on the bottom leaves first. These pics are a few days old but here they are:downloadfile.jpgholy grail kush 3 weeks from seed
downloadfile-1.jpg Cannalope haze 1 week from seed

They are both in black gold water hold, each under 2 60w equivalent CFLs. I flushed with 3:1 hydrogen peroxide water a few days ago and it seemed to help a little but the first set of leaves has pretty much died on both. They have been watered with 6.5 pH ro water. I'll take some pics when I get home tonight.
 
incogneato420

incogneato420

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20161006_045111.jpg Showing some type of deficiency
20161006_045152.jpg Looks more like nute burn on this one

I clipped the burned end off of the leaves on the bottom one and removed the first set of leaves on the top one
 
slow_grow

slow_grow

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Out of curiosity what is the cayenne pepper looking stuff sprinkled on the top in the first pics? In all pictures they seem droopy, possibly overwatered. I would imagine that given the fact that your using soil designed to hold water, a flush on plants this young and this droopy can't be a safe route unless you nuked them with nutes. That soil is also fortified with EWC so it would be pretty incredible to me if they needed more nutes.
 
incogneato420

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slow_grow said:
Out of curiosity what is the cayenne pepper looking stuff sprinkled on the top in the first pics? In all pictures they seem droopy, possibly overwatered. I would imagine that given the fact that your using soil designed to hold water, a flush on plants this young and this droopy can't be a safe route unless you nuked them with nutes. That soil is also fortified with EWC so it would be pretty incredible to me if they needed more nutes.
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I agree that theres no way they need food. The soil should still have plenty in it plus I gave a very light feeding a week and a half ago of nectar for the gods and some bio root. I'm thinking nute lockout. I definitely haven't over watered as I wait til its dry past my first nuckle and the cups are light. I may go ahead and flush with herculean harvest as that's supposed to help with nute lockout. That's cinnamon in the first pics lol, supposed to be anti fungal
 
moondance

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Yup yup everybody needs food, I forgot that on a big grow some years back, was racking my brain trying to figure it out, and the lovely Flaming Pie asked me what I was feed them and it was a book smack to the face, I feed them up and finished out the run with out issue. Thanks again @Flaming Pie, hope the baby is doing well!
Moondance
 
komoshan

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i recently started cutting holes around my small cereal bowl/dixie cup containers; wanted to give air pruning a try. It really affects how long you can keep them in those original starting containers if you don't have much room in your veg space if perpetual.

not that they're that big yet, but i've always had to transplant before with those cereal containers
 

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incogneato420

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komoshan said:
i recently started cutting holes around my small cereal bowl/dixie cup containers; wanted to give air pruning a try. It really affects how long you can keep them in those original starting containers if you don't have much room in your veg space if perpetual.

not that they're that big yet, but i've always had to transplant before with those cereal containers
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I have drainage holes in my solos and they do air prune for sure
 
incogneato420

incogneato420

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moondance said:
Yup yup everybody needs food, I forgot that on a big grow some years back, was racking my brain trying to figure it out, and the lovely Flaming Pie asked me what I was feed them and it was a book smack to the face, I feed them up and finished out the run with out issue. Thanks again @Flaming Pie, hope the baby is doing well!
Moondance
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Yea I had someone ask me on another forum, same booksmack epiphany. He was like water only in a soiless mix is a bad idea. But I'm not in a soiless........ohhhh:dunce:bongsmilie:wall:
 
komoshan

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incogneato420 said:
I have drainage holes in my solos and they do air prune for sure
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yea... i had drainage holes before they don't really air prune... as in eventually left in a cup in that shape or the shape mine are in the roots will eventually swirl around and stop producing new roots becoming rootbound.. of course i'm sure you transplant way before that's an issue. just thought something intteresting.

i was basically trying to make a ghetto version of these pots
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/55/26/c7/5526c7f8205f6ed211b6772d5b47636b.jpg
 
Flaming Pie

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komoshan said:
yea... i had drainage holes before they don't really air prune... as in eventually left in a cup in that shape or the shape mine are in the roots will eventually swirl around and stop producing new roots becoming rootbound.. of course i'm sure you transplant way before that's an issue. just thought something intteresting.

i was basically trying to make a ghetto version of these pots
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/55/26/c7/5526c7f8205f6ed211b6772d5b47636b.jpg
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You need airflow under the solo cup to get root pruning. I use a milk crate to set them on.
 
incogneato420

incogneato420

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komoshan said:
yea... i had drainage holes before they don't really air prune... as in eventually left in a cup in that shape or the shape mine are in the roots will eventually swirl around and stop producing new roots becoming rootbound.. of course i'm sure you transplant way before that's an issue. just thought something intteresting.

i was basically trying to make a ghetto version of these pots
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/55/26/c7/5526c7f8205f6ed211b6772d5b47636b.jpg
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Ghetto solo cup airpot....I like it. I didn't realize you meant holes all over the cup. Mine are just in the bottom
 
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