Diy CXB2530 grow

Budsturbation

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Hey Budsturbation apologies bro appreciated your opinion and hope I didn't do wrong by asking you question about my plant not trying to take over your thread just want to make sure I say that right here and now I for sure will be following your grows whenever you do something else got you locked in bro! Thanks anyone else checking Sig blogs should DM me to let me know what you think or leave comments at blog.
Hey man, no apologies necessary. people get uptight about growing sometimes and im definitely guilty of that from time to time, but we all gotta start somewhere. I prefer having some activity and some back and forth going on in my thread here.

Part of the reason why i let myself ramble and leave such long winded posts is because i have enough experience to have gone through with this diy grow, but as you can see by my thread ive still got a lot to learn lol. so i try to go over my thought process as much as possible. that way everyone can see what my reasoning is behind the decisions i make and when i look back on these threads i can learn from my mistakes.
 

majins

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You going to try 100% perlite next grow?
This harvest I did 3 in 100% perlite, 2 going well, 1 a bit thin and lanky due to being in the corner out of direct light.
The 2X DWC just took over the whole room lol. (Cant even get them out the door any more for res changes so have had to use a hose lol)

https://vid.me/SWa0
 

blackgolem

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You going to try 100% perlite next grow?
This harvest I did 3 in 100% perlite, 2 going well, 1 a bit thin and lanky due to being in the corner out of direct light.
The 2X DWC just took over the whole room lol. (Cant even get them out the door any more for res changes so have had to use a hose lol)

https://vid.me/SWa0
Hey Majing you talking to me or Budsturbation if it's me i will be trying the 100% perlite next time for sure about that though do you have yours set up with automatic feed or anything because I started to try but after washing it I didn't think the stuff would supply enough moisture to the plants
 

blackgolem

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You going to try 100% perlite next grow?
This harvest I did 3 in 100% perlite, 2 going well, 1 a bit thin and lanky due to being in the corner out of direct light.
The 2X DWC just took over the whole room lol. (Cant even get them out the door any more for res changes so have had to use a hose lol)

https://vid.me/SWa0
What wattage are your LED's that's pretty nice!!!
 

blackgolem

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Hey man, no apologies necessary. people get uptight about growing sometimes and im definitely guilty of that from time to time, but we all gotta start somewhere. I prefer having some activity and some back and forth going on in my thread here.

Part of the reason why i let myself ramble and leave such long winded posts is because i have enough experience to have gone through with this diy grow, but as you can see by my thread ive still got a lot to learn lol. so i try to go over my thought process as much as possible. that way everyone can see what my reasoning is behind the decisions i make and when i look back on these threads i can learn from my mistakes.
Thanks, be off in your next grow no doubt!
 

Budsturbation

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You going to try 100% perlite next grow?
This harvest I did 3 in 100% perlite, 2 going well, 1 a bit thin and lanky due to being in the corner out of direct light.
The 2X DWC just took over the whole room lol. (Cant even get them out the door any more for res changes so have had to use a hose lol)

https://vid.me/SWa0

Im definitely considering it. I dont think ill be able to fit as many plants into my room, but if they grow bigger in perlite then it probably won't matter. One thing im also concerned about is rootzone temps. it's fairly cold outside, sometimes the temps in my growbox are getting down to 4 degrees. Eventually im not going to be able to keep things above freezing. I feel like soil would be a better insulator than perlite and could help keep the roots at a better temperature during the colder months that I grow.

Then again soil seems to be a better environment for insects to inhabit. However I've seen some people post grow journals using perlite that also had issues with infestation. I've got a few months to think on it but im pretty sure im gonna give it a try.
 

majins

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Hey Majing you talking to me or Budsturbation if it's me i will be trying the 100% perlite next time for sure about that though do you have yours set up with automatic feed or anything because I started to try but after washing it I didn't think the stuff would supply enough moisture to the plants
Either lol.
Holds moisture quite well, The 3 in that room water once a week with full feed.
Check them daily since the DWC needs to be topped up daily, Only one iv had to give a little bit more water too and just did a quick bottom watering (Fill up a dish with water and let it sit in it for 3 mins) the perlite wicks it up, Thats what makes it ideal for hempty grows.
But they are quite small this grow since the DWC ones took up all the space. When Iv had larger plants in the same pots 6L, It got down to watering every 3-4 days, To which id full feed one time then bottom feed plain water 2nd time. Then flush every 4th time.

This probably be my last time with perlite outside of using it for cloning since ill be going 3x R-DWC with 1 big res and sticking to only 4 weeks veg since 6 weeks is way too much.


What wattage are your LED's that's pretty nice!!!
4X 50W | Cree 3070 (used for veg and first 2 weeks of flower)
1X 257W | Citi 058-1825 (Just switched it on last weekend when flowers start to show)

The 1 citi led is water cooled, Whole rooms will soon be converted to water cooling so in summer I can mount the radiator outside the room.
In the winter leave it inside the room.


Im definitely considering it. I dont think ill be able to fit as many plants into my room, but if they grow bigger in perlite then it probably won't matter. One thing im also concerned about is rootzone temps. it's fairly cold outside, sometimes the temps in my growbox are getting down to 4 degrees. Eventually im not going to be able to keep things above freezing. I feel like soil would be a better insulator than perlite and could help keep the roots at a better temperature during the colder months that I grow.

Then again soil seems to be a better environment for insects to inhabit. However I've seen some people post grow journals using perlite that also had issues with infestation. I've got a few months to think on it but im pretty sure im gonna give it a try.
Not sure about how it would deal with temps, But if its holding less moisture it shouldn't get as cold.
If I was having issues with temps getting down to 4C id be throwing a little oil heater into the room and leave it set on 19C
About the only infestation you should be worrying about is spider mites, Which come from your grow space or already infested clones, Since nothing will be able to live in the perlite and it comes 100% sterile compare to dirt which comes with what ever in it.
 

Budsturbation

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Not sure about how it would deal with temps, But if its holding less moisture it shouldn't get as cold.
If I was having issues with temps getting down to 4C id be throwing a little oil heater into the room and leave it set on 19C
About the only infestation you should be worrying about is spider mites, Which come from your grow space or already infested clones, Since nothing will be able to live in the perlite and it comes 100% sterile compare to dirt which comes with what ever in it.
Unfortunately i cant heat the space at all. I have to work within the limitations im given because i still live with my parents. im lucky enough they let me grow as it is lol.

As far as infestation goes, ive seen people get hit by root aphids pretty badly doing a perlite grow as well. you mention spider mites, I never had a problem with infestation until about two months into my grow. even with my best efforts to keep the shed and the growbox clean, at the end of the day its still a shed. its about as easy for insects to come and go as it is for people.

With that said, ive never had a problem with root aphids, and if perlite can reduce my pest issues down to just having to deal with spider mites thats a victory in my book.

Good point about the perlite not holding water, i hadnt even considered that. ill look into oil heaters too, i said i cant heat earlier and thats not entirely true. what i really cant do is jack up the electric bill any higher. even though what i run shouldnt be costing more than 5 bucks a month.
 

horribleherk

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finally got my led operational (6cob cree3070) doing a single plant in a waterfarm I think you would like dwc I'm at 10 days of 12/12 I've had them under the led since the flip a little over a month ago this plant was a 6 in. clone image.jpeg
 

majins

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Another option since power bill money is tight would be get some 15W heading pads to put under the plants. Have them on there own timer to switch on when lights go out.
Since the smallest oil heater youll find is 100W which would double your power bill.

Not that your grown is using much power any way.
6X 2530 @ .5amp = 108W, PC fans and driver inefficiency probably put that up around 110W.

Dont know where you live but where I am its $0.20 per kw which seems quite high compared to other people on here since some people have said they only pay $0.09 per kw

On veg 18 hours your using 1980w per day (about 40 cents a day) ($12 a month)
On flower 12 hours your using 1320w per day (about 27 cents a day)($8.1 a month)
Which is about $28 over a 3 month grow.
So as long as you get more then 1.3g your spending less then buying some street weed where I live which is $25 for 1g.
 

Budsturbation

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Another option since power bill money is tight would be get some 15W heading pads to put under the plants. Have them on there own timer to switch on when lights go out.
Since the smallest oil heater youll find is 100W which would double your power bill.

Not that your grown is using much power any way.
6X 2530 @ .5amp = 108W, PC fans and driver inefficiency probably put that up around 110W.

Dont know where you live but where I am its $0.20 per kw which seems quite high compared to other people on here since some people have said they only pay $0.09 per kw

On veg 18 hours your using 1980w per day (about 40 cents a day) ($12 a month)
On flower 12 hours your using 1320w per day (about 27 cents a day)($8.1 a month)
Which is about $28 over a 3 month grow.
So as long as you get more then 1.3g your spending less then buying some street weed where I live which is $25 for 1g.
I ran the number while i was building my light. we have a range of prices where i live, its .09 cents a kw in the off peak hours which run from 7pm to 7am and then its .13 cents a kw from 7am to 11am and 5pm to 7pm then from 11am until 5pm its .18 cents a kw

Altogether i run about 115 watts, i dont have the exact number right in front of me but it works out to something like 7.80 a month in veg running 18/6 and then around 4.50 a month in flower. i run my lights in off peak hours for flowering which is also convenient during the colder months because it keeps my growbox warm at night.

Its gonna be about 4 months total by the time all is said and done, roughly 25 bucks. I need to harvest about 4 grams to break even. Thats if you dont count the 300 ive put into the light, or the 200 i spent buying nutes, soil and lumber.

I think i have a heating mat somewhere around here. its been pretty warm lately though. lights on temps are staying around 25 degrees and lights off is more like 17. the forecast is calling for another two weeks of good weather.

That said im gonna be ready with a heating pad just in case
 

Evil-Mobo

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4X 50W | Cree 3070 (used for veg and first 2 weeks of flower)
1X 257W | Citi 058-1825 (Just switched it on last weekend when flowers start to show)

The 1 citi led is water cooled, Whole rooms will soon be converted to water cooling so in summer I can mount the radiator outside the room.
In the winter leave it inside the room.
Can you show us the water cooled setup? This interest me a lot thanks
 

Budsturbation

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Temps are holding steady, its mother nature herself wants to see this grow through to the end. shouldnt be more than a week or two at this point before harvest. very few amber trichs, some of the girls have none. the canadian cheese has the highest percentage of cloudy trichs. surprisingly the sativa looking, lanky ass early vixen is also showing a lot of cloudy trichs. the shittier looking white castle plant has pretty much all white pistils bit mainly cloudy trichs.

Today should be day 72 of flowering i believe. development seems decent considering the temperature issues and the insects. Im definitely noticing the calyxes beginning to swell. Some of them look frosty as hell and the larger nugs look like theyre gonna be pretty dense.

Despite all the problems ive had with this grow, im pretty happy when i open my growbox. I cant know until its all chopped and cured, but i think im gonna pull some quality smoke here. the trich coverage and bud density seems really good compared to previous hps and cfl grows ive done.

Compared to a previous hps grow that also suffered from an infestation, these plants seem better off overall. theres way too many variables for me to say definitively, but I feel like im gonna be able to get better results with leds than i ever did with hid lighting

Pics in order are the
White Voodoo
Early Vixen
White Castle
Early Vixen
Sativa Early Vixen
And then the two canadian cheese

The other white castle is in the back corner, hard to reach in and photograph
 

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majins

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The 6th picture id be harvesting tomorrow by the looks of it.
Rest look like 1 more week.
 
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