DIY Passive cooling with PIN Heatsinks SST120 and SST140

Danielson999

Danielson999

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pop22 said:
desktop user boxes? maybe, real, high performance pc, Customer gaming rigs, servers, high end workstations need high levels of heat dissipation.. Intel still has a number of chips that exceed 100 watts, stock and can double that overclocked. Video cards use heatpipe tech also, and some of the dissipate over 300watts of heat! Overclocking a cpu is just like turning up the amperage on a COB . The legions of hardcore gamers will galdly tell yo your wrong. Some of the current aircooled heatsinks rival water cooling systems for pcs. DIY people into computers are every bit as driven to squeeze out the last bit of performance are any other group. They push pcs beyond their limits to test the boundaries. apparently, you are 10 years behind the times
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Maybe you should spend some time researching the industry. Obviously you have no clue what's going on with it. Heatpipes have been used in computers for decades, watercooling has been around far longer. Nothing has changed. I am that DIY'er and hardcore gamer into computers who's been building them for the past couple decades. I have worked with them extensively and watched the design and performance changes. In general, heat dissipation requirements in servers and personal computers has gone down drastically as cpu's and gpu's become more efficient. Anyway, it's a topic for another forum...but there's plenty of info out there to educate yourself with if you choose to.
 
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pop22

pop22

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Well I tried to pm you to discuss it but..... How ever you can pm me if you'd like to debate this in a friendly manner


Danielson999 said:
Maybe you should spend some time researching the industry. Obviously you have no clue what's going on with it. Heatpipes have been used in computers for decades, watercooling has been around far longer. Nothing has changed. I am that DIY'er and hardcore gamer into computers who's been building them for the past couple decades. I have worked with them extensively and watched the design and performance changes. In general, heat dissipation requirements in servers and personal computers has gone down drastically as cpu's and gpu's become more efficient. Anyway, it's a topic for another forum...but there's plenty of info out there to educate yourself with if you choose to.
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Danielson999

Danielson999

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pop22 said:
Well I tried to pm you to discuss it but..... How ever you can pm me if you'd like to debate this in a friendly manner
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I haven't received any pm's but gladly respond to anyone. As to how it relates to LED lighting though all I was trying to say is that heatpipes and heatsinks have basically remained unchanged for decades. They simply went from using one fan, to two or three fans on gpu's or they use a combination of fans, heatpipes, heatsinks and water cooling. If you look at the highest end video cards today they are cooled exactly the same as they were 20 years ago in theory. There's been a ton of vaporware over the years as companies try to put out new concepts but they quickly disappear. Servers and high end gaming systems are the same today as they were 10 or 20 years ago. They do look more shiny and have even 'cooler' names but the guts underneath all that hype and bs marketing is working on the same principles it always has.
The best advancement in computer cooling is 100% related to making cpu's and gpu's more efficient. I used to have computers that doubled as space heaters because they had an inefficient 300w or 400w cpu but today I'm using a cpu that does 100 times the work using less than 100w.
 
pop22

pop22

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Awesome looking!

I'd like to crank my 1825s up, I'm running 2- HLG-240H-c2100b drivers running at about 1400ma. I need to look around more I guess, I'm personally not thrilled with pin fin heatsinks. Going to try mounting a fan over each of mine.



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pop22

pop22

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yes, but the basics it states are whats important. I'm starting to think that going passive is not necessarily the most "green" way to go after all. Smelting aluminum takes huge amounts of electricity for one. An active cooler may possibly be better in many ways. power consumption is not enough to mention and the total of components carbon footprint is possibly less than that on a passive.


nevergoodenuf said:
If that wasn't a 3 year old article, then it would be a good read. My 600 watt heat sinks don't weigh 75 pounds, but at 14 pounds they are still heavy.
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pop22

pop22

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And if you want to help save energy? Help stamp out Plugins................them nasty little devices....... just think, maybe 10 million of the out there chugging down 5 meagawatts an hour...... fucking things need to be outlawed! Your house stinks???? Clean it!!!! Grrrr......Geez

sorry, rant over lol
 
pop22

pop22

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Its my understanding that copper absorbs heat faster than aluminum, but dissipates it slower. This is why you see copper plates ion aluminum heatsinks for pcs.
Stephenj37826 said:
Copper moves heat much faster than Aluminum. Aluminum transfers it to air better. A hybrid system is best.
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pop22

pop22

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yep heatsink technology is dead................. maybe you need to look beyond the scope of the device and look at its function. Incremental improvements are still happening. No, there's nothing radically new...yet!

http://www.thermacore.com/news/active-heat-sink-technology-in-high-power-electronic-devices.aspx

Carbon nanotube heatsinks are on their way also

Danielson999 said:
Maybe you should spend some time researching the industry. Obviously you have no clue what's going on with it. Heatpipes have been used in computers for decades, watercooling has been around far longer. Nothing has changed. I am that DIY'er and hardcore gamer into computers who's been building them for the past couple decades. I have worked with them extensively and watched the design and performance changes. In general, heat dissipation requirements in servers and personal computers has gone down drastically as cpu's and gpu's become more efficient. Anyway, it's a topic for another forum...but there's plenty of info out there to educate yourself with if you choose to.
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Danielson999

Danielson999

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pop22 said:
yep heatsink technology is dead................. maybe you need to look beyond the scope of the device and look at its function. Incremental improvements are still happening. No, there's nothing radically new...yet!

http://www.thermacore.com/news/active-heat-sink-technology-in-high-power-electronic-devices.aspx

Carbon nanotube heatsinks are on their way also
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Yeah I hear what you're saying. There are always new concepts popping up every year. The good news for DIY'ers and computer users is that the cooling requirements needed for our lights/computers is going down every year. This is part of the reason that cooling technology hasn't changed in decades.
 
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