Going from HPS to LED. Worth it?

[Yodaweed]

That's not right. Hillary is a bitch and so isn't....

Hey I don't support either of them, it's like evil or hitler.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Remember when you grew your first 1/2 oz plant swearing up and down at me telling me I didn't have a clue??? Your EBay special lights were talked about like some sort of prized possession. Since I have read plenty of your disgusting comments all over this forum. I don't care what is wrong with this poor guys plants this is about your childish attitude here.

It wasn't a half ounce, it was 3.8 ounces, but I am not going to fight with you. I don't argue with mentally retarded people, it's cruel.

 

[Big smo]

Calmag is the most over diagnosed and wrongly diagnosed deficiency but I do agree. The rest of the plant looks phenomenal though. Salt buildup or wrong/high ph can affect the uptake.

 

[Big smo]

It wasn't a half ounce, it was 3.8 ounces, but I am not going to fight with you. I don't argue with mentally retarded people, it's cruel.

Exactly 3.8 oz from 6 plants. Don't lie bro. Your first grow with those eBay lights went exactly as I told you. So again shut up and you might learn something.

 

[Yodaweed]

Exactly 3.8 oz from 6 plants. Don't lie bro. Your first grow with those eBay lights went exactly as I told you. So again shut up and you might learn something.

If I only yielded that from an entire grow I would quit growing, it would be cheaper to buy from the dispensary at that point.

 

[cat of curiosity]

Again, for the last time, if you water too frequently in coco, you can overwater in coco because it retains water for so long. Let's ask others.

@RM3
@Gary Goodson
@curious2garden
@srh88
@cat of curiosity
@dannyboy602
@ttystikk

i concur. same thing with rockwool. if you over saturate, you enter counter-productivity mode. roots will drown, plant will stunt and lag, your yield (if you get that far) will be shit. don't over water spongy material, it's the same as overwatering in dirt.

i use gravel, so no moisture is retained in medium. i CAN'T over water, my system relies on supplied aeration and water suspension.

but if i were using spongy stuff, i would allow it to dry before watering again. this is why i dislike rockwool.

and coco coir.

 

[Yodaweed]

i concur. same thing with rockwool. if you over saturate, you enter counter-productivity mode. roots will drown, plant will stunt and lag, your yield (if you get that far) will be shit. don't over water spongy material, it's the same as overwatering in dirt.

i use gravel, so no moisture is retained in medium. i CAN'T

coco isn't dirt...NOOB ALERT NOOB ALERT

 

[cat of curiosity]

coco isn't dirt...NOOB ALERT NOOB ALERT

i remember when you joined bud. just because i couldn't log into my original account doesn't mean i wasn't there.

coco is not dirt, but it can be over saturated. and since i like you and we were friendly a few years ago, i won't noob list you. but you weren't always the knowledgeable guru you are today, don't forget. i haven't

 

[Yodaweed]

i remember when you joined bud. just because i couldn't log into my original account doesn't mean i wasn't there.

coco is not dirt, but it can be over saturated. and since i like you and we were friendly a few years ago, i won't noob list you. but you weren't always the knowledgeable guru you are today, don't forget. i haven't

bro coco isn't dirt and I have used it in my rdwc system that has a drip feeder and got a beast mode plant that yielded 14 ounces....don't see how you can say you can overwater I used to grow coco in a 4x4 flood tray as well and hand water everyday. Coco is a great medium if you treat it like hydroponics, if you treat it like dirt you will get dirt results not hydro results, I started using it like dirt when I figured its a hydroponics substitute was when I really got it dialed in. Now I grow mostly no till organic for my personal use but still do RDWC for yields, I mainly use hydroton cause its the cheapest but yea you can use coco in your hydro bucket with great results.

 

[cat of curiosity]

See how retarded these three are? To orient you, Yodadweeb, Big Smuck and Porky Pigfucker there.

yoda is alright in my book. he has a point with the dwc, but i mentioned the difference in my last post. over saturation and drowning don't occur with aeration. dwc is the best example i can give.

 

[Yodaweed]

if you use coco in dwc, your roots grow into aerated water.

like dwc.

not like soil.

for fucks sake.

I have used it with an automated feeding system like MANY MANY people do, check out this one for a 4x4 grow with a 600w hps you will yield a pound per light for sure when dialed in.

https://www.amazon.com/Tropf-Blumat-Patio-Deck-Starter/dp/B00IQXFBWA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478644229&sr=8-1&keywords=tropf+blumat

 

[Olive Drab Green]

if you use coco in dwc, your roots grow into aerated water.

like dwc.

not like soil.

for fucks sake.

See the post above mine? He can't even understand what you're saying. I got you, though, bro.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

yoda is alright in my book. he has a point with the dwc, but i mentioned the difference in my last post. over saturation and drowning don't occur with aeration. dwc is the best example i can give.

I made the same point about DWC, that the water is oxygenated. We are discussing a handwatered plant in coco. They are saying you can't overwater in DTW coco.

 

[cat of curiosity]

I used to grow coco in a 4x4 flood tray as well and hand water everyday. Coco is a great medium if you treat it like hydroponics, if you treat it like dirt you will get dirt results not hydro results,

i agree, and that's why i said you can over saturate, but if applied correctly, moisture content isn't the issue.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

i agree, and that's why i said you can over saturate, but if applied correctly, moisture content isn't the issue.

Is this plant overwatered?

 

[Yodaweed]

i agree, and that's why i said you can over saturate, but if applied correctly, moisture content isn't the issue.

Yea coco works best when hit a lot with nutrients, it's a medium with nothing in it, the more you put in the more you get out as long as you don't over feed you should be golden, I love coco a lot been thinking about goingback to it for a grow or two, it makes the weight that my no till doesn't but the no till flavor is nuts. It had a lot better flavor than the RDWC but the RDWC has even more weight, like you said suspending in the aerated bucket makes a big difference, some of my plants drink over a gallon of solution a day.

 

[cat of curiosity]

I made the same point about DWC, that the water is oxygenated. We are discussing a handwatered plant in coco. They are saying you can't overwater in DTW coco.

i've seen some shit coco in my day, stuff comes as a dehydrated brick you drop in a 5g bucket of water. in a day, it's a bog/swamp mud consistency.

nasty shit, easy to over water if placed in pots. it's not coarse like coir, it's pulverized.

there are good and bad products, the bad coco is like trying to use 100% peat moss.

 

[Yodaweed]

i've seen some shit coco in my day, stuff comes as a dehydrated brick you drop in a 5g bucket of water. in a day, it's a bog/swamp mud consistency.

nasty shit, easy to over water if placed in pots. it's not coarse like coir, it's pulverized.

there are good and bad products, the bad coco is like trying to use 100% peat moss.

I vouch for gold label coco, top quality and never had the fungus gnat problem those bricks have, if you using a brick you are best to rehydrate with boiling water then inoculate your soil when you mix it.

 

[cat of curiosity]

Is this plant overwatered?

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looks like high humidity and ph imbalance

 

[Olive Drab Green]

@cat of curiosity

Please list off all issues you see with this plant.