Club 315w lec

[DemonTrich]

I'm swapping out 3x600mh and 3x600hps for all cmh 315. And adding a 4th to the flower room (4x315 cmh). Better light than a typical mh or hps, but lower amp draw.

 

[ttystikk]

I'm swapping out 3x600mh and 3x600hps for all cmh 315. And adding a 4th to the flower room (4x315 cmh). Better light than a typical mh or hps, but lower amp draw.

I needed 4 x 315W CMH for 3 x 600W HPS.

 

[GemuGrows]

OK, lets all just forget about that other bulb.....

I figure that I am more likely to move to either LED or to another
315W LEC when I give up my 600W HPS anyway.

LOL

Ceramic HPS is intriguing; your post is the first i've heard of it. I have heard of a 600w Ceramic MH bulb thats coming out though.

I'd be impressed if it would out perform 2x LEC 315's. Not only would I be impressed but I would probably be a convert Two of either of those bulbs could seriously kick ass with air cooled hoods.

With the hype (so far well deserved hype that is) around all things ceramic- its only a matter of time before our grow tents, vent fans, pots, etc... are all Ceramic too!


I used to bloom with like 1350 watts in a 5x5. Now I have 945w in a 4x8. The only problem I've had with LEC lights is that I get light bleaching if they are too close (which is still like 2 feet away). For that reason I would potentially be a little hesitant to do a 600w CMH. Its also why I generally discourage people from getting the 2 in 1 630w fixture- I just think its literally too much light for such a small space. IMO you get better spread with spread out 315's.

I'm sure you could build a superior room with mulitple 630s' but i'm sure you need a shitload of vertical space as well as a huge horizontal space

 

[ttystikk]

Ceramic HPS is intriguing; your post is the first i've heard of it. I have heard of a 600w Ceramic MH bulb thats coming out though.

I'd be impressed if it would out perform 2x LEC 315's. Not only would I be impressed but I would probably be a convert Two of either of those bulbs could seriously kick ass with air cooled hoods.

With the hype (so far well deserved hype that is) around all things ceramic- its only a matter of time before our grow tents, vent fans, pots, etc... are all Ceramic too!

You're still waiting for ceramic grow pots?

Lol

 

[GemuGrows]

You're still waiting for ceramic grow pots?

Lol

LOL,

Nice catch

 

[DemonTrich]

I'll have 2' max in my flower room. Might be able to squeeze another 3" if I'm lucky when I rebuild at the end of the month. I'll finish vegging under the cmh bulbs as soon as I get them in the mail.

I'm hoping my hood will help with the bleaching by spreading the light wider bs centered. Plus adjustable socket helps too.

 

[GemuGrows]

Kinda getting annoyed at this point. My new LEC315 galaxy ballast keeps going into protection mode. I've been trying a bunch of different stuff. Does anybody have any idea what will put a digital ballast into "protection mode?"


I've tried many things- but i'm open to any suggestions.

 

[DemonTrich]

Short?

 

[GemuGrows]

Potentially; i'll look into that.

Pretty much what happens: My bulb will fire up for a short time- but i'm not sure how long. Id say like 2 hours at the longest. Then it will turn off and the ballast will go into protection mode

 

[DemonTrich]

Overheating

Swap a bulb out

 

[GemuGrows]

Overheating

Swap a bulb out

It could be the bulb- I don't think its overheating though. Its not felt any warmer than any other digital ballasts i've used.

If I can't figure it out i'll have to bring it back to the grow shop I suppose and see what they can do about it

 

[Javadog]

Sorry to hear that but thank you for sharing Guru.

Let us know what comes of it....it might be us next. :^/

 

[GemuGrows]

Sorry to hear that but thank you for sharing Guru.

Let us know what comes of it....it might be us next. :^/

Hah will do homie If worst comes to worst one of my buddies has like 5 extra 1000w hps and a few 600w hps setups I can choose from to borrow. I just flipped to bloom so I have like 2 weeks to figure it all out before the light is super important. My 2 LEC315's honestly are probably enough to bloom a 4x8 with- or at the very least to get it going. But I really wanna try this light lmao

 

[Schmarmpit]

Anyone tried these?: https://www.amazon.com/LED2020-Ceramic-Discharge-Halide-31000LM/dp/B01B4CUIL8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478725341&sr=8-2&keywords=led2020+315&th=1

I bought one recently off eBay. I fired it up once on my Phillips 315W ballast and it did fire, surprisingly. The bulb itself just looked super cheap and I was hesitant about the bulb life and other things. I returned it.

 

[ilovetoskiatalta]

So thanks to all the club 315lec.
Preliminary results:
Buds were put into jars yesterday so they will dry a bit more but they have been drying in a shed for a week for a slow cool dry at temps in the 60's day and 50's at night.
332grams of legit main colas(I mainlined 5 plants in 5 gallon buckets) and I had three other plants in 1 gallon buckets all in a 4x2 tent with a 190 cfm hurricane fan and a 4x16 mountain air filter.

I lost one California Orange plant to Hermies(6th one).
And I chopped one California Orange in a 5 gallon and 1 in a 1 gallon at 8 weeks because of security breech.

oh and 71 grams of larf

I will NEVER go back to my 1000hps even though I never had DE1000. My heat was lower and my draw was lower. I estimate 12oz of real bud.

Thanks Again
@GroErr @Bad Karma @BobBitchen

 

[DemonTrich]

Comparing to your previous hid grow, how'd the cmh stack up?

 

[ilovetoskiatalta]

This is a tricky question but I will give some of my results.
My basement had three 1000hps
1 light had a perpetual of "crops" a lot of Cash Crop Ken "Shishkaberry" and "Northern Lights" that were 8 week strains that I flipped. Solid 1.25 lbs a light no questions asked.
The second was my plants, White widow, California Orange California Orange x Northern Lights, Citral and NYC Diesel the stuff I liked to smoke.

The third light had my long flowering sativas...Reeferman Apple Pie, Hazey, and a few other longer flowering plants.

My only observation is the following. In a 4x2 tent with a 315lec the coverage was great because of the reflective walls. In my old basement each 1000hps had an area of 5'x5' but I would rotate plants in the area so that was different.
315lec power consumption was 1/3, heat was a lot less.

I think that this list in a 4'x4' would crush it if you used 3.5' x 3.5'....I did not have the space so I am only speculating.

If I did not lose one plant to hermies and flowered the other Calio-o to 10 weeks I woulld have pulled close to a pound of legit buds with one 315lec. Quality of the buds was good, density good, canopy penetration was not as deep as the 1000hps BUT it is only a 315 w.

Just my .02....and I will weigh them after two weeks of cure, either way I think these lights rock and I am very happy with them.

 

[DemonTrich]

Thanks for the review.

Were you running open or enclosed hoods on the 315?

 

[GroErr]

So thanks to all the club 315lec.
Preliminary results:
Buds were put into jars yesterday so they will dry a bit more but they have been drying in a shed for a week for a slow cool dry at temps in the 60's day and 50's at night.
332grams of legit main colas(I mainlined 5 plants in 5 gallon buckets) and I had three other plants in 1 gallon buckets all in a 4x2 tent with a 190 cfm hurricane fan and a 4x16 mountain air filter.

I lost one California Orange plant to Hermies(6th one).
And I chopped one California Orange in a 5 gallon and 1 in a 1 gallon at 8 weeks because of security breech.

oh and 71 grams of larf

I will NEVER go back to my 1000hps even though I never had DE1000. My heat was lower and my draw was lower. I estimate 12oz of real bud.

Thanks Again
@GroErr @Bad Karma @BobBitchen

Awesome haul, sounds like a keeper. Those 315's are legit producers and great quality. Cheers.

 

[ilovetoskiatalta]

Thanks for the review.

Were you running open or enclosed hoods on the 315?

no open light and i don't think i would run cooling...not needed.