Please help!! AC broke down 1 week before harvest!!

Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Snoopy36 said:
You're right, I am going to be completely honest here what Red has said has made the most sense to me so far. I did count you out once I heard that. But I promise you I will do my research and get to the bottom of it and either keep doing what I'm doing or adjust accordingly. I just think you can't expect someone to completely change up their grow space based upon what you gond works best for you. I 100% trust and believe that you are successful and it works for you. But I'm telling you that what I'm doing works for me and several people I know who have disp as well as grow houses. I will take it into consideration and do some research
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@Snoopy36
Red and I have been friends for some time now. He's very good at what he does. I would never say anything that didn't concur with him. But what I'm saying about photoinhibition and PPFD (The density of the photons coming from your light that fall within the PAR range, which aside from UV and IR is all that's ever really needed by the plants) is very real.

https://www.tastyled.com/

"The graph below describes the relationship between light intensity and plant growth. As you can see the lower intensities produce less growth but are also more efficient. A PPFD of 400 achieves over 50% growth potential while a PPFD of 800 improves the growth to about 85% but not doubling it. As the light intensity approaches 1500 the amount of additional growth slows and light intensities above 1500 will begin to harm a plant. A common balance between performance and efficiency is in the 600-900 PPFD range."

PPFD vs. Photosynthesis
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PAR value = PPFD
 
Snoopy36

Snoopy36

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Olive Drab Green said:
@Snoopy36
Red and I have been friends for some time now. He's very good at what he does. I would never say anything that didn't concur with him. But what I'm saying about photoinhibition and PPFD (The density of the photons coming from your light that fall within the PAR range, which aside from UV and IR is all that's ever really needed by the plants) is very real.

https://www.tastyled.com/

"The graph below describes the relationship between light intensity and plant growth. As you can see the lower intensities produce less growth but are also more efficient. A PPFD of 400 achieves over 50% growth potential while a PPFD of 800 improves the growth to about 85% but not doubling it. As the light intensity approaches 1500 the amount of additional growth slows and light intensities above 1500 will begin to harm a plant. A common balance between performance and efficiency is in the 600-900 PPFD range."

PPFD vs. Photosynthesis
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PAR value = PPFD
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Ahh okay. Why don't you have service? Lol
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Snoopy36 said:
Ahh okay. Why don't you have service? Lol
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That screenshot was taken with an older phone. A long, dramatic story about family issues and how you can't even trust your mother to be grateful for letting her use your military discount for a cell phone bill before she robs you of about $1000 worth of two phones that you paid for with your own money. I tried to be nice. To hell with her spiteful, opiate-addicted self.
 
Snoopy36

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Olive Drab Green said:
That screenshot was taken with an older phone. A long, dramatic story about family issues and how you can't even trust your mother to be grateful for letting them use your military discount for a cell phone bill before she robs you of about $1000 worth of a phone that you paid for with your own money. I tried to be nice. To hell with her spiteful, opiate-addicted self.
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Aww well now I feel bad for you! I'm sorry she was a crazy witch. Really though thanks for your help. I only hope to learn half the stuff you guys are throwing at me sooon enough.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Snoopy36 said:
Aww well now I feel bad for you! I'm sorry she was a crazy witch. Really though thanks for your help. I only hope to learn half the stuff you guys are throwing at me sooon enough.
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I was more concerned that she called me a baby killer than I was about the petty cell phone shit. Takes focused belligerence and lack of a moral compass to call someone like me or my comrades that insult. Her only intent was to go for the jugular, figuratively speaking.

You seem pretty spry. You'll probably pick it up fast.
 
Snoopy36

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HydroRed said:
@Snoopy36 Got any bud shots of the GG#4?
@Olive Drab Green its all good brother. We know you aint here trying to cause waves. Thats what TNT is for :bigjoint:
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I just took these. I took some with flash and some without. They're looking okay considering what happened a couple days ago. I hope they just don't get worse.
 

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Olive Drab Green said:
I was more concerned that she called me a baby killer than I was about the petty cell phone shit. Takes focused belligerence and lack of a moral compass to call someone like me or my comrades that insult. Her only intent was to go for the jugular, figuratively speaking.

You seem pretty spry. You'll probably pick it up fast.
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I hope so!
 
Olive Drab Green

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Snoopy36 said:
I just took these. I took some with flash and some without. They're looking okay considering what happened a couple days ago. I hope they just don't get worse.
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Well, that explains your plant size. You're flowering. I'm still vegging. Plants stretch a lot during flowering, because they stretch in attempt to get higher than whatever's in the way of their light, and they especially stretch during the dark period. Vegging 20/4 or 19/5 like I do, with my lights only about 12-14" from my plants, my plant will, of course, be short with tight internodal spacing. :-P
 
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Olive Drab Green said:
Well, that explains your plant size. You're flowering. I'm still vegging. Plants stretch a lot during flowering, because they stretch in attempt to get higher than whatever's in the way of their light, and they especially stretch during the dark period. Vegging 20/4 or 19/5 like I do, with my lights only about 12-14" from my plants, my plant will, of course, be short with tight internodal spacing. :-P
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The pic I sent you earlier was when they were in veg though. Both pics were in veg. The one from aug and from sept. I vegged them for 4 months. Now I'm like week 8 flower. Also I vegged in 24 hour light. My grow bible recommended that and I think I like the results so far, I read that 18/6 is moreso when you want to just cut costs but 24/0 is a constant source of light so they're constantly growing. I know there are lots of opinions on 24/0 or 18/6. I tried both and like 24/0 so far
 
Budley Doright

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Snoopy36 said:
You're right, I am going to be completely honest here what Red has said has made the most sense to me so far. I did count you out once I heard that. But I promise you I will do my research and get to the bottom of it and either keep doing what I'm doing or adjust accordingly. I just think you can't expect someone to completely change up their grow space based upon what you found works best for you. I 100% trust and believe that you are successful and it works for you. But I'm telling you that what I'm doing works for me and several people I know who have disp as well as grow houses. I will take it into consideration and do some research
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And you'd think that would be the end .....nope lol.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Snoopy36 said:
The pic I sent you earlier was when they were in veg though. Both pics were in veg. The one from aug and from sept. I vegged them for 4 months. Now I'm like week 8 flower. Also I vegged in 24 hour light. My grow bible recommended that and I think I like the results so far, I read that 18/6 is moreso when you want to just cut costs but 24/0 is a constant source of light so they're constantly growing. I know there are lots of opinions on 24/0 or 18/6. I tried both and like 24/0 so far
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In any case, it's more from the training and the plant needing to recover from the frequent and numerous toppings, paired with light intensity keeping her small.

I started with 24/0. I like the progression I'm getting with the short dark period now, though. With 24/0, it grew so slowly, she'd take a while to reach a point I could actually train her at. If you plan to train, top, etc. I'd recommend giving her a dark period.

Also! The plant roots better and recovers better in the dark, in case you didn't know, so just something to keep in mind for any future experiments in your runs. Cloning, you should give your clones a dark period, and don't give them full-on light. Try to keep then in a spot where they get some light, like side lighting, but it won't root fast or properly in full light.
 
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