Please help!! AC broke down 1 week before harvest!!

Olive Drab Green

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Yeah you aint lyin about that. But I'm back on track and looking better than the day before each day. I have to hope it doesn't happen again and it was just a fluke. If it does then I must have some serious issues. It's hard to let go of something you spent so much money in. Could have bought another car in place of that unit! That's why it's hard to change anything. This works right now. I don't want to kill my crop. If I made it to 8 week flower than I must be doing something right... right?
It's not that you're doing anything wrong necessarily. It's just similar to taking the long, hard way to a nearby destination. Like, it's more about people wanting to help with tightening the grow up, rather than shutting it down like a bunch of rancid assholes. Like I said, people just don't want to see you pay for excess and waste, y'know? We want to help you utilize everything and waste nothing you don't need to waste.
 

Odin*

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Well ok then lol. As for googling, that's for people that need to... Also being able to keep a room at a constant 70 is not fighting lights IMO.


I was not suggesting that you need to, I was referencing "The Googler" from the other thread (thus "RIU inside joke" comment). I can tell that you know a thing or two about a thing or two. :bigjoint:

I'm not so convinced that the AC is maintaining a constant 70. A pictures worth a thousand words, she's posted quite a few, and the plants are telling me a different story. Didn't want to bring that up as it sounds like I'm throwing a jab, not the case, but it is what I see.


But what do I know, I'm a "newb". :blsmoke:


Edit: Stupid auto correct had my post all fuckin' stupid.
 
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Snoopy36

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It's not that you're doing anything wrong necessarily. It's just similar to taking the long, hard way to a nearby destination. Like, it's more about people wanting to help with tightening the grow up, rather than shutting it down like a bunch of rancid assholes. Like I said, people just don't want to see you pay for excess and waste, y'know? We want to help you utilize everything and waste nothing you don't need to waste.
I hear ya
 

Snoopy36

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I was not suggesting that you need to, I was referencing "The Googler" from the other thread (thus "RIU inside joke" comment). I can tell that you know a thing or two about a thing or two. :bigjoint:

I'm not so convinced that the AC is maintaining a constant 70. A pictures worth a thousand words, she's posted quite a few, and the plants are telling me a different story. Didn't want to bring that up as it sounds like I'm throwing a jab, not the case, but it is what I see.


But what do I know, I'm a "newb". :blsmoke:


Edit: Stupid auto correct had my post all fuckin' stupid.
Lol i posted pics of the thermostat. I'll take one for you now.
 

Snoopy36

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I was not suggesting that you need to, I was referencing "The Googler" from the other thread (thus "RIU inside joke" comment). I can tell that you know a thing or two about a thing or two. :bigjoint:

I'm not so convinced that the AC is maintaining a constant 70. A pictures worth a thousand words, she's posted quite a few, and the plants are telling me a different story. Didn't want to bring that up as it sounds like I'm throwing a jab, not the case, but it is what I see.


But what do I know, I'm a "newb". :blsmoke:


Edit: Stupid auto correct had my post all fuckin' stupid.
There ya go. Zone 1 and zone 2. One's at 69 the other 67.
 

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Odin*

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Lol i posted pics of the thermostat. I'll take one for you now.
I saw that pic. Doesn't really mean much. Could be inaccurate, could be within cool zone/away from heat zone(s), could be a million other things. I'm not trying to knock you or your grow, but the number of leaves and their proximity to the top of your buds, as well as it's deeper color, all, to me, suggest that the temps are excessive. I'm familiar with both Glue and Animal Cookies. The "newb" comment was a joke, I'm damn near 20 years, but that doesn't really say much without also mentioning that my numbers are in the hundreds of thousands, might have broke a million plants finished, maybe even 2 (never really sat down and tallied it up). Anyhow, some close up pics of the Animal Cookies buds would also be helpful.


Honestly, you're new, a bit invested, and a bit in trouble, I feel inclined to help.
 

Snoopy36

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I saw that pic. Doesn't really mean much. Could be inaccurate, could be within cool zone/away from heat zone(s), could be a million other things. I'm not trying to knock you or your grow, but the number of leaves and their proximity to the top of your buds, as well as it's deeper color, all, to me, suggest that the temps are excessive. I'm familiar with both Glue and Animal Cookies. The "newb" comment was a joke, I'm damn near 20 years, but that doesn't really say much without also mentioning that my numbers are in the hundreds of thousands, might have broke a million plants finished, maybe even 2 (never really sat down and tallied it up). Anyhow, some close up pics of the Animal Cookies buds would also be helpful.


Honestly, you're new, a bit invested, and a bit in trouble, I feel inclined to help.
Okay, but unfortunately you can't help without being here and seeing everything irl. You can only give me your opinion based on photos. I totally appreciate your opinion which is exactly why I initially asked if you see anything wrong please let me know! Buy I don't even know what your argument is? Lol you think it's hotter in my rooms? Okay and then what?
 

Budley Doright

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I was not suggesting that you need to, I was referencing "The Googler" from the other thread (thus "RIU inside joke" comment). I can tell that you know a thing or two about a thing or two. :bigjoint:

I'm not so convinced that the AC is maintaining a constant 70. A pictures worth a thousand words, she's posted quite a few, and the plants are telling me a different story. Didn't want to bring that up as it sounds like I'm throwing a jab, not the case, but it is what I see.


But what do I know, I'm a "newb". :blsmoke:


Edit: Stupid auto correct had my post all fuckin' stupid.
It's all good Odin, I know shit about the growing part so I over compensate lol.
 

Odin*

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Okay and then what?
Well, I haven't suggested total renovation, but I did state that either a larger AC (i.e.; 5 ton), or replacing the hoods for sealed/ducted w/ample cfpm pushing through to remove the heat, rather than fight against it. I would go with sealed ducted hoods. You're also building heat in that subroom containing the ballasts, which, I'm assuming, is adjacent to the grow(s). You could place a can filter with a blower in that room (as long as there is proper ventilation to avoid negative pressure) and have that feed through the sealed hoods, with at least one additional blower in the chain, preferably at the end ("push" tends to cause leakage into the room, "pull" tends to cause draw from the room, the two opposing balance out, to a degree, but better than "either or").

Any pics of the Animal?
 

Snoopy36

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Well, I haven't suggested total renovation, but I did state that either a larger AC (i.e.; 5 ton), or replacing the hoods for sealed/ducted w/ample cfpm pushing through to remove the heat, rather than fight against it. I would go with sealed ducted hoods. You're also building heat in that subroom containing the ballasts, which, I'm assuming, is adjacent to the grow(s). You could place a can filter with a blower in that room (as long as there is proper ventilation to avoid negative pressure) and have that feed through the sealed hoods, with at least one additional blower in the chain, preferably at the end ("push" tends to cause leakage into the room, "pull" tends to cause draw from the room, the two opposing balance out, to a degree, but better than "either or").

Any pics of the Animal?
Oops, didn't reply just posted a new post. See above.
 

Budley Doright

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In any case, it's more from the training and the plant needing to recover from the frequent and numerous toppings, paired with light intensity keeping her small.

I started with 24/0. I like the progression I'm getting with the short dark period now, though. With 24/0, it grew so slowly, she'd take a while to reach a point I could actually train her at. If you plan to train, top, etc. I'd recommend giving her a dark period.

Also! The plant roots better and recovers better in the dark, in case you didn't know, so just something to keep in mind for any future experiments in your runs. Cloning, you should give your clones a dark period, and don't give them full-on light. Try to keep then in a spot where they get some light, like side lighting, but it won't root fast or properly in full light.
Never give my clones a dark period and they root just great but yes it's defused light. Have you actually tried dark versus not with cloning? What was the time difference in your experience? I get roots in 5-6 days under 24 hour light but my plants are under 24 before cuttings are taken. You actually think the plants grow slower under 24 light?
 

Odin*

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Damn, hate to be the "downer" in this thread, but the "Animal" doesn't look Animal at all. Where did you source this cut?

"Animal Cookies" is GSCxFire OG, both have very distinguishable/easily recognizable traits, none present in the pic. Also looks to be heat stressed. The stress depicted is not caused by brief exposure to temps (the hours with the AC down), but prolonged periods of excessive heat. Leafy, airy, hairy. Heat for sure.

Check out some of my pics of Animal Cookies crosses for a good idea of what they should look like.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Never give my clones a dark period and they root just great but yes it's defused light. Have you actually tried dark versus not with cloning? What was the time difference in your experience? I get roots in 5-6 days under 24 hour light but my plants are under 24 before cuttings are taken. You actually think the plants grow slower under 24 light?
From personal experience, I have found that clones and all cannabis plants root better in the dark. Pretty sure it's mostly common knowledge? I believe the rooting hormone is put to work more during the dark period.

Running 24/0, it took, like.. 21-23 days to root in a tiny pot. Giving it 18/6, it took, like.. 12 days. Another one, like, 2 weeks under 18/6.

This is obviously far from conclusive, but this is what I've found. I am pretty positive most people agree that cannabis does a good deal of its rooting at night.
 

Budley Doright

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Ah, that I can understand a bit better. That shit is going to take over the room. You should at least consider running less lights or switching to 600s for early to mid veg, if only to save cost. It'll be small enough in the first two months of veg that 600w should easily provide enough light for each plant. I just really hate to see you pay as much as you are, sorry if it seems I'm pushing.
It does and thats never stopped you lol.
 

Budley Doright

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From personal experience, I have found that clones and all cannabis plants root better in the dark. Pretty sure it's mostly common knowledge? I believe the rooting hormone is put to work more during the dark period.

Running 24/0, it took, like.. 21-23 days to root in a tiny pot. Giving it 18/6, it took, like.. 12 days. Another one, like, 2 weeks under 18/6.

This is obviously far from conclusive, but this is what I've found. I am pretty positive most people agree that cannabis does a good deal of its rooting at night.
Think you've been googling to much again and 21 days .....um don't think it was the light, I've never given clones a dark period. IMG_0624.JPGFeb 4,
IMG_0956.JPG Feb 19, by golly roots do grow in the light lol. Sorry Snoop, just had to post a pic :(.
Edit: sorry that first one was the 2nd not the 4th.
 
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