Settle For Nothing

chuckbane

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like what exactly is the mentality of cutting spending on schools, one of the most important things affecting the future of a country?

did someone say

"you know, i think the youth now are smart enough,, we dont need to make them smarter, that wouldnt be good."

i simply cant seem to wrap my mind around the fact,, can one of you "pro-government" people explain this to me?
 

TheBrutalTruth

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Oh, wow, such intelligent debate. Bush is an idiot, ironically he's probably smarter than you Chuck.

As far as attacking me for "grouping" Conservative and Liberal, that's like saying that I must be a staunch Conservative, because I think taxes suck, and there is no middle ground.

As far as education. Why shouldn't people be allowed to use their tax dollars to choose where their child attends school. If people want to send their children to public school then that is their business. If they want to shell out $3K to send their child to a catholic school or christian school that should also be their business. The government's obligation should be to make sure that the money to allow the parents to have their children educated is there.

The State should not dictate where children attend school, it should be a choice of the parents, or the student.

Besides, despite throwing more and more and even more money at the public education system it has still failed to generate any results. The Centralized Education System is a failure.
 

ccodiane

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like what exactly is the mentality of cutting spending on schools, one of the most important things affecting the future of a country?

did someone say

"you know, i think the youth now are smart enough,, we dont need to make them smarter, that wouldnt be good."

i simply cant seem to wrap my mind around the fact,, can one of you "pro-government" people explain this to me?
vi? ccodiane? dark ak? ravioli?

anyone?


"...what really happened in the sixties was that this country took just the first step toward admitting that it had been wrong on race, and creativity burst out in all directions..."

too bad people arent informed enough anymore to know when to admit they are wrong.

The U.S. cut government spending on schools by billions of dollars...

why?

to keep the youth dumb

and sadly, its working
LOOK AT IT GROW! (DOE)

[In thousands of current dollars]

1970- 4,625,224

2006- 93,571,541

Federal on-budget funds for education, by agency: Selected fiscal years, 1970 through 2006
 

chuckbane

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How, wow, such intelligent debate. Bush is an idiot, ironically he's probably smarter than you Chuck.
you saying that shows how smart you are.. I now live in a land where [most] people speak compently and i guess i would have never noticed how dumb bush sounds living in the south. It's too bad you are not a part of the other america. It needs more members you know.

As far as attacking me for "grouping" Conservative and Liberal, that's like saying that I must be a staunch Conservative, because I think taxes suck, and there is no middle ground.
come again? haha i dont think i am reading that right or something. it just doesnt make sense but i will try.

yes, conservatives lower tax, but when you lower tax you lower the amount of available services to your citizens. Thats just how it work, if there is less money there is less for the country. Same deal with privitization, the money you used to give your country for services is now being spent on things that ARENT for you.

Conservatives will lower taxes then boast for privitization of schools, highways, library's blah blah blah because they will say that there is no money for it. And no one will want their taxes raised back up so they will SETTLE FOR NOTHING.

And what this means is the poor will get a lesser quality of basic personal needs and this is killing equality. all humans are not equal, but they deserve to be treated that way (until they have voided the rights of others). Poor, rich, black, white, man woman... it doesnt matter...

you conservatives cant hate racial minorities so you now you opress the poor.

As far as education. Why shouldn't people be allowed to use their tax dollars to choose where their child attends school. If people want to send their children to public school then that is their business. If they want to shell out $3K to send their child to a catholic school or christian school that should also be their business. The government's obligation should be to make sure that the money to allow the parents to have their children educated is there.
EQUALITY. EQUAL QUALITY FOR ALL
EQUALITY. EQUALITY. EQUALITY.

The Centralized Education System is a failure.
then be a man and tell your government to do something about it instead of taking it in the ass. you pay them dont you? i know i do
 

ccodiane

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LOOK AT IT GROW! (DOE)

[In thousands of current dollars]

1970- 4,625,224

2006- 93,571,541

Federal on-budget funds for education, by agency: Selected fiscal years, 1970 through 2006
why dont you look up 2006-2007... i dont care about the past anymore.

and how much has the population grown in the past 36 years?

did you look that up or were you a typical POS and shot your mouth up before looking at ALL the facts

2006- 93,571,541..................:clap:
 

ccodiane

New Member
Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
 

chuckbane

New Member
Cutting taxes is going to reduce services...

Yeah, that's the idea, not wasting my money solving every one else's problems.
every ones,, you mean poor people... because those are the people who lose out when you cut services..

there is way too much money going to the unnecessary war. money that could be spent helping people instead of killing them
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Settled for less of what?

And lost all of my standards? What exactly are you referring to when you say that I have lost all of my standards?
 

chuckbane

New Member
right, you never had those standards.. you were born into a society without standards... you see i still remember when people thought for themselves.. made their own decisions.... good times.. old times... oh well,,, there will be a second coming of TRUTH
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Are you saying that I don't think for myself? You are truly an insulting bastard at times you know that.

And I have made my own decisions, and have formed my own thoughts.

Though you didn't exactly answer my question regarding what standards you were referring to.
 

chuckbane

New Member
Are you saying that I don't think for myself?
BINGO!

Though you didn't exactly answer my question regarding what standards you were referring to.
do i need to spell it out for you?

you dont even know what im talking about and thats what i mean,, you dont have standards because you were born into a society without standards and you have yet to learn to think for yourself to create your own standards.

you take what you are given and believe what you are told,,, and this is no surprise by the way you talk
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Chuck, I'm not asking you for more arguments, I'm asking for you to clarify what you mean.

What standards do you think I ought to have?

That I should smile happily when our corrupt, bloated, inefficient government steals money that I bust my ass for and spends most of it on itself.

That I should be happy that I am being forced to pay for a lie that my government requires I believe in, social security. That I be happy about the fact that I can't afford health care for myself because of the same taxes?

God help me Chuck, I am sick of trying to have any kind of conversation with you, because you are worse than Obama when it comes to actually speaking about what you believe in. So far the only thing that I have seen you say is that the fact that we have a soul is what sets us above the animals.

You accuse me of not having standards, but refuse to espouse on your definition of "standards".
 

chuckbane

New Member
Chuck, I'm not asking you for more arguments, I'm asking for you to clarify what you mean.
you are the one who keeps posting on all my threads,, im not creeping you remember.

What standards do you think I ought to have?
why are you asking me?
because you NEED someone to tell you. because you cant think for yourself like i said.

im not going to tell you what standards to have or how to live your life, you can do that for yourself. and the choices you make YOURSELF reflect upon your character, personality and life experience.

That I should smile happily when our corrupt, bloated, inefficient government steals money that I bust my ass for and spends most of it on itself.

That I should be happy that I am being forced to pay for a lie that my government requires I believe in, social security. That I be happy about the fact that I can't afford health care for myself because of the same taxes?
HEY thats the topic of the thread!! did you actually finally go back and read the whole thing?!?! you would be the first!

God help me Chuck, I am sick of trying to have any kind of conversation with you, because you are worse than Obama when it comes to actually speaking about what you believe in.
you spoke to Obama? did you get his sig or did you spit on his face?
either way i could care less,, he is just as fucked as the rest of them.

So far the only thing that I have seen you say is that the fact that we have a soul is what sets us above the animals.
Oh, I guess you didnt read the thread.. oh well, someone might

You accuse me of not having standards, but refuse to espouse on your definition of "standards".
I dont think i even need to touch this one,, it speaks for itself
 
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