When Does Life Begin ...
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HotNSexyMILF
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Vi, please you are breaking my heart here...
TheBrutalTruth
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I like my lunch in my stomach, but I do have to question defining life as when the cord is cut, or the brain is born.
Are you denying that bacteria are alive?
What about fungi?
Viruses?
plants?
Are you denying that bacteria are alive?
What about fungi?
Viruses?
plants?
chuckbane
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Geeze ... Just this very minute I just took you off of ignore hoping to see some rational thought emanating from your brain.
Back on ignore.
Vi
everyone will have a different opinion on a question like this,, it all depends on how you define life
and i define it as being a sole entity, and when you are connected to another being via a cord that supplies life sustaining substances you are not a sole entity
and i think obama is fucked just like the rest of them
chuckbane
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we have something all those things you listed dont. A "soul". we have the capability of knowing what is right or wrong, we have the capability of feeling emotions like love, hate, lust, greed, envy... and thats what seperates us from the animals. and fungi as you put.
and quite honestly i would rather have a dead baby than a child with a terrible life.
I will never have children in my life because I never want a child to go through what i had to go through and be brought up in a world like this and if i had to i would press the red button.
chuckbane
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just like people who are terminal and have a tube conected to them to sustain life should be able to die. it is their right as it is a mothers right to end the life before the cord is cut
TheBrutalTruth
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we have something all those things you listed dont. A "soul". we have the capability of knowing what is right or wrong, we have the capability of feeling emotions like love, hate, lust, greed, envy... and thats what seperates us from the animals. and fungi as you put.
and quite honestly i would rather have a dead baby than a child with a terrible life.
I will never have children in my life because I never want a child to go through what i had to go through and be brought up in a world like this and if i had to i would press the red button.
I'm not going to argue with you that it is better for the child to be aborted than to die of neglect or abuse. Or to be subject to watching his mother get the crap beat out of her by whoever is dating her at the time.
I personally don't think it is something that the federal government should be involved in legislating though. It should be up to individuals to decide for themselves.
As far as us being above animals because we have soul, Yeah, I can agree with that. Though I'd rather say we are above animals because we are individuals and we have the ability to reason. I think therefor I am.
chuckbane
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stoney had a reply somehwhere on here that i liked.
it went someting like, "I wish i was aborted"
why should anyone ever feel that way?
because if a mother doesnt want a child she has growing in her tummy then what makes you think she is going to treat it right and nouriture it properly?
that baby will end up having a shittly life from being nelected and another life will be lost into drug/alcohol abuse, suicide, depression...
why do we need that?
it went someting like, "I wish i was aborted"
why should anyone ever feel that way?
because if a mother doesnt want a child she has growing in her tummy then what makes you think she is going to treat it right and nouriture it properly?
that baby will end up having a shittly life from being nelected and another life will be lost into drug/alcohol abuse, suicide, depression...
why do we need that?
ccodiane
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TodayIsAGreenday
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life begins as soon as i blow my load
chuckbane
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ccodiane
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TodayIsAGreenday
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AboveYourInfluence
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Those pics were pretty sexy Vi
Most (all legal) abortions are preformed before the little kids are that far along tho!
I think regardless of how far along in the pregnancy you abort, it is killing something, I just don't think its a big deal.
I would support a crack heads right to humanely euthanize her 5 year old if she could not take care of it.
Human life is not special, anymore so than the ant you stepped on or the cow you ate.
People are programmed through evolution to be emotionally attached and value a human life over any other creature, it was once necessary to our survival as a species, but its no different.
I am pro human death, because I'm anti human suffering. I fully expect everyone to think I'm crazy, I just wanted to share my opinion.
Most (all legal) abortions are preformed before the little kids are that far along tho!
I think regardless of how far along in the pregnancy you abort, it is killing something, I just don't think its a big deal.
I would support a crack heads right to humanely euthanize her 5 year old if she could not take care of it.
Human life is not special, anymore so than the ant you stepped on or the cow you ate.
People are programmed through evolution to be emotionally attached and value a human life over any other creature, it was once necessary to our survival as a species, but its no different.
I am pro human death, because I'm anti human suffering. I fully expect everyone to think I'm crazy, I just wanted to share my opinion.
chuckbane
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i can definitley agree on that... but instead of "euthanizing a 5 year old" you could just put it in protective care.. a foster family..
but the current government doesnt put enough money into these programs so all these problems arise. most foster children i knew who grew up in "homes" didnt turn out so well. because even there they are neglected and feel abandoned and unloved.
not feeling loved when in developing years can really fuck the human mind up. i will tell you that 4 sure
NewGrowth
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I just can't condone late term abortion for some reason, it just seems sick to me (why wait 7-8 months?). I condone abortion, there are many reasons a child should not be brought into this world and I believe it is up to the mother to decide. I think abortion is a matter best left up to the individual. Just my two cents
chuckbane
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a valuable post but there is just one problem. you say why wait 7-8 months? so what if the mother decides she does not want the baby after 8 months? shes not allowed to abort and that child grows up unwanted?
and what defining moment happens when the woman should no longer be able to abort?
my opinion is when the umbilical cord is cut. this is when the being is sustaining its own life with its own body.
if you are going to use a numerical value like "no abortions after 6 months" you have to have a reason why, otherwise your value means nothing. Not to mention it would be impossible to have even a majority agree on one numerical value of months into pregnancy.
a defining moment needs to happen where you say "NOW this is a life. NOW this being is a sole-entity, NOW this being deserves its own set of rights...
TodayIsAGreenday
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a baby in the womb is a parasite and should be viewed as such
